Seahawks release Keith Price.

$50 for whomever kicks Hugh in the nads if he says "I told you so."
Comments
-
I wish the kid well. Not many players can shoulder public blame from a weak head coach week after week and perform at the level he did.... much of it while injured!
Thanks for the memories, kid. I wish you all the best in the future. -
They should move him to receiver. More natural position for him.
-
He's an athletic specimen. Well spoken too.
-
How will he take care of his family now?TheGlove said:He's an athletic specimen. Well spoken too.
-
When Jack retires from the NFL, returns to Seattle and cashes Bank from the local deep pockets in the wink, wink deal to forgo millions of guaranteed money when he sacrificed Self for Sark and UW by returning one more year... Price can go work for him.MikeDamone said:
How will he take care of his family now?TheGlove said:He's an athletic specimen. Well spoken too.
-
Weird that Sark was a qb and had no idea how to develop Price. Waste. I like the kid a lot.
-
Also LOL at Kim and Hugh for protecting Dude Brah at the the expense of Price. Not really so much LOL I guess as it is sad and pathetic...maybe even miserable..
-
He didn't have the smarts to play QB. Should have tried out WR in college.
-
Sark didn't give a fuck about Price, that much was clearly evident.
With a real coach, Price wouldnt be playing on two bum knees and wouldve likely been drafted.
-
central football graduate in CFL
Mike Reilly (American football)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mike ReillyNo. 13 Edmonton Eskimos
Date of birth: January 25, 1985
Place of birth: Kennewick, Washington
Career information
Status: Active
CFL status: Import
Position(s): QB
Height: 6 ft 3 in (191 cm)
Weight: 230 lb (100 kg)
College: Central Washington
High school: Flathead
Hand: Right
Organizations
As player:
2009
2009
2009
2010
2010–2012
2013–Present
Pittsburgh Steelers*
Green Bay Packers*
St. Louis Rams
Seattle Seahawks*
BC Lions
Edmonton Eskimos
*Offseason and/or practice squad member only
Career highlights and awards
2× Second-team All-GNAC (2006–2007)
2× First-team All-GNAC (2007–2008)
GNAC Offensive P.O.Y. (2008)
Third-team Little All-American (2008)
99th Grey Cup champion
Career stats
TD–INT 28–20
Passing yards 4,901
QB Rating 89.1
Playing stats at CFL.ca (http://www.cfl.ca/index.php/roster/show/id/3881)
Playing stats at NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/players/profile?id=REI568278)
Mike Reilly (born January 25, 1985 in Kennewick, Washington) is an American and Canadian football quarterback currently playing for the Edmonton Eskimos of the Canadian Football League. He was signed by the Pittsburgh Steelers as an undrafted free agent in 2009. He played college football at Central Washington.
Reilly has also been a member of the BC Lions, Green Bay Packers, St. Louis Rams and Seattle Seahawks.
Contents
1 Early years
2 College career
3 Professional career
3.1 Pre-draft measureables
3.2 Pittsburgh Steelers
3.3 Green Bay Packers
3.4 St. Louis Rams
3.5 Seattle Seahawks
3.6 BC Lions
3.7 Edmonton Eskimos
4 Statistics
5 References
6 External links
Early years
Reilly played three seasons for Kamiakin High School in Kennewick, Washington, before relocating to Kalispell, Montana. As a senior, he set a Flathead High School record with 2,280 yards. He originally signed with NAIA Montana Tech, but chose to walk on at Washington State.
College career
Reilly was a co-runner-up for the Harlon Hill Trophy, which is presented to the nation’s top Division II football player, as a senior. He holds the NCAA all-divisions record with at least one touchdown pass in all 46 career games. For his career he completed 64 percent of his passes over his four years as a starter for 12,448 yards, 118 touchdowns and only 40 interceptions.
After redshirting at Washington State as a 5th-string quarterback, Reilly decided he didn't want to bide his time waiting for playing time. Central Washington offered him a chance to start right away so he transferred. He was the 2008 Great Northwest Athletic Conference Offensive Player of the Year after completing 65.2% of his passes (207 of 414) in 2008 for 3,706 passing with 37 TDs, six INTs and he rushed 103 times for 415 yards (4.0 avg.) with four touchdowns. He was also named First-team All Great NW for his efforts. He was also Third-team Little All-America.
