Who’s gonna tell him?

backthepack said:

MikeSeaver said:

backthepack said:

NorthwestFresh said:

pawz said:

DJDuck said:

Hypocrites. Washington had two 3 star Oregon kids starting on the OL last year I believe Hilbers from Beaverton and Kirkland from Jesuit. Oregon offered neither.

ffs .. Just because Kirkland went to Jesuit doesn't mean he's an "Oregon" kid. Christ.

It literally mean he’s an “Oregon kid” in terms of recruiting. I did forget how pathetically jealous Doogs are of the Ducks.

Husky board blah blah blah

Thx for Elijah Molden btw 😉

Las Vegas Bowl champion Elijah Molden?

He’d be your best player hth

backthepack said:

You’re using old man stats? Yuck. I trust Jimmy Lake DBs over Avalos/Hayward (yuck) guys. Elijah has been the better college guy and he’ll definitely test better than Holland. Both will be good NFL guys.

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

ntxduck said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

creepycoug said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

Fuck whoever said they didn’t want Elijah Molden.
(Hoping I never said that)
I knew Molden was going to be great in college. I saw him play against my Rams in the state title game. ‘Play against’ is a euphemism for repeatedly rape. That CC team had Lamar Winston, Brady Breeze, Lamar Winston’s brother, and a handful of lower D1 scholarship types.

Molden just looked special. There are a few guys you see play live and you know they’re different. Even in high school where every three star can look like Barry Sanders or Ed Reed some are just several notches above.

Molden has lived up to expectations. I’d bet he could play RB and be a lot better than Kamari Pleasant. If I had to pick between Molden and Jevon Holland it would be a no brainer. It’s Jevon Holland. Assuming Holland would actually play, but I can’t fault someone who graduated for bailing on his friends and teammates instead of risking that NFL money.

They're somewhat different players. Both tackle really well in space.

I felt that was worth mentioning, but since I already tend to drone on I didn’t. With Oregon’s depleted secondary Molden would be playing the same position Holland did last year, that nickel back spot Avalos uses in his retarded-when-it-fails-genius-when-it-works 3-3-5. Not because that’s where Molden belongs but because he could excel there for that very reason: tackling.

Holland’s replacement Jamal Hill has actually been pretty decent, he was out for the boover game most likely with the Rona tracing. But Hill has blown some tackles or opportunities that would have been losses or short gains. Last week they used Pickett there for a half until he got hurt, and once even he was out then OSU really lit them up.

I’d think Molden runs a faster 40 than Holland, and has good instincts for the ball flight path. Holland should be drafted ahead of him. In the NFL Hollans could be an elite run safety with decent to good coverage and the occasional big interception. Guys like him are becoming more valuable the more common huge WRs and high usage, pass catching TEs become.

Molden will test better and he has better tape. The size thing could knock him down a bit. But I’m pretty confident Elijah will be the better pro.

Of course. Doogy doo.

Holland is a stud. Better tape my ass. Have you ever watched Holland play?

Yeah he’s really good. There’s a reason why Molden has had a 90+ coverage grade the last 2 years though.

Ballz is back.

???

I’ll trust PFF grades by ex coaches/NFLers over creep evaluations.

Didn’t PFF have Holland rated higher than molden last year (answer: yes)

https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-pff-college-50-ranking-the-nations-top-50-players-ahead-of-the-2020-college-football-season

Fudgie is confident though.

#Ballz

creepycoug said:

ntxduck said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

creepycoug said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

Fuck whoever said they didn’t want Elijah Molden.
(Hoping I never said that)
I knew Molden was going to be great in college. I saw him play against my Rams in the state title game. ‘Play against’ is a euphemism for repeatedly rape. That CC team had Lamar Winston, Brady Breeze, Lamar Winston’s brother, and a handful of lower D1 scholarship types.

Molden just looked special. There are a few guys you see play live and you know they’re different. Even in high school where every three star can look like Barry Sanders or Ed Reed some are just several notches above.

Molden has lived up to expectations. I’d bet he could play RB and be a lot better than Kamari Pleasant. If I had to pick between Molden and Jevon Holland it would be a no brainer. It’s Jevon Holland. Assuming Holland would actually play, but I can’t fault someone who graduated for bailing on his friends and teammates instead of risking that NFL money.

They're somewhat different players. Both tackle really well in space.

