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Biden DOJ arrest guy who posted voting meme in 2016.

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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,183
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    Is tricking the ignorant and gullible into not exercising their votes protected speech?

    I don't think the First Amendment is your best argument here.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,429
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    HHusky said:

    Is tricking the ignorant and gullible into not exercising their votes protected speech?

    I don't think the First Amendment is your best argument here.

    Well that does describe democrat voters but its not against the law anymore than it is for Biden to claim he had a covid plan
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    So the joke is to deliberately disseminate misinformation to deprive individuals of their constitutional right to vote. Hilarious.

    If I yell fire in a crowded room and you’re dumb enough to think there’s a fire, that’s your fault.

    If I steal from you and you’re dumb enough to let me, that’s your fault.

    Why have laws at all? Just rub some personal responsibility on it.

    Your lust for Fascism is noted. Society made laws against yelling fire. It’s called will of the people.

    I must have missed the mass movement to prosecute people for making memes.

    This is an example being made of someone. A political prosecution to stifle dissent. Just like arresting Brandon Straka for protesting outside the Capitol.

    You support and are excusing everything you claim to be against and you don’t even know it. It’s because you’re not very bright. A perfect Useful Idiot who is a political tribalist.


    The will of the people.
    I already know you support his authoritarianism and also fascist prosecutions of political enemies.

    Many others feel who voted for him feel lied to, as they should.
    I’m mostly seeing complaints from Trump voters that are mad his coup failed.
    Where is this happening? Not here.

    Calling that a coup and making DC a military stats now is the best example of gaslighting in recent memory. I also like how the FBI spread all over the disinformation on massive right-wing armed protests at all 50 state capitols on Inauguration Day.

    A complete false narrative that Leftists gobbled up as fact.
    The actually closed the local county courts here in California on Jan. 20th with the excuse being that there were threats being made to the workers. When the reality was that it was just an excuse to give state workers another paid holiday.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,183
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    HHusky said:

    Is tricking the ignorant and gullible into not exercising their votes protected speech?

    I don't think the First Amendment is your best argument here.

    Well that does describe democrat voters but its not against the law anymore than it is for Biden to claim he had a covid plan
    18 U.S. Code § 241 is the law.

    I agree with you that it would be smarter to argue that the statute wasn't intended to criminalize this conduct.

    The First Amendment argument strikes me as a loser.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,429
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Is tricking the ignorant and gullible into not exercising their votes protected speech?

    I don't think the First Amendment is your best argument here.

    Well that does describe democrat voters but its not against the law anymore than it is for Biden to claim he had a covid plan
    18 U.S. Code § 241 is the law.

    I agree with you that it would be smarter to argue that the statute wasn't intended to criminalize this conduct.

    The First Amendment argument strikes me as a loser.
    You should know
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Is tricking the ignorant and gullible into not exercising their votes protected speech?

    I don't think the First Amendment is your best argument here.

    Well that does describe democrat voters but its not against the law anymore than it is for Biden to claim he had a covid plan
    18 U.S. Code § 241 is the law.

    I agree with you that it would be smarter to argue that the statute wasn't intended to criminalize this conduct.

    The First Amendment argument strikes me as a loser.
    Yeah, Daddy gave Rush a medal is more the Dazzler's kind of winning argument.
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    Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,867
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    What’s the joke?

    It literally just says 'Hillary' and doesn't give a last name. It also doesn't say anything about what they're voting for, just 'president'. President of what? Not to mention it says to TEXT your vote which should make it obvious even to most children that it's not a real vote for US President. I feel no remorse for anyone who texted their vote to this number instead of filling out an actual ballot, and it seems obvious that this case will be thrown out.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,183
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Is tricking the ignorant and gullible into not exercising their votes protected speech?

    I don't think the First Amendment is your best argument here.

    Well that does describe democrat voters but its not against the law anymore than it is for Biden to claim he had a covid plan
    18 U.S. Code § 241 is the law.

    I agree with you that it would be smarter to argue that the statute wasn't intended to criminalize this conduct.