In 2007 he started all 13 games and completed 271 of 435 passes (62.3%) for 3,386 yards, 30 touchdowns and 10 interceptions while be named Second-team All-North Central. He also rushed 129 times for 266 yards (2.1 avg.) with three touchdowns.In 2006 he started all 11 games and was 231/351 (65.8%) for 2,660 yards 21 TDs and 12 Ints., rushed 137 times for 272 yards (2.0 avg.) with four touchdowns and was named Second team All-North Central. The year prior, 2005, he started all 10 games and was 223/353 (63.2%) for 2,686 yards 30 TDs and 11 Ints. and rushed 86 times for 310 yards (3.6 avg.) with three touchdowns.while being named First-team All-Great NW.
Professional career
Pre-draft measureables
Pre-draft measurablesHt Wt 40-yd dash 10-yd split 20-yd split 20-ss 3-cone Vert Broad BP Wonderlic
6 ft 3 in 214 lb 4.74 s 1.62 s 2.71 s 4.11 s 6.76 s 32½ in 9 ft 1 in 38
40 (and splits) and vertical from Pro Day, all others from NFL Combine.
Pittsburgh Steelers
Mike Reilly was eligible to be selected in the 2009 NFL Draft, but went undrafted. He signed a free agent contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Reilly went 10-of-15 for 117 yards during the 2009 preseason, but was waived on Sept. 5, 2009.
Green Bay Packers
On Nov. 19, 2009, Reilly was signed to the Green Bay Packers practice squad.
St. Louis Rams
On December 9, 2009, he was signed off the Packers' practice squad by the St. Louis Rams. He was waived on May 4, 2010.
Seattle Seahawks
Reilly was claimed off waivers by the Seattle Seahawks on May 4, 2010. He was waived on May 18, 2010.
BC Lions
On July 26, 2010, it was announced that Reilly had signed a practice roster agreement with the BC Lions. On August 26, 2010 Reilly was activated by the Lions and spent the remainder of the year as the third-string quarterback.[1] He dressed for all 18 games in 2011 as the third-string quarterback and shared in the Lions' 99th Grey Cup victory. He got his first pro start on October 19, 2012, against the Edmonton Eskimos due to an injury to Travis Lulay. Reilly completed 19 of 28 throwing attempts for 276 yards with two touchdowns and one interception, leading the Lions to victory of over the Edmonton Eskimos 39-19. The win clinched a first round bye for the BC Lions in the 100th Grey Cup Playoffs.
Edmonton Eskimos
On January 31, 2013, Reilly was traded to the Edmonton Eskimos by the BC Lions; the trade included the exchange of the clubs' second round picks in the 2013 CFL Draft and the Lions receiving the Eskimos' second round pick in the 2014 CFL Draft.[2] Entering the 2013 CFL season Reilly was in open competition with Matt Nichols for the starting quarterback job. [3] Nichols tore his ACL in preseason which made Reilly the starting QB for the season. On August 18 2013 (Week 8) Reilly threw for over 500 yards in a losing cause, the fourth highest performance for yards passing in a single game in the history of the Eskimos football club. In his first season as a full-time starter in the CFL Reilly threw for 4,207 yards, with 24 touchdowns and 18 interceptions. He also finished 5th in the league in rushing yards with 709. Despite his efforts the Eskimos struggled all season finishing with a record of 4-14 and missing the playoffs.