I felt that was worth mentioning, but since I already tend to drone on I didn’t. With Oregon’s depleted secondary Molden would be playing the same position Holland did last year, that nickel back spot Avalos uses in his retarded-when-it-fails-genius-when-it-works 3-3-5. Not because that’s where Molden belongs but because he could excel there for that very reason: tackling.

Holland’s replacement Jamal Hill has actually been pretty decent, he was out for the boover game most likely with the Rona tracing. But Hill has blown some tackles or opportunities that would have been losses or short gains. Last week they used Pickett there for a half until he got hurt, and once even he was out then OSU really lit them up.

I’d think Molden runs a faster 40 than Holland, and has good instincts for the ball flight path. Holland should be drafted ahead of him. In the NFL Hollans could be an elite run safety with decent to good coverage and the occasional big interception. Guys like him are becoming more valuable the more common huge WRs and high usage, pass catching TEs become.

Molden will test better and he has better tape. The size thing could knock him down a bit. But I’m pretty confident Elijah will be the better pro.

Of course. Doogy doo.

Holland is a stud. Better tape my ass. Have you ever watched Holland play?

Yeah he’s really good. There’s a reason why Molden has had a 90+ coverage grade the last 2 years though.

Ballz is back.

???

I’ll trust PFF grades by ex coaches/NFLers over creep evaluations.

Didn’t PFF have Holland rated higher than molden last year (answer: yes)

https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-pff-college-50-ranking-the-nations-top-50-players-ahead-of-the-2020-college-football-season

Fudgie is confident though.

#Ballz

You’re wrong.

12>21

Did they teach math at Colorado State?

And Fr. Wright > Holland. Lolz.

Molden and Holland had the same amount of snaps. Molden’s grade was 9 points higher. Hope this helps!

backthepack said:

You’re using old man stats? Yuck. I trust Jimmy Lake DBs over Avalos/Hayward (yuck) guys. Elijah has been the better college guy and he’ll definitely test better than Holland. Both will be good NFL guys.

RatherBeBrewing said:

backthepack said:

You’re using old man stats? Yuck. I trust Jimmy Lake DBs over Avalos/Hayward (yuck) guys. Elijah has been the better college guy and he’ll definitely test better than Holland. Both will be good NFL guys.

Est ce pour moi?

If that was for me: I’m not trying to show you their stats, I’m showing you what NFL draft people think of who will be drafted where and who they rank as better NFL prospects. It’s not even close.

Once again: Even if Molden is better in college it doesn’t mean he will be drafted before Holland. But a lot of people, like 99% of them, who don’t give a fuck about this rivalry think Holland will be drafted before Molden by a significant difference.

Thomas Graham was better than Lenoir. When (if?) Graham gets drafted it will probably be after Lenoir.

WilburHooksHands said:

after checking back in on this thread my work here is done

backthepack said:

Mykel Wright has a 69.4 pff grade.

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

ntxduck said:

backthepack said:

ntxduck said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

ntxduck said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

creepycoug said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

Fuck whoever said they didn’t want Elijah Molden.
(Hoping I never said that)
I knew Molden was going to be great in college. I saw him play against my Rams in the state title game. ‘Play against’ is a euphemism for repeatedly rape. That CC team had Lamar Winston, Brady Breeze, Lamar Winston’s brother, and a handful of lower D1 scholarship types.

Molden just looked special. There are a few guys you see play live and you know they’re different. Even in high school where every three star can look like Barry Sanders or Ed Reed some are just several notches above.

Molden has lived up to expectations. I’d bet he could play RB and be a lot better than Kamari Pleasant. If I had to pick between Molden and Jevon Holland it would be a no brainer. It’s Jevon Holland. Assuming Holland would actually play, but I can’t fault someone who graduated for bailing on his friends and teammates instead of risking that NFL money.

They're somewhat different players. Both tackle really well in space.

I felt that was worth mentioning, but since I already tend to drone on I didn’t. With Oregon’s depleted secondary Molden would be playing the same position Holland did last year, that nickel back spot Avalos uses in his retarded-when-it-fails-genius-when-it-works 3-3-5. Not because that’s where Molden belongs but because he could excel there for that very reason: tackling.

Holland’s replacement Jamal Hill has actually been pretty decent, he was out for the boover game most likely with the Rona tracing. But Hill has blown some tackles or opportunities that would have been losses or short gains. Last week they used Pickett there for a half until he got hurt, and once even he was out then OSU really lit them up.

