Cardwell to Da Ducks

DJDuck said:

Another Great Running Back. We are blessed.😁👍🏉

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/byron-cardwell-236737

How many great running backs would you say we have right now?

ntxduck said:

DJDuck said:

Another Great Running Back. We are blessed.😁👍🏉

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/byron-cardwell-236737

How many great running backs would you say we have right now?

.5. One, on the odd times where Verdell is healthy.

DJDuck said:

IPukeOregonGrellow said:

ntxduck said:

DJDuck said:

Another Great Running Back. We are blessed.😁👍🏉

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/byron-cardwell-236737

How many great running backs would you say we have right now?

.5. One, on the odd times where Verdell is healthy.

He has rushed for over 1,000 yards in each of his 2 full seasons-averaging around 5.5 yards per carry

Hence one when Verdell is healthy.

Maybe Dollars, Benson and Cardwell add to the total next year. But we don't deal in hypotheticals.

Dye should not be used much unless they are in passing downs. He fumbles way too much to be trusted for more than a 5-6 touch capacity.

Verdell can't be trusted for more than 10-15 touches a game. that might even be too much, as his body has proven that.

Dollars I think has the highest upside of the returning backs, and he should get 30-40% of the rb touches week 1, with Verdell getting 50%, and Dye getting 10-20%. When something happens to Verdell, which something will, I think we need to add Benson into the mix.

NorthwestFresh said:

ntxduck said:

NorthwestFresh said:

DJDuck said:

IPukeOregonGrellow said:

ntxduck said:

DJDuck said:

Another Great Running Back. We are blessed.😁👍🏉

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/byron-cardwell-236737

How many great running backs would you say we have right now?

.5. One, on the odd times where Verdell is healthy.

He has rushed for over 1,000 yards in each of his 2 full seasons-averaging around 5.5 yards per carry

That’s simply not good enough for a former All-American such as @ntxduck. The man has standards.

Lol. It’s ok to admit our running back stable isn’t that good. Because it’s not.

Cj is good. Can’t ever stay healthy. Don’t think you can consider him great when he plays half the games.

Dye is a third down back at best and fumbles too much.

Dollars looks good but we haven’t seen him enough. Was hoping we’d see him more vs isu after having some nice runs against sc, but no.

Habibi gone.

Benson redshirted after surgery.

Who in that group would you argue is great? Terrence Whitehead is better than all of them.

When you put it like that, it’s interesting and true, although Verdell has been better than Whitehead was as a Duck.

Turns out Royce Freemans don’t grow on trees, and even he’s about one more year away from being out of the NFL. LaMike flamed out almost immediately, Byron Marshall never even played in the NFL, and Barner is a special teams player bouncing around teams.

I do like Dollars a lot too. He deserves more carries next year. Cyrus was not good other than as a 3rd and very short back.

The only real “great” RB Oregon has had in recent years is Blount and he lost his shit against Hout and then had a crucial fumble in the Rose Bowl that should have been a TD fun.

Thanks for the further thoughts on your opinion.

I’d say both kenjon and lmj were great bordering on elite college running backs.

NorthwestFresh said:

ntxduck said:

NorthwestFresh said:

ntxduck said:

NorthwestFresh said:

DJDuck said:

IPukeOregonGrellow said:

ntxduck said:

DJDuck said:

Another Great Running Back. We are blessed.😁👍🏉

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/byron-cardwell-236737

How many great running backs would you say we have right now?

.5. One, on the odd times where Verdell is healthy.

He has rushed for over 1,000 yards in each of his 2 full seasons-averaging around 5.5 yards per carry

That’s simply not good enough for a former All-American such as @ntxduck. The man has standards.

Lol. It’s ok to admit our running back stable isn’t that good. Because it’s not.

Cj is good. Can’t ever stay healthy. Don’t think you can consider him great when he plays half the games.

Dye is a third down back at best and fumbles too much.

Dollars looks good but we haven’t seen him enough. Was hoping we’d see him more vs isu after having some nice runs against sc, but no.

Habibi gone.

Benson redshirted after surgery.

Who in that group would you argue is great? Terrence Whitehead is better than all of them.

When you put it like that, it’s interesting and true, although Verdell has been better than Whitehead was as a Duck.

Turns out Royce Freemans don’t grow on trees, and even he’s about one more year away from being out of the NFL. LaMike flamed out almost immediately, Byron Marshall never even played in the NFL, and Barner is a special teams player bouncing around teams.

