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Student loan forgiveness: Biden promise to forgive $10,000 in debt remains unfulfilled

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  • Member Posts: 37,781
    I will bill them for $100k I paid cash for for my kids.
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,806 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    Decided vote buying by child tax credit was better than vote buying a bunch of SJW baristas that are voting Dem anyway.

    Suburban Karens would not be happy with student loan bailouts.
  • Member Posts: 15,072
    Biden is getting Trillions to dole out. How hard would it be for him to “forgive” some paltry amount say $2-5 grand across the board and fly the “Mission Accomplished” banner one more time?
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,806 Founders Club
    It wouldn’t be hard. It’s not as popular as Kobe wants you to think it is, or it would have happened. Same with green new deal, if it was why it was cracked up to be, there’d be a written bill. Both are better as theoretical talking points for crazy blue districts.
  • Member Posts: 14,560

    I will bill them for $100k I paid cash for for my kids.

    You’re coming from a place of privilege
  • Member Posts: 15,329

    I will bill them for $100k I paid cash for for my kids.

    I thought at least one had a scholly?
  • Member Posts: 27,666
    5k and not a dime more. For reasons
  • Member Posts: 37,781
    HuskyJW said:

    I thought at least one had a scholly?
    Partial.
  • Member Posts: 48,163 Standard Supporter
    If this gets the fucking millennials to STFU, $10K is worth it. Pay it and move on.

    Same with goddamned reparations bullshit. Pay $10K and then STFU, too.

    Mostly just STFU.

  • Member Posts: 33,183

    They won’t STFU though. Just like slavery reparations won’t end any of the racism industrial complex.
    How can you expect them to be silent when gays and blacks don’t have equal rights in this country?
  • Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,641 Founders Club
    edited July 2021

    Mixed feelings on student loan forgiveness. On one hand, loans should be repaid. Nobody made them take the student loan. On the other hand, academia has been a huge racket for awhile.

    An 18 year old with no credit can’t get a $10,000 loan to open a business, but they will give the same 18 year old $100,000 to attend college.

    The key question is why is it that student loans are the only loans of which you can't default via bankruptcy? Why?
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,806 Founders Club

    The key question is why is it that student loans are the only loans of which you can't default via bankruptcy? Why?
    Joe knows why.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/02/joe-biden-student-loan-debt-2005-act-2020
  • Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,339 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    Joe knows why.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/02/joe-biden-student-loan-debt-2005-act-2020
    In December of 2019 the media still dared to criticize Joe
  • Member Posts: 48,163 Standard Supporter

    The key question is why is it that student loans are the only loans of which you can't default via bankruptcy? Why?
    Because the fucktardery of incurring six figure debt for a sociology degree is beyond forgiveness.
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,347 Founders Club

    The key question is why is it that student loans are the only loans of which you can't default via bankruptcy? Why?
    Because I would have coasted through a JD / MBA and wiped the slate clean on day 1. And I’m not the only one. The math isn’t hard
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,239 Founders Club
    Sources said:

    Because I would have coasted through a JD / MBA and wiped the slate clean on day 1. And I’m not the only one. The math isn’t hard
    Then lenders wouldn't lend for bullshit. Seems like a good solution.
  • Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,641 Founders Club

    In December of 2019 the media still dared to criticize Joe
    That's a British newspaper
  • Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,339 Founders Club
    Yep but ABC News ran an article on his crime family

    The media wanted anyone but Joe until they were told otherwise
  • Member Posts: 37,960 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2021
    If you borrow money you pay it back! I know that's a difficult concept for some.
  • Member Posts: 30,159
    edited July 2021
    Sledog said:

    If you borrow money you pay it back! I know that's a difficult concept for some.

    There is some nuance to it. An 18 year old can’t get a job that pays enough to live independently, they can’t get a loan to start a business, so taking the loan and going to college seems like a pretty good option until you’re paying off debt well into your 40’s. Not to mention the price of attending college has skyrocketed.

    I get your point, but don’t agree that it’s as simple as that. I doubt many of the older folks here had to deal with this kind of bullshit. The banking institutions and universities engaged in some unethical practices.