I’d think Molden runs a faster 40 than Holland, and has good instincts for the ball flight path. Holland should be drafted ahead of him. In the NFL Hollans could be an elite run safety with decent to good coverage and the occasional big interception. Guys like him are becoming more valuable the more common huge WRs and high usage, pass catching TEs become.

Molden will test better and he has better tape. The size thing could knock him down a bit. But I’m pretty confident Elijah will be the better pro.

Of course. Doogy doo.

Holland is a stud. Better tape my ass. Have you ever watched Holland play?

Yeah he’s really good. There’s a reason why Molden has had a 90+ coverage grade the last 2 years though.

Ballz is back.

???

I’ll trust PFF grades by ex coaches/NFLers over creep evaluations.

Didn’t PFF have Holland rated higher than molden last year (answer: yes)

https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-pff-college-50-ranking-the-nations-top-50-players-ahead-of-the-2020-college-football-season

Fudgie is confident though.

#Ballz

creepycoug said:

ntxduck said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

creepycoug said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

Fuck whoever said they didn’t want Elijah Molden.
(Hoping I never said that)
I knew Molden was going to be great in college. I saw him play against my Rams in the state title game. ‘Play against’ is a euphemism for repeatedly rape. That CC team had Lamar Winston, Brady Breeze, Lamar Winston’s brother, and a handful of lower D1 scholarship types.

Molden just looked special. There are a few guys you see play live and you know they’re different. Even in high school where every three star can look like Barry Sanders or Ed Reed some are just several notches above.

Molden has lived up to expectations. I’d bet he could play RB and be a lot better than Kamari Pleasant. If I had to pick between Molden and Jevon Holland it would be a no brainer. It’s Jevon Holland. Assuming Holland would actually play, but I can’t fault someone who graduated for bailing on his friends and teammates instead of risking that NFL money.

They're somewhat different players. Both tackle really well in space.

I felt that was worth mentioning, but since I already tend to drone on I didn’t. With Oregon’s depleted secondary Molden would be playing the same position Holland did last year, that nickel back spot Avalos uses in his retarded-when-it-fails-genius-when-it-works 3-3-5. Not because that’s where Molden belongs but because he could excel there for that very reason: tackling.

Holland’s replacement Jamal Hill has actually been pretty decent, he was out for the boover game most likely with the Rona tracing. But Hill has blown some tackles or opportunities that would have been losses or short gains. Last week they used Pickett there for a half until he got hurt, and once even he was out then OSU really lit them up.

I’d think Molden runs a faster 40 than Holland, and has good instincts for the ball flight path. Holland should be drafted ahead of him. In the NFL Hollans could be an elite run safety with decent to good coverage and the occasional big interception. Guys like him are becoming more valuable the more common huge WRs and high usage, pass catching TEs become.

Molden will test better and he has better tape. The size thing could knock him down a bit. But I’m pretty confident Elijah will be the better pro.

Of course. Doogy doo.

Holland is a stud. Better tape my ass. Have you ever watched Holland play?

Yeah he’s really good. There’s a reason why Molden has had a 90+ coverage grade the last 2 years though.

Ballz is back.

???

I’ll trust PFF grades by ex coaches/NFLers over creep evaluations.

Didn’t PFF have Holland rated higher than molden last year (answer: yes)

https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-pff-college-50-ranking-the-nations-top-50-players-ahead-of-the-2020-college-football-season

Fudgie is confident though.

#Ballz

You’re wrong.

12>21

Did they teach math at Colorado State?

And Fr. Wright > Holland. Lolz.

Molden and Holland had the same amount of snaps. Molden’s grade was 9 points higher. Hope this helps!

Why’d they rank Holland higher than overall?

Potential/projected grades for this year.

So ex coaches/nflers think Holland will be the better pro?

No. Molden graded better? That article is put together by 1 person, we sucked last year and oregon didn’t. That plays apart as well.

Same org. Team success is irrelvant in ranking players. Prove it or eat it.

Molden graded out better than Holland in 2019.


Nice quintuple poast dude

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

ntxduck said:

backthepack said:

ntxduck said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

ntxduck said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

creepycoug said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

Fuck whoever said they didn’t want Elijah Molden.
(Hoping I never said that)
I knew Molden was going to be great in college. I saw him play against my Rams in the state title game. ‘Play against’ is a euphemism for repeatedly rape. That CC team had Lamar Winston, Brady Breeze, Lamar Winston’s brother, and a handful of lower D1 scholarship types.