Statistics Passing Rushing
Year Team Games Started Att Comp Pct Yards TD Int Rating Att Yards Avg Long TD Fumb
2010 BC 4 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
2011 BC 18 0 2 1 50.0 12 0 0 68.8 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
2012 BC 18 2 75 52 69.3 682 4 2 104.4 34 122 3.6 18 2 4
2013 EDM 18 18 512 305 59.6 4,207 24 18 86.9 84 709 8.4 45 1 5
CFL totals 58 20 589 358 60.8 4,901 28 20 89.1 118 831 7.0 45 3 9
References
^ Lions add quarterback Mike Reilly, release Robert Jordan (http://bclions.com/article/lions-add-quarterback-mike-reilly-release-robert-jordan)
^ Reilly traded to the Eskimos (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/cfl/story/2013/01/31/sp-cfl-eskimos-lions.html)
^ Open QB competition (http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=424563)
External links
Edmonton Eskimos bio (http://www.esks.com/roster/show/id/3881)
Green Bay Packers bio (http://www.packers.com/team/players/reilly_mike/)
St. Louis Rams bio (http://www.stlouisrams.com/team/players/77249/)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mike_Reilly_(American_football)&oldid=613189980"
Categories: 1985 births
Living people
American football quarterbacks
BC Lions players
Central Washington Wildcats football players
Edmonton Eskimos players
Green Bay Packers players
Grey Cup champions
People from Kennewick, Washington
Pittsburgh Steelers players
Players of American football from Washington (state)
St. Louis Rams players
Seattle Seahawks players
Undrafted National Football League players
Washington State Cougars football players
This page was last modified on 16 June 2014 at 20:36.
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a non-profit organization. -
no mention of his coaching career at Oregon St.?
-
Does more with less.sarktastic said:no mention of his coaching career at Oregon St.?
-
This will be unpopular here, but you guys are putting too much blame on Sark. He's a shitty coach, but how he handled Price is pretty low on the list. Fielding undisciplined teams, the shit recruiting at OL were way bigger issues, and being dude brah were way bigger issues. Joey's, the recruiting bus, the rumor about girls on his boat the week of the Oregon game. This guy is a frat boy masquerading as a head football coach. However, the one thing he is competent at is coaching QB's. Hate it all you want, he's put more QB's in the NFL than just about any coach.
I'm surprised Price was cut this soon. I actually thought he had a fairly good chance at making the practice squad. Hopefully, he was cut this early because Carroll/Schneider are doing him a favor and letting him find a better opportunity because he didn't have a chance to make the Seahawks.
He's far from the first good college QB who wasn't NFL caliber. There are QB's who get great coaching who don't make it. It's not always the coach's fault a guy doesn't succeed in the NFL. The fact is, Price is pretty small and has limited mobility. Smaller QB's are getting more of a chance nowadays, but most of those guys are mobile. -
1) How he handled Price is pretty high on the list. From shitty playcalling (especially in 2012), to the "trust issues" comment, to leaving a hobbled Price in games against shit opponents FAR longer than he shouldve been, all factors point to Sark being a fucking moron.RoadDawg55 said:This will be unpopular here, but you guys are putting too much blame on Sark. He's a shitty coach, but how he handled Price is pretty low on the list. Fielding undisciplined teams, the shit recruiting at OL were way bigger issues, and being dude brah were way bigger issues. Joey's, the recruiting bus, the rumor about girls on his boat the week of the Oregon game. This guy is a frat boy masquerading as a head football coach. However, the one thing he is competent at is coaching QB's. Hate it all you want, he's put more QB's in the NFL than just about any coach.
I'm surprised Price was cut this soon. I actually thought he had a fairly good chance at making the practice squad. Hopefully, he was cut this early because Carroll/Schneider are doing him a favor and letting him find a better opportunity because he didn't have a chance to make the Seahawks.
He's far from the first good college QB who wasn't NFL caliber. There are QB's who get great coaching who don't make it. It's not always the coach's fault a guy doesn't succeed in the NFL. The fact is, Price is pretty small and has limited mobility. Smaller QB's are getting more of a chance nowadays, but most of those guys are mobile.
2) I'm unconvinced Sark is some ascendant QB guru. At USC, he was coaching 5 star QBs that you'd have to actually undermine in order for them to not have success. I was unimpressed with his work on Locker. You can argue that Price has good numbers in 2/3 seasons because of Sark's coaching, but then you also have to recognize all the flaws in Sark's tutelage discussed in poont 1.