    The First Amendment argument strikes me as a loser.
    You should know
    Imagine how disappointed those of us looking forward to your analysis of the statute are.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,183
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    What’s the joke?

    It literally just says 'Hillary' and doesn't give a last name. It also doesn't say anything about what they're voting for, just 'president'. President of what? Not to mention it says to TEXT your vote which should make it obvious even to most children that it's not a real vote for US President. I feel no remorse for anyone who texted their vote to this number instead of filling out an actual ballot, and it seems obvious that this case will be thrown out.
    Fender's remorse is the new test of statutory construction.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,183
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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Is tricking the ignorant and gullible into not exercising their votes protected speech?

    I don't think the First Amendment is your best argument here.

    Well that does describe democrat voters but its not against the law anymore than it is for Biden to claim he had a covid plan
    18 U.S. Code § 241 is the law.

    I agree with you that it would be smarter to argue that the statute wasn't intended to criminalize this conduct.

    The First Amendment argument strikes me as a loser.
    Yeah, Daddy gave Rush a medal is more the Dazzler's kind of winning argument.
    So nothing. Again.
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    Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,867
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    HHusky said:



    What’s the joke?

    It literally just says 'Hillary' and doesn't give a last name. It also doesn't say anything about what they're voting for, just 'president'. President of what? Not to mention it says to TEXT your vote which should make it obvious even to most children that it's not a real vote for US President. I feel no remorse for anyone who texted their vote to this number instead of filling out an actual ballot, and it seems obvious that this case will be thrown out.
    Fender's remorse is the new test of statutory construction.
    At the very least he won't be convicted. The DOJ is basing his case on the grounds that people were 'blocked' from actually voting. This meme did nothing to block anyone from voting. And as others have pointed out, similar joke/trick memes have been made and shared by people from both sides, so this would open up a massive can of worms.
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    RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,244
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    Do you guys think it should be legal to disseminate misinformation designed to deprive individuals of their constitutional right to vote?

    Please eliminate this douche Stalin
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    Blu82Blu82 Member Posts: 1,511
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    RoadTrip said:

    Do you guys think it should be legal to disseminate misinformation designed to deprive individuals of their constitutional right to vote?

    Please eliminate this douche Stalin
    No, keep him.
    Where else can you make fun of the short bus kids and not get in trouble.
    "Are you not entertained?"
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,183
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    HHusky said:



    What’s the joke?

    It literally just says 'Hillary' and doesn't give a last name. It also doesn't say anything about what they're voting for, just 'president'. President of what? Not to mention it says to TEXT your vote which should make it obvious even to most children that it's not a real vote for US President. I feel no remorse for anyone who texted their vote to this number instead of filling out an actual ballot, and it seems obvious that this case will be thrown out.
    Fender's remorse is the new test of statutory construction.
    At the very least he won't be convicted. The DOJ is basing his case on the grounds that people were 'blocked' from actually voting. This meme did nothing to block anyone from voting. And as others have pointed out, similar joke/trick memes have been made and shared by people from both sides, so this would open up a massive can of worms.
    The statute requires a conspiracy. That differentiates it from a lot of the jokes and tricks. But I agree that the actual language of the statute is where the defense can make some hay. There is plenty of evidence of a conspiracy, but a conspiracy to do what exactly?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,429
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:



    What’s the joke?

    It literally just says 'Hillary' and doesn't give a last name. It also doesn't say anything about what they're voting for, just 'president'. President of what? Not to mention it says to TEXT your vote which should make it obvious even to most children that it's not a real vote for US President. I feel no remorse for anyone who texted their vote to this number instead of filling out an actual ballot, and it seems obvious that this case will be thrown out.
    Fender's remorse is the new test of statutory construction.
    At the very least he won't be convicted. The DOJ is basing his case on the grounds that people were 'blocked' from actually voting. This meme did nothing to block anyone from voting. And as others have pointed out, similar joke/trick memes have been made and shared by people from both sides, so this would open up a massive can of worms.
    The statute requires a conspiracy. That differentiates it from a lot of the jokes and tricks. But I agree that the actual language of the statute is where the defense can make some hay. There is plenty of evidence of a conspiracy, but a conspiracy to do what exactly?
    So no case

    You don't get paid by the word here
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,183
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:



    What’s the joke?