Molden just looked special. There are a few guys you see play live and you know they’re different. Even in high school where every three star can look like Barry Sanders or Ed Reed some are just several notches above.

Molden has lived up to expectations. I’d bet he could play RB and be a lot better than Kamari Pleasant. If I had to pick between Molden and Jevon Holland it would be a no brainer. It’s Jevon Holland. Assuming Holland would actually play, but I can’t fault someone who graduated for bailing on his friends and teammates instead of risking that NFL money.

They're somewhat different players. Both tackle really well in space.

I felt that was worth mentioning, but since I already tend to drone on I didn’t. With Oregon’s depleted secondary Molden would be playing the same position Holland did last year, that nickel back spot Avalos uses in his retarded-when-it-fails-genius-when-it-works 3-3-5. Not because that’s where Molden belongs but because he could excel there for that very reason: tackling.

Holland’s replacement Jamal Hill has actually been pretty decent, he was out for the boover game most likely with the Rona tracing. But Hill has blown some tackles or opportunities that would have been losses or short gains. Last week they used Pickett there for a half until he got hurt, and once even he was out then OSU really lit them up.

I’d think Molden runs a faster 40 than Holland, and has good instincts for the ball flight path. Holland should be drafted ahead of him. In the NFL Hollans could be an elite run safety with decent to good coverage and the occasional big interception. Guys like him are becoming more valuable the more common huge WRs and high usage, pass catching TEs become.

Molden will test better and he has better tape. The size thing could knock him down a bit. But I’m pretty confident Elijah will be the better pro.

Of course. Doogy doo.

Holland is a stud. Better tape my ass. Have you ever watched Holland play?

Yeah he’s really good. There’s a reason why Molden has had a 90+ coverage grade the last 2 years though.

Ballz is back.

???

I’ll trust PFF grades by ex coaches/NFLers over creep evaluations.

Didn’t PFF have Holland rated higher than molden last year (answer: yes)

https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-pff-college-50-ranking-the-nations-top-50-players-ahead-of-the-2020-college-football-season

Fudgie is confident though.

#Ballz

creepycoug said:

ntxduck said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

creepycoug said:

backthepack said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

creepycoug said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

Fuck whoever said they didn’t want Elijah Molden.
(Hoping I never said that)
I knew Molden was going to be great in college. I saw him play against my Rams in the state title game. ‘Play against’ is a euphemism for repeatedly rape. That CC team had Lamar Winston, Brady Breeze, Lamar Winston’s brother, and a handful of lower D1 scholarship types.

Molden just looked special. There are a few guys you see play live and you know they’re different. Even in high school where every three star can look like Barry Sanders or Ed Reed some are just several notches above.

Molden has lived up to expectations. I’d bet he could play RB and be a lot better than Kamari Pleasant. If I had to pick between Molden and Jevon Holland it would be a no brainer. It’s Jevon Holland. Assuming Holland would actually play, but I can’t fault someone who graduated for bailing on his friends and teammates instead of risking that NFL money.

They're somewhat different players. Both tackle really well in space.

I felt that was worth mentioning, but since I already tend to drone on I didn’t. With Oregon’s depleted secondary Molden would be playing the same position Holland did last year, that nickel back spot Avalos uses in his retarded-when-it-fails-genius-when-it-works 3-3-5. Not because that’s where Molden belongs but because he could excel there for that very reason: tackling.

Holland’s replacement Jamal Hill has actually been pretty decent, he was out for the boover game most likely with the Rona tracing. But Hill has blown some tackles or opportunities that would have been losses or short gains. Last week they used Pickett there for a half until he got hurt, and once even he was out then OSU really lit them up.

I’d think Molden runs a faster 40 than Holland, and has good instincts for the ball flight path. Holland should be drafted ahead of him. In the NFL Hollans could be an elite run safety with decent to good coverage and the occasional big interception. Guys like him are becoming more valuable the more common huge WRs and high usage, pass catching TEs become.

Molden will test better and he has better tape. The size thing could knock him down a bit. But I’m pretty confident Elijah will be the better pro.

Of course. Doogy doo.

Holland is a stud. Better tape my ass. Have you ever watched Holland play?

Yeah he’s really good. There’s a reason why Molden has had a 90+ coverage grade the last 2 years though.

Ballz is back.

???