3) Not having an O-Line fucked up Price more than any other factor. The dude got abused in 2012 and never had the same quickness. He was way more mobile at the start of his career than he was at the end. Go rewatch the 2011 Alamo Bowl. That is Sark's fault. You can have the best general ever (QB), but if the troops suck (O-Line), it's not going to matter and the general is going to get fucked up. A great QB "guru" like Sark should be able to recognize the importance of the fucking O-Line. Sark had an amazing O-Line at USC, and Locker was very mobile, so Sark was skating by on the talents of other individuals.
4) Yes, plenty of good college QB's don't have success in the NFL. The game has changed, and most QBs put up big numbers these days. Still, Price set the UW passing record for TDs in a season, and managed to put up solid numbers while playing behind the aforementioned dreckfest of an O-Line. He also had the "benefit" of playing for one of the most inept play-callers in the nation: Sark.
5) Fuck off
Sark was good at recruiting talented skill players and barely beating less talented teams. That's it. The dude is a fraud and got exposed by any coach with a pulse. -
STAY!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
1) How he handled Price is pretty high on the list. From shitty playcalling (especially in 2012), to the "trust issues" comment, to leaving a hobbled Price in games against shit opponents FAR longer than he shouldve been, all factors point to Sark being a fucking moron.RoadDawg55 said:This will be unpopular here, but you guys are putting too much blame on Sark. He's a shitty coach, but how he handled Price is pretty low on the list. Fielding undisciplined teams, the shit recruiting at OL were way bigger issues, and being dude brah were way bigger issues. Joey's, the recruiting bus, the rumor about girls on his boat the week of the Oregon game. This guy is a frat boy masquerading as a head football coach. However, the one thing he is competent at is coaching QB's. Hate it all you want, he's put more QB's in the NFL than just about any coach.
I'm surprised Price was cut this soon. I actually thought he had a fairly good chance at making the practice squad. Hopefully, he was cut this early because Carroll/Schneider are doing him a favor and letting him find a better opportunity because he didn't have a chance to make the Seahawks.
He's far from the first good college QB who wasn't NFL caliber. There are QB's who get great coaching who don't make it. It's not always the coach's fault a guy doesn't succeed in the NFL. The fact is, Price is pretty small and has limited mobility. Smaller QB's are getting more of a chance nowadays, but most of those guys are mobile.
2) I'm unconvinced Sark is some ascendant QB guru. At USC, he was coaching 5 star QBs that you'd have to actually undermine in order for them to not have success. I was unimpressed with his work on Locker. You can argue that Price has good numbers in 2/3 seasons because of Sark's coaching, but then you also have to recognize all the flaws in Sark's tutelage discussed in poont 1.
3) Not having an O-Line fucked up Price more than any other factor. The dude got abused in 2012 and never had the same quickness. He was way more mobile at the start of his career than he was at the end. Go rewatch the 2011 Alamo Bowl. That is Sark's fault. You can have the best general ever (QB), but if the troops suck (O-Line), it's not going to matter and the general is going to get fucked up. A great QB "guru" like Sark should be able to recognize the importance of the fucking O-Line. Sark had an amazing O-Line at USC, and Locker was very mobile, so Sark was skating by on the talents of other individuals.
4) Yes, plenty of good college QB's don't have success in the NFL. The game has changed, and most QBs put up big numbers these days. Still, Price set the UW passing record for TDs in a season, and managed to put up solid numbers while playing behind the aforementioned dreckfest of an O-Line. He also had the "benefit" of playing for one of the most inept play-callers in the nation: Sark.
5) Fuck off
Sark was good at recruiting talented skill players and barely beating less talented teams. That's it. The dude is a fraud and got exposed by any coach with a pulse. -
1) Decent point. The trust issues comment was stupid. As far as leaving him in too long, it was often so Price could pad his stats (see Cal and Colorado this year). There were a few times when we were getting plungered that Price was out there too long. I don't think that is really that relevant to what he does in the NFL though.
2) I don't think he's a magical QB guru, but who is? The fact is, he has put more QB's in the NFL than any other college coach. That's a fact. Other coaches are getting 4 and 5 star guys too. He has some clue about coaching QB's and getting them to the NFL.
