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  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.

    If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
    A world could exist where we be better without bob
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 27,084 Swaye's Wigwam
    FireCohen said:

    A world could exist where we be better without bob
    Absolutely agree. Im not ready to fire his ass yet. In fact, LB looks like it has a bright future especially if fucking Jackson Sirmon can make a sack
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 27,084 Swaye's Wigwam

    Its almost like "doogs" were complaining about the recruiting of his predecessor for years and Olinemen that are physically ready to play year one are exceedingly rare. How does Huff's line look this year?


    You are such a concrete thinker its probably why you love the "LIPO" philosophy.

    The line has looked fine against beav ute and coot in 3 home games. Crown there ass when they dont get ragdolled by a physical team away from the friendly confines of huskeieieie stadium

    That said they look a lot fucking better
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827

    This is a recruiting doog through and through cop out answer. Huff has been here long enough to have that be a bullshit excuse.

    If you want to talk differences in scheme I'll listen, but that is a fucking doog answer. If the predecessors guys werent good in year 3 then play the guys you recruited
    Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.

    It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.

    We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.

    The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.

  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 27,084 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    Except those who followed recruiting forecast the OL was going to have a big drop-off and wouldn't you know it, they were right.

    It's not just recruiting but recruiting does matter.

    We ran for 182 yards on 34 carries versus Cal and 104 on 19 carries versus Stanford. The OL didn't lose those games.

    The OL wasn't good but it was significantly better than the LBs last year.

    @racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on this

    The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.

    Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827

    @racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on this

    The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.

    Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
    Sacks are more of a QB stat than an OL stat which has born out as all of a sudden there are no sacks.

    It's my favorite thing about Morris, btw.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 27,084 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    Sacks are more of a QB stat than an OL stat which has born out as all of a sudden there are no sacks.

    It's my favorite thing about Morris, btw.
    Hard disagree.

    If that were the case Russ would never get sacked, but the Hawks line has sucked in pass pro for years and one of the most elusive pocket QBs still get sacked.

    Its 81% line 19% qb
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,660 Founders Club

    @racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on this

    The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.

    Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
    See the last two Oregon games

    They ran when we knew they would and couldn't run when we had to

    It looks better this year. If results match the talent we think we have we should good to go
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827

    See the last two Oregon games

    They ran when we knew they would and couldn't run when we had to

    It looks better this year. If results match the talent we think we have we should good to go
    Hi there, we ran all over Oregon when it mattered in 2018. Pete just wouldn't let them finish the job.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 27,084 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    Sack numbers remain more static for QBs that switch teams than for OLs who switch QBs. This has proven out over long stretches of time. It's about 60-40 QB-OL or 65-35. The OL obviously plays a part.

    Russ is a gambler that takes a lot of sacks. It's my least favorite thing about him. The OL has improved significantly this year but he's still taking a lot of sacks.
    Maybe, show me @thechart on your first point

    And it's not like sacks are the only pass pro stat. Pressures, hurries, etc.

    Bottom line is the only year the pass pro has been great was 2016, with HUGE asterisks for more talented bama and usc teams where they got annihilated
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827

    Maybe, show me @thechart on your first point

    And it's not like sacks are the only pass pro stat. Pressures, hurries, etc.

    Bottom line is the only year the pass pro has been great was 2016, with HUGE asterisks for more talented bama and usc teams where they got annihilated
    It's pretty widely known if you dig into stats at all. Here's one article on it with links inside to a bunch of others.

    https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/sacks-are-a-quarterback-stat-01dxqapkgvw9
  • FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    @racebannon preached this same point and can back me up on this

    The line did fine run blocking until they absolutely had to get a yard in 3rd or 4th and short. Then they fucking sucked.

    Pass pro was an abomination made worse by a statue of a QB, but has never been good
    The best way to be successful on 3rd or 4th and short...is not to end up in 3rd or 4th and short.

    Our "power success rate" (3rd/4th and 2 or less to go) was 71.4% or 67th in the nation. Mediocre at best but not a killer- some terrible teams are ranked in the top ten and some good teams were worse than us (Minnesota, Oregon, Notre Dame, Utah.)
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,660 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Hi there, we ran all over Oregon when it mattered in 2018. Pete just wouldn't let them finish the job.
    Losers lose.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 27,084 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    It's pretty widely known if you dig into stats at all. Here's one article on it with links inside to a bunch of others.

    https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/sacks-are-a-quarterback-stat-01dxqapkgvw9
    Youre starting to sound like Chest with this metrics shit.

    That article was mildly intersting but ends with him saying he needs more stats and graphs and linear regressions.

    Ive played and watched enough football to know shitty pass pro when I see it.

  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827

    Maybe, show me @thechart on your first point

    And it's not like sacks are the only pass pro stat. Pressures, hurries, etc.

    Bottom line is the only year the pass pro has been great was 2016, with HUGE asterisks for more talented bama and usc teams where they got annihilated
    And we had two consistently jittery QBs who tried and failed to extend plays and took tons of sacks. All this despite two different OL coaches and a slew of different OL in that tim period.

    This year we don't and the sacks are gone.

    Either Huff suddenly figure it out or we got rid of the pants shitting QBs. As much as I'd like to credit Huff (who I think is good), the addition by subtraction behind CENTER combined with addition by addition with Morris is the biggest factor.
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