I’ll trust PFF grades by ex coaches/NFLers over creep evaluations.

Didn’t PFF have Holland rated higher than molden last year (answer: yes)

https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-pff-college-50-ranking-the-nations-top-50-players-ahead-of-the-2020-college-football-season

Fudgie is confident though.

#Ballz

You’re wrong.

12>21

Did they teach math at Colorado State?

And Fr. Wright > Holland. Lolz.

Molden and Holland had the same amount of snaps. Molden’s grade was 9 points higher. Hope this helps!

Why’d they rank Holland higher than overall?

Potential/projected grades for this year.

So ex coaches/nflers think Holland will be the better pro?

No. Molden graded better? That article is put together by 1 person, we sucked last year and oregon didn’t. That plays apart as well.

Same org. Team success is irrelvant in ranking players. Prove it or eat it.

Molden graded out better than Holland in 2019.


Nice quintuple poast dude

CJ Verdell doesn’t break tackles.

Lol

dnc said:

Holland is the one Oregon DB I would have gladly taken the past few years. I wanted him badly during TBS season and was bummed when he started leaning Oregon. He was a great player pretty much from day one for them.

I think Holland gets drafted higher because he projects at safety at the next level while Molden more likely be seen as a nickel corner. Both are going to be really good at the next level.

UW's DBs with Holland starting at either safety last year over Williams would have been just a massive upgrade and pretty much unfair.

RatherBeBrewing said:

backthepack said:

ntxduck said:

backthepack said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

creepycoug said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

Fuck whoever said they didn’t want Elijah Molden.
(Hoping I never said that)
I knew Molden was going to be great in college. I saw him play against my Rams in the state title game. ‘Play against’ is a euphemism for repeatedly rape. That CC team had Lamar Winston, Brady Breeze, Lamar Winston’s brother, and a handful of lower D1 scholarship types.

Molden just looked special. There are a few guys you see play live and you know they’re different. Even in high school where every three star can look like Barry Sanders or Ed Reed some are just several notches above.

Molden has lived up to expectations. I’d bet he could play RB and be a lot better than Kamari Pleasant. If I had to pick between Molden and Jevon Holland it would be a no brainer. It’s Jevon Holland. Assuming Holland would actually play, but I can’t fault someone who graduated for bailing on his friends and teammates instead of risking that NFL money.

They're somewhat different players. Both tackle really well in space.

I felt that was worth mentioning, but since I already tend to drone on I didn’t. With Oregon’s depleted secondary Molden would be playing the same position Holland did last year, that nickel back spot Avalos uses in his retarded-when-it-fails-genius-when-it-works 3-3-5. Not because that’s where Molden belongs but because he could excel there for that very reason: tackling.

Holland’s replacement Jamal Hill has actually been pretty decent, he was out for the boover game most likely with the Rona tracing. But Hill has blown some tackles or opportunities that would have been losses or short gains. Last week they used Pickett there for a half until he got hurt, and once even he was out then OSU really lit them up.

I’d think Molden runs a faster 40 than Holland, and has good instincts for the ball flight path. Holland should be drafted ahead of him. In the NFL Hollans could be an elite run safety with decent to good coverage and the occasional big interception. Guys like him are becoming more valuable the more common huge WRs and high usage, pass catching TEs become.

Molden will test better and he has better tape. The size thing could knock him down a bit. But I’m pretty confident Elijah will be the better pro.

No

Yes. Elijah is Budda. Budda’s the highest paid safety in the NFL. Elijah has versatile to play every spot in the secondary.

This is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen you write in quite some time.

Their similarities are that they’re Washington DBs with similar size. Baker’s game and Molden’s game are very different. There is not a single person who would compare them if they didn’t go to the same school.

Tyler Shough is Justin Herbert. Both are over 6’4” and played at Oregon. I can barely tell the difference at times.

I have nothing bad to say about Molden, hope he gets drafted as high as he can. It’s all the NFL draft and anything is possible this early on. Even after the combine and interviews. I would be very surprised if Holland doesn’t get drafted before Molden.

The mock draft database has like 130 mocks and 40 big boards to create a consensus one. Not going to be right on or even close for every player but gives you an idea of where they stand. Once again, this isn’t a single analyst or scout or mock draft loser but the consensus from all of them.




You can disagree with who the better player is. The better college player doesn’t always get drafted earlier or do better in the NFL. I think Holland is better, and I have no issue admitting when an Oregon player isn’t.