3) 2012 definitely hampered Price's development. At the time, I was pissed at Sark. It was right after Garnett, Banner, and Williams said fuck you and his recruiting issues were fresh in our minds. Sark gets some blame for not recruiting any OL in 2009, but we had to wait for the "Cascade Front" from 2010 to develop. In 2009, it's very debatable we would have gotten any good OL. Price and Trufant were the only good players from the shitty class. It is inexcusable he got none. It's not hard to look at the roster and see a huge need. In his defense, he took 7 the year after.
The Cascade Front were first time starters in 2012 (they were young), got better in 2013, and I'm optimistic about them this year. We didn't have anyone else. It's as much, and in my opinon much more Ty's fault for not recruiting any decent OL from 2007 and 2008. Not to mention, Riva and Tanigawa went down in the first 2 weeks. Sark deserves some of this blame, but it's definitely less than I gave him at the time. It was unfortunate for Price and he wasn't the same after. It's not entirely Sark's fault though.
4) Price was a good college QB. Sark has some issues with playcalling, but those were often abandoning the run at the wrong times. He gave Price the chance to sling it around and Price put up good numbers under him. Connor Shaw played for Steve Spurrier, had a 24-1 TD:INT ratio in the SEC, is more mobile than Price and went undrafted. Kellen Moore broke records at Boise State. He wasn't drafted either and is a 3rd string QB now in Detroit and will be out of the league soon. There are only so many spots in the NFL.
5) Good job. You finally stopped being a cunt and made a football post. It was your best effort in weeks, maybe ever. -
1) Price did get his stats padded a tad from staying in against the Little Sisters of The Poor, but it also heightened his risk for injury. I remember him getting hit pretty hard a few times in the 4th (when Miles should've been in 10 minutes prior) and being fucking pissed.RoadDawg55 said:1) Decent point. The trust issues comment was stupid. As far as leaving him in too long, it was often so Price could pad his stats (see Cal and Colorado this year). There were a few times when we were getting plungered that Price was out there too long. I don't think that is really that relevant to what he does in the NFL though.
2) I don't think he's a magical QB guru, but who is? The fact is, he has put more QB's in the NFL than any other college coach. That's a fact. Other coaches are getting 4 and 5 star guys too. He has some clue about coaching QB's.
3) 2012 definitely hampered Price's development. At the time, I was pissed at Sark. It was right after Garnett, Banner, and Williams said fuck you and his recruiting issues were fresh in our minds. Sark gets some blame for not recruiting any OL in 2009, but we had to wait for the "Cascade Front" from 2010 to develop. In 2009, it's very debatable we would have gotten any good OL. Price and Trufant were the only good players from that class.
The Cascade Front were first time starters in 2012 (they were young), got better in 2013, and I'm optimistic about them this year. We didn't have anyone else. It's as much, and in my opinon much more Ty's fault for not recruiting any decent OL from 2007 and 2008. Not to mention, Riva and Tanigawa went down in the first 2 weeks. Sark deserves some of this blame, but it's definitely less than I gave him at the time. It was unfortunate for Price and he wasn't the same after. It's not entirely Sark's fault though.
4) Price was a good college QB. Sark has some issues with playcalling, but those were often abandoning the run at the wrong times. He gave Price the chance to sling it around and Price put up good numbers under him. Connor Shaw played for Steve Spurrier, had a 24-1 TD:INT ratio in the SEC, is more mobile than Price and went undrafted. Kellen Moore broke records at Boise State. He's a 3rd string QB now in Detroit and will be out of the league soon. There are only so many spots in the NFL.
5) Good job. You finally stopped being a cunt and made a football post. It was your best effort in weeks, maybe ever.
2) The QBs he has put into the NFL haven't done much. And again, he had access to the best QB recruits in the country, playing behind one of the best OL's in the country, on one of the best teams in the country. He has some clue, yes, but he greatly harmed Price's chance at an NFL career. Most QBs who put up Price-like numbers get drafter, and don't have two fucked up knees.