    It literally just says 'Hillary' and doesn't give a last name. It also doesn't say anything about what they're voting for, just 'president'. President of what? Not to mention it says to TEXT your vote which should make it obvious even to most children that it's not a real vote for US President. I feel no remorse for anyone who texted their vote to this number instead of filling out an actual ballot, and it seems obvious that this case will be thrown out.
    Fender's remorse is the new test of statutory construction.
    At the very least he won't be convicted. The DOJ is basing his case on the grounds that people were 'blocked' from actually voting. This meme did nothing to block anyone from voting. And as others have pointed out, similar joke/trick memes have been made and shared by people from both sides, so this would open up a massive can of worms.
    The statute requires a conspiracy. That differentiates it from a lot of the jokes and tricks. But I agree that the actual language of the statute is where the defense can make some hay. There is plenty of evidence of a conspiracy, but a conspiracy to do what exactly?
    So no case

    You don't get paid by the word here
    The why is as important as the outcome. Don't quit your day job.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Is tricking the ignorant and gullible into not exercising their votes protected speech?

    I don't think the First Amendment is your best argument here.

    Well that does describe democrat voters but its not against the law anymore than it is for Biden to claim he had a covid plan
    18 U.S. Code § 241 is the law.

    I agree with you that it would be smarter to argue that the statute wasn't intended to criminalize this conduct.

    The First Amendment argument strikes me as a loser.
    Yeah, Daddy gave Rush a medal is more the Dazzler's kind of winning argument.
    So nothing. Again.

    Agree, that argument made by you was on account of the fact you had nothing.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,429
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:



    What’s the joke?

    It literally just says 'Hillary' and doesn't give a last name. It also doesn't say anything about what they're voting for, just 'president'. President of what? Not to mention it says to TEXT your vote which should make it obvious even to most children that it's not a real vote for US President. I feel no remorse for anyone who texted their vote to this number instead of filling out an actual ballot, and it seems obvious that this case will be thrown out.
    Fender's remorse is the new test of statutory construction.
    At the very least he won't be convicted. The DOJ is basing his case on the grounds that people were 'blocked' from actually voting. This meme did nothing to block anyone from voting. And as others have pointed out, similar joke/trick memes have been made and shared by people from both sides, so this would open up a massive can of worms.
    The statute requires a conspiracy. That differentiates it from a lot of the jokes and tricks. But I agree that the actual language of the statute is where the defense can make some hay. There is plenty of evidence of a conspiracy, but a conspiracy to do what exactly?
    So no case

    You don't get paid by the word here
    The why is as important as the outcome. Don't quit your day job.
    So still nothing

    I do your job better than you
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,183
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:



    What’s the joke?

    It literally just says 'Hillary' and doesn't give a last name. It also doesn't say anything about what they're voting for, just 'president'. President of what? Not to mention it says to TEXT your vote which should make it obvious even to most children that it's not a real vote for US President. I feel no remorse for anyone who texted their vote to this number instead of filling out an actual ballot, and it seems obvious that this case will be thrown out.
    Fender's remorse is the new test of statutory construction.
    At the very least he won't be convicted. The DOJ is basing his case on the grounds that people were 'blocked' from actually voting. This meme did nothing to block anyone from voting. And as others have pointed out, similar joke/trick memes have been made and shared by people from both sides, so this would open up a massive can of worms.
    The statute requires a conspiracy. That differentiates it from a lot of the jokes and tricks. But I agree that the actual language of the statute is where the defense can make some hay. There is plenty of evidence of a conspiracy, but a conspiracy to do what exactly?
    So no case

    You don't get paid by the word here
    The why is as important as the outcome. Don't quit your day job.
    So still nothing

    I do your job better than you
    obviously
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,429
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    Everyone has noticed. I've checked around
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