    I think some foregiveness is warranted. It’s not really fair to saddle a young adult into debt, something that was basically pushed onto them in many ways, and something that isn’t common knowledge on how to deal with. What the fair way to settle this is, I don’t know.
  • Member Posts: 27,666
    edited July 2021

    There is some nuance to it. An 18 year old can’t get a job that pays enough to live independently, they can’t get a loan to start a business, so taking the loan and going to college seems like a pretty good option until you’re paying off debt well into your 40’s. Not to mention the price of attending college has skyrocketed.

    I get your point, but don’t agree that it’s as simple as that. I doubt many of the older folks here had to deal with this kind of bullshit. The banking institutions and universities engaged in some unethical practices.

    I think some foregiveness is warranted. It’s not really fair to saddle a young adult into debt, something that was basically pushed onto them in many ways, and something that isn’t common knowledge on how to deal with. What the fair way to settle this is, I don’t know.
    The issue is that now you have to have a college degree to get a shitty low level office job which in no way requires one.

    Also making it dischargeable in bankruptcy pretty much ends gender studies and other bullshit. No ones gonna finance that.

    Honestly I'd like to get the upcoming academies that the tech companies will put on going. Because once you can do those it's gonna be pretty compelling
  • Member Posts: 3,042
    edited July 2021
    Fair?

    As an “older” poster, I would not have considered (for a second) borrowing the kind of money many kids have done to get the quality of education they are getting.

    For certain majors and certain schools, I’d have to think long and hard about it.

    For any type of liberal arts indoctrination, Fuck no!

    I didn’t have parents catering to my whims or paying my way.

    ROI?


  • Member Posts: 3,042

    There is some nuance to it. An 18 year old can’t get a job that pays enough to live independently, they can’t get a loan to start a business, so taking the loan and going to college seems like a pretty good option until you’re paying off debt well into your 40’s. Not to mention the price of attending college has skyrocketed.

    I get your point, but don’t agree that it’s as simple as that. I doubt many of the older folks here had to deal with this kind of bullshit. The banking institutions and universities engaged in some unethical practices.

    I think some foregiveness is warranted. It’s not really fair to saddle a young adult into debt, something that was basically pushed onto them in many ways, and something that isn’t common knowledge on how to deal with. What the fair way to settle this is, I don’t know.
    “. . . pushed onto them”? Seriously.

    When they come out of high school, they should have a clue about finances and the real world. They learn that from their parents and work experience. Apparently, the public education system doesn’t teach it. It didn’t in the old days, either.
  • Member Posts: 3,042
    Sledog said:

    If you borrow money you pay it back! I know that's a difficult concept for some.

    Difficult concept to grasp for many.

    Make poor decisions and expect others to pay for it . . .
  • Member Posts: 30,159
    trublue said:

    “. . . pushed onto them”? Seriously.

    When they come out of high school, they should have a clue about finances and the real world. They learn that from their parents and work experience. Apparently, the public education system doesn’t teach it. It didn’t in the old days, either.
    College was fairly cheap in the old days. These loans and financial aid were made and seemed like a game changer. Now everyone (not just the middle and upper class) could go to college. It did that for some. For others, it saddled them in debt.

    Serious question, you’re well out of college age. Why do you care if the loans are partially or fully forgiven? What difference would it make in your life?
  • Member Posts: 37,960 Standard Supporter

    There is some nuance to it. An 18 year old can’t get a job that pays enough to live independently, they can’t get a loan to start a business, so taking the loan and going to college seems like a pretty good option until you’re paying off debt well into your 40’s. Not to mention the price of attending college has skyrocketed.

    I get your point, but don’t agree that it’s as simple as that. I doubt many of the older folks here had to deal with this kind of bullshit. The banking institutions and universities engaged in some unethical practices.

    I think some foregiveness is warranted. It’s not really fair to saddle a young adult into debt, something that was basically pushed onto them in many ways, and something that isn’t common knowledge on how to deal with. What the fair way to settle this is, I don’t know.
    I don't see it that way. These kids have parents and advice galore. Most go to college to party and get some unemployable useless degree. It's unfortunate but It's still their choice and they were adults. Be a man or woman and keep your word! I was always taught a man's word is a bond and you're worthless without integrity. I normally do business on a handshake. When we had or business we had great relationships with our suppliers etc. Trust is what the world use to run on but it barely exists anymore.

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