3) Dude, are you REALLY blaming Ty for Sark's OL? W, JW. Sark had plenty of time to analyze his team and search for deficiencies. Anyone with half a brain could've seen the OL needed more bodies. Yet still, he didn't emphasize the OL in recruiting. He didn't have good backup options after whiffing on Garnett, Banner, etc. In short, he fucked up. And Price paid the price.
4) Sark's issues with playcalling wasn't limited to abandoning the run. Instead of throwing the ball down the field, he called a bunch of those half-assed lateral passes that he was so fucking fond of. He also was a fucking idiot when it came to the timing of his playcalls. Typical Sark series against a competent defense:
1st and 10: Incomplete pass
2nd and 10: Polk/Sankey rush for 2 yards
3rd and 8: Lateral pass for no gain
Connor Shaw had the throwing mechanics of Tim Tebow. The only reason why Price didn't get drafted is because Sark threw him under the proverbial bus.
5) If you think this is my best effort, you haven't been paying attention. When it's the actual football season, I consistently make football related observations. I also made threads recently discussing the Pac-12, and I've gotten a lot of flack recently for my belief that WSU is going to be good next year. -
Looking back at my post, it was stupid to mention Ty and 2007. Those shitty players would have been graduated anyways. However, there was not one upperclass OL in 2012 besides Schaeffer. That was the real issue. Sark does deserve all the blame for getting none in 2009, but it's also wishful thinking that they would be any good when every player but 2 from that class was dreck.
A true freshman Garnett would have played, but the OL still would have sucked. Porter medically retired before the year. Tanigawa, Riva, and Kohler all got hurt in the first two weeks. Any school that loses 4 starters on the OL is going to be in trouble. The depth wasn't there, but part of that is bad luck with injuries. 4 starters being out is rare. The thing is, the OL still would have been below average with all 4 healthy. It was never going to be good.
Ty blew it in 2008, Sark blew it in 2009. Sark tried to take care of it by recruiting 7 in 2010. 4 of those guys got hurt in 2012. Sark completely fucked up 2011 OL recruiting, but true freshman OL aren't going to help much anyways. I agree with you about 2012 hurting Price, but the OL was bound to be shitty that year, and I think that's regardless of who was our coach.
Price didn't get cut because of his stats. He put up good stats (although a lot of QB's do in this era). His health issues hurt him, along with the OL. I'm in complete agreement there. I just don't think the only reason he's not there is Sark. There aren't many QB's smaller than him, and every one I can think of but Chase Daniel is way more mobile than he is.
I really thought he had a decent chance at making the NFL, and maybe he still does. I'll put my money where my mouth is, I bet Sark gets Kessler to the NFL and if he doesn't flame out (he will) the next qb (Max Browne or Ricky Town) will get to the NFL too. He's a shitty coach who will always have undisciplined teams, but he has a decent system for QB's and a track record of getting them to the NFL. -
Sark's QB's that he's had his hands on:
Matt Leinart: NFL bust
John David Booty: Has never taken a snap in the NFL
Mark Sanchez: NFL bust
Jake Locker: NFL Bust
Keith Price: probably will never take a snap in the NFL
I think it's time Doogs stop praising him as a QB "genius" when every QB he's coached hasn't done shit. -
But how is Sark a bad quarterback coach?He_Needs_More_Time said:Sark's QB's that he's had his hands on:
Matt Leinart: NFL bust
John David Booty: Has never taken a snap in the NFL
Mark Sanchez: NFL bust
Jake Locker: NFL Bust
Keith Price: probably will never take a snap in the NFL
I think it's time Doogs stop praising him as a QB "genius" when every QB he's coached hasn't done shit. -
Sark could have mitigated a LOT of the damage by getting JC o-lineman in 2009 and 2010. Again, he was too fucking stupid to have the foresight to do that.RoadDawg55 said:Looking back at my post, it was stupid to mention Ty and 2007. Those shitty players would have been graduated anyways. However, there was not one upperclass OL in 2012 besides Schaeffer. That was the real issue. Sark does deserve all the blame for getting none in 2009, but it's also wishful thinking that they would be any good when every player but 2 from that class was dreck.