I do like Dollars a lot too. He deserves more carries next year. Cyrus was not good other than as a 3rd and very short back.

The only real “great” RB Oregon has had in recent years is Blount and he lost his shit against Hout and then had a crucial fumble in the Rose Bowl that should have been a TD fun.

Thanks for the further thoughts on your opinion.

I’d say both kenjon and lmj were great bordering on elite college running backs.

System backs

I totally forgot Jonathon Stewart, by far is the best all-around back for Oregon since football was invented in 1994. Rueben Droughns and Onterrio Smith were also elite. Mo Morris is up there with them.

Jeremiah Johnson was a good college back as well.

JJ is my all time favorite duck. Saw him start multiple fights in practice when guys weren’t going hard enough

1. Terrence Whitehead is the worst.
2. CJ is not awful, but what a sad state of affairs for the conference when this is the most well known RB it has to offer.
3. Byron Marshall drew three years of active roster NFL paychecks and another year of practice squad pay. More than expected for a 5’9” back with 4.58 speed.
4. Travis Dye is the best running back on this team. He’s better than Verdell. Six fumbles in 367 touches is shitty. Wear some gloves. He should still be the starter, though.

Dye should have been used more this past season. Arroyo had under utilized him, I think Moorhead understands now that consistently CJ can only be counted to run into the backs of the offensive linemen and get injured.

Some Travis Dye stats:
* 50th ranked RB in the 2018 class, of the 49 ahead of him only Jermar Jefferson has rushed for more yards. It was a shitty year for RBs, but shiniest turd.
* Career 5.9 YPC is 7th out of Oregon’s top 25 career RB rushers. Top yards per catch out of players who exclusively played RB.
* Dye is 14/16 in his career on converting 3rd and 3 or less on runs. That is amazing. He’s also 3/4 on 4th down. Yet they kept running the TD vulture and CJ because everyone is dumb. Maybe the shiftiest back is better than the slow ass and the blind one? Just an idea.
* In 2020 Dye carried it 28 times on first down for an average of 9 YPC and a long of only 26.
* In 310 carries Dye has only lost 31 yards. Some of that is the pistol. Oregon’s offense, duh like everyone, does way better when you don’t have second and long and Dye is very efficient at it.

Stats can be skewed, yadda yadda. You can’t ignore that he’s been a great recruit for what I assumed was a favor for his brother. If Dye had been gettin Verdell’s carries behind in 2018 and 19 I wonder how it would have played out.



Someone needs to tell CJ it’s okay to not just run straight ahead.


You can also not run into the LGs or RGs ass, it’s a thing running backs are allowed to do.

RatherBeBrewing said:

1. Terrence Whitehead is the worst.
2. CJ is not awful, but what a sad state of affairs for the conference when this is the most well known RB it has to offer.
3. Byron Marshall drew three years of active roster NFL paychecks and another year of practice squad pay. More than expected for a 5’9” back with 4.58 speed.
4. Travis Dye is the best running back on this team. He’s better than Verdell. Six fumbles in 367 touches is shitty. Wear some gloves. He should still be the starter, though.

Dye should have been used more this past season. Arroyo had under utilized him, I think Moorhead understands now that consistently CJ can only be counted to run into the backs of the offensive linemen and get injured.

Some Travis Dye stats:
* 50th ranked RB in the 2018 class, of the 49 ahead of him only Jermar Jefferson has rushed for more yards. It was a shitty year for RBs, but shiniest turd.
* Career 5.9 YPC is 7th out of Oregon’s top 25 career RB rushers. Top yards per catch out of players who exclusively played RB.
* Dye is 14/16 in his career on converting 3rd and 3 or less on runs. That is amazing. He’s also 3/4 on 4th down. Yet they kept running the TD vulture and CJ because everyone is dumb. Maybe the shiftiest back is better than the slow ass and the blind one? Just an idea.
* In 2020 Dye carried it 28 times on first down for an average of 9 YPC and a long of only 26.
* In 310 carries Dye has only lost 31 yards. Some of that is the pistol. Oregon’s offense, duh like everyone, does way better when you don’t have second and long and Dye is very efficient at it.

Stats can be skewed, yadda yadda. You can’t ignore that he’s been a great recruit for what I assumed was a favor for his brother. If Dye had been gettin Verdell’s carries behind in 2018 and 19 I wonder how it would have played out.



Someone needs to tell CJ it’s okay to not just run straight ahead.


You can also not run into the LGs or RGs ass, it’s a thing running backs are allowed to do.

I prefer backs that don’t fumble