A true freshman Garnett would have played, but the OL still would have sucked. Porter medically retired before the year. Tanigawa, Riva, and Kohler all got hurt in the first two weeks. Any school that loses 4 starters on the OL is going to be in trouble. The depth wasn't there, but part of that is bad luck with injuries. 4 starters being out is rare. The thing is, the OL still would have been below average with all 4 healthy. It was never going to be good.
Ty blew it in 2008, Sark blew it in 2009. Sark tried to take care of it by recruiting 7 in 2010. 4 of those guys got hurt in 2012. Sark completely fucked up 2011 OL recruiting, but true freshman OL aren't going to help much anyways. I agree with you about 2012 hurting Price, but the OL was bound to be shitty that year, and I think that's regardless of who was our coach.
Price didn't get cut because of his stats. He put up good stats (although a lot of QB's do in this era). His health issues hurt him, along with the OL. I'm in complete agreement there. I just don't think the only reason he's not there is Sark. There aren't many QB's smaller than him, and every one I can think of but Chase Daniel is way more mobile than he is.
I really thought he had a decent chance at making the NFL, and maybe he still does. I'll put my money where my mouth is, I bet Sark gets Kessler to the NFL and if he doesn't flame out (he will) the next qb (Max Browne or Ricky Town) will get to the NFL too. He's a shitty coach who will always have undisciplined teams, but he has a decent system for QB's and a track record of getting them to the NFL.
And I know he didn't get cut because of his stats, dude...did you read my fucking posts? The primary reason he didn't make the NFL draft is because of the health issues, which were a direct result of Sark's ineptness.
Wake me when a Sark-coached QB actually does something in the NFL. Palmer is the best of the lot, and he ain't much. Again, I probably couldve gotten the QBs he coached at USC into the NFL, and Jake Locker was the fucking messiah of Moontlake. -
Easier said than done to get JC lineman to UW. We haven't had much, if any success at all getting them. The one OL Sark did sign in 2009 was a JC guy who never got in. Who was the last JC OL to play well at UW? I guess Wes Call in 2000 was decent.
What college coach has multiple successful NFL QB's? David Cutcliffe with the Manning brothers is the only one. After him, I will be waiting. Give me some college coaches with more. I'll bet Sven's $1,000,000 you won't come up with any. -
I think it's still too early to consider Locker a bust. It's all dependent on how he does this year.He_Needs_More_Time said:Sark's QB's that he's had his hands on:
Matt Leinart: NFL bust
John David Booty: Has never taken a snap in the NFL
Mark Sanchez: NFL bust
Jake Locker: NFL Bust
Keith Price: probably will never take a snap in the NFL
I think it's time Doogs stop praising him as a QB "genius" when every QB he's coached hasn't done shit.
If he gets hurt again or has a sub-par season, then yeah, he's a bust. -
That's not the main point I was making. My point is that anyone couldve gotten those QBs into the NFL. Their college success was a product of the USC Carrol-led juggernaut, not Sark saying, "bro, throw a tighter spiral next time, man!"RoadDawg55 said:
What college coach has multiple successful NFL QB's? David Cutcliffe with the Manning brothers is the only one. After him, I will be waiting. Give me some college coaches with more. I'll bet Sven's $1,000,000 you won't come up with any.
hth -
He's not a QB genius, but it's a fact that he has put more QB's in the NFL than any other college coach. Tedford is close. All of his guys but Rodgers are busts too. Most NFL QB's are busts. That's just the nature of the beast. There is no coach that has more than one successful NFL QB besides Cutcliffe.He_Needs_More_Time said:Sark's QB's that he's had his hands on:
Matt Leinart: NFL bust
John David Booty: Has never taken a snap in the NFL
Mark Sanchez: NFL bust
Jake Locker: NFL Bust
Keith Price: probably will never take a snap in the NFL
I think it's time Doogs stop praising him as a QB "genius" when every QB he's coached hasn't done shit. -
Since when did you become such a Doog for Sark?RoadDawg55 said:Easier said than done to get JC lineman to UW. We don't have much success at all getting them. The one OL Sark did sign in 2009 was a JC guy who never got in.
What college coach has multiple successful NFL QB's? David Cutcliffe with the Manning brothers is the only one. After him, I will be waiting. Give me some college coaches with more. I'll bet Sven's $1,000,000 you won't come up with any. -
There is no way to really know if that's true. With the talent USC put around those guys, I think you are probably right. I don't think Sark is a mastermind for getting those guys from USC or Locker to the NFL. Still, nobody else has done it. It's not like Florida, Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, and Michigan don't have 4 and 5 star QB's like USC did. Every QB they trot out is a 4 or 5 star and they have good talent around them too.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
That's not the main point I was making. My point is that anyone couldve gotten those QBs into the NFL. Their college success was a product of the USC Carrol-led juggernaut, not Sark saying, "bro, throw a tighter spiral next time, man!"RoadDawg55 said:
What college coach has multiple successful NFL QB's? David Cutcliffe with the Manning brothers is the only one. After him, I will be waiting. Give me some college coaches with more. I'll bet Sven's $1,000,000 you won't come up with any.
hth -
They didn't have Pete Carroll running the showRoadDawg55 said:
There is no way to really know if that's true. With the talent USC put around those guys, I think you are probably right. I don't think Sark is a mastermind for getting those guys from USC or Locker to the NFL. Still, nobody else has done it. It's not like Florida, Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, and Michigan don't have 4 and 5 star QB's like USC did. Every QB they trot out is a 4 or 5 star and they have good talent around them too.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
That's not the main point I was making. My point is that anyone couldve gotten those QBs into the NFL. Their college success was a product of the USC Carrol-led juggernaut, not Sark saying, "bro, throw a tighter spiral next time, man!"RoadDawg55 said:
What college coach has multiple successful NFL QB's? David Cutcliffe with the Manning brothers is the only one. After him, I will be waiting. Give me some college coaches with more. I'll bet Sven's $1,000,000 you won't come up with any.
hth
hth -
Broad brush. Debate the QB stuff, don't call me a doog for Sark. I hated Sark and wanted him gone after the Alamo Bowl, for certain after the LSU game. His problems weren't coaching Price though. He did a decent job with the guy and not everything unfortunate that happened to Price was Sark's fault.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Since when did you become such a Doog for Sark?RoadDawg55 said:Easier said than done to get JC lineman to UW. We don't have much success at all getting them. The one OL Sark did sign in 2009 was a JC guy who never got in.
What college coach has multiple successful NFL QB's? David Cutcliffe with the Manning brothers is the only one. After him, I will be waiting. Give me some college coaches with more. I'll bet Sven's $1,000,000 you won't come up with any.
One of Sark's biggest problems is all he cares about is the QB, star WR's, and maybe a stud RB. He doesn't care about the big picture. He doesn't care about having strong, dominant lines, great special teams, and discipline. Of course he wants those, but he doesn't put in the necessary work or emphasize that stuff. If you are a QB, RB, or WR, he's a fine coach to play for. You will get your stats under him. He sucks at everything else. -
USC/Locker ran a pro style though. While those schools care about their current program than getting guys to the NFL. Most spread QB's until a few years ago weren't considered for the NFL since the NFL was strictly pro style.RoadDawg55 said:
There is no way to really know if that's true. With the talent USC put around those guys, I think you are probably right. I don't think Sark is a mastermind for getting those guys from USC or Locker to the NFL. Still, nobody else has done it. It's not like Florida, Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, and Michigan don't have 4 and 5 star QB's like USC did. Every QB they trot out is a 4 or 5 star and they have good talent around them too.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
That's not the main point I was making. My point is that anyone couldve gotten those QBs into the NFL. Their college success was a product of the USC Carrol-led juggernaut, not Sark saying, "bro, throw a tighter spiral next time, man!"RoadDawg55 said:
What college coach has multiple successful NFL QB's? David Cutcliffe with the Manning brothers is the only one. After him, I will be waiting. Give me some college coaches with more. I'll bet Sven's $1,000,000 you won't come up with any.
hth
I remember Tressel saying on Pryor his job is to win games not prepare one kid out of 85 for the NFL. That statement was made in 2010 when Sark was more worried about preparing one kid out of 85 to the NFL than the team.