Election
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The rats have taken Shitcago tactics to the whole country. Thanks Barry!Doog_de_Jour said:
You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.HHusky said:
Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.Doog_de_Jour said:
That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.HHusky said:
Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.Doog_de_Jour said:I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.
2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.
Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.
Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.
Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:
Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.) -
They see and report things. Were you expecting them to say Joe was there directing it?HHusky said:
As between us, I’d guess I’m the only one who’s tried to read any of them. Lots of whine; little beef.Sledog said:
I know you're supposedly a lawyer but aren't a large number of affidavits evidence? Of course they are.HHusky said:
People who go to court without evidence of their claims aren't letting it play out. They're making it up.BleachedAnusDawg said:
You won't even LIPO to determine if the claims are baseless. You want to silence whistleblowers. If someone states they were a victim of the crime the police investigate the claims.HHusky said:
Baseless claims of election fraud do the trick as well. How much of this bullshit has to blow up in your faces before you realize that if Daddy’s lawyers had something, they wouldn’t be shy about showing it to a judge?BleachedAnusDawg said:
I agree, and people that laughingly say this is GOP paranoia or QAnon stuff don't understand that the deeper issue here for many, myself included, is not that there's a potential that the outcome of the election could change based on uncovering fraud. The election is over and the result is not changing.Sledog said:My .02 cents.
The election is important. What's more important is election cheating and fraud. If we no longer have elections we can trust we are finished. If the ones doing the fraud win they will certainly put more cheats in to hold power while they are in office. That many cheer them on means our country is fucked long term. That many here think that's good tells me we have a massive number of uneducated dumbfucks. Both lead to our country being screwed long term. If our country is done so is the constitution and all protections it provides the citizen from government actions. You will never see anything like it again.
We know for a fact that a program has switched votes for one candidate to the other. Michigan admitted it. The same system and software are in use all over the country and notably every state that is in question. We will NEVER have a fair election again if we do not root this shit out.
If you disagree you can fuck off!
Elections fraud - even on a small scale of a thousand votes - undermines the fundamentals of our democracy. We may as well become Venezuela if people are okay with a little bit of fraud because it means their guy won / Trump lost. People need to have confidence in the system or the system collapses.
Put a different way, do you really want to go through life being in the some of the people who get fooled all of the time camp? -
Or when they refuse to let republican poll watchers in to watch the count. What reason could there be such a thing? Even when they had a court order. Yeah but they're not up to anything trust 'em!.............................................RaceBannon said:
The federal government doesn't run electionsRedRocket said:
True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.RaceBannon said:
States refused to cooperateRedRocket said:
Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.Doog_de_Jour said:
You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.HHusky said:
Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.Doog_de_Jour said:
That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.HHusky said:
Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.Doog_de_Jour said:I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.
2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.
Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.
Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.
Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:
Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud
And then claim there isn't any
But Trump -
I hear Willingham banned observers from practice because they were just so perfect
It’s what I was told -
Neither party was allowed an unlimited number of poll watchers. Rooms have a capacity, you know.Sledog said:
Or when they refuse to let republican poll watchers in to watch the count. What reason could there be such a thing? Even when they had a court order. Yeah but they're not up to anything trust 'em!.............................................RaceBannon said:
The federal government doesn't run electionsRedRocket said:
True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.RaceBannon said:
States refused to cooperateRedRocket said:
Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.Doog_de_Jour said:
You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.HHusky said:
Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.Doog_de_Jour said:
That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.HHusky said:
Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.Doog_de_Jour said:I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.
2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.
Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.
Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.
Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:
Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud
And then claim there isn't any
But Trump -
Well, if the objective in all that voluminous dreck was to hide some compelling nugget of testimony from the judge, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!Sledog said:
They see and report things. Were you expecting them to say Joe was there directing it?HHusky said:
As between us, I’d guess I’m the only one who’s tried to read any of them. Lots of whine; little beef.Sledog said:
I know you're supposedly a lawyer but aren't a large number of affidavits evidence? Of course they are.HHusky said:
People who go to court without evidence of their claims aren't letting it play out. They're making it up.BleachedAnusDawg said:
You won't even LIPO to determine if the claims are baseless. You want to silence whistleblowers. If someone states they were a victim of the crime the police investigate the claims.HHusky said:
Baseless claims of election fraud do the trick as well. How much of this bullshit has to blow up in your faces before you realize that if Daddy’s lawyers had something, they wouldn’t be shy about showing it to a judge?BleachedAnusDawg said:
I agree, and people that laughingly say this is GOP paranoia or QAnon stuff don't understand that the deeper issue here for many, myself included, is not that there's a potential that the outcome of the election could change based on uncovering fraud. The election is over and the result is not changing.Sledog said:My .02 cents.
The election is important. What's more important is election cheating and fraud. If we no longer have elections we can trust we are finished. If the ones doing the fraud win they will certainly put more cheats in to hold power while they are in office. That many cheer them on means our country is fucked long term. That many here think that's good tells me we have a massive number of uneducated dumbfucks. Both lead to our country being screwed long term. If our country is done so is the constitution and all protections it provides the citizen from government actions. You will never see anything like it again.
We know for a fact that a program has switched votes for one candidate to the other. Michigan admitted it. The same system and software are in use all over the country and notably every state that is in question. We will NEVER have a fair election again if we do not root this shit out.
If you disagree you can fuck off!
Elections fraud - even on a small scale of a thousand votes - undermines the fundamentals of our democracy. We may as well become Venezuela if people are okay with a little bit of fraud because it means their guy won / Trump lost. People need to have confidence in the system or the system collapses.
Put a different way, do you really want to go through life being in the some of the people who get fooled all of the time camp? -
I wish I could a fly on the wall at HH tofurkey TG dinner
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He didn’t claim that at all but you’re a pathological liar so I guess it’s OK.HHusky said:
Neither party was allowed an unlimited number of poll watchers. Rooms have a capacity, you know.Sledog said:
Or when they refuse to let republican poll watchers in to watch the count. What reason could there be such a thing? Even when they had a court order. Yeah but they're not up to anything trust 'em!.............................................RaceBannon said:
The federal government doesn't run electionsRedRocket said:
True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.RaceBannon said:
States refused to cooperateRedRocket said:
Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.Doog_de_Jour said:
You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.HHusky said:
Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.Doog_de_Jour said:
That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.HHusky said:
Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.Doog_de_Jour said:I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.
2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.
Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.
Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.
Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:
Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud
And then claim there isn't any
But Trump -
LoneStarDawg said:
I wish I could a fly on the wall at HH tofurkey TG dinner
He’s claimed in the past that they discuss abortion over Thanksgiving dinner. Quite the winner. Probably lied about it but it does say a lot about him either way. -
It’s frightening somebody would blatantly lie as easily as this...HHusky said:
Neither party was allowed an unlimited number of poll watchers. Rooms have a capacity, you know.Sledog said:
Or when they refuse to let republican poll watchers in to watch the count. What reason could there be such a thing? Even when they had a court order. Yeah but they're not up to anything trust 'em!.............................................RaceBannon said:
The federal government doesn't run electionsRedRocket said:
True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.RaceBannon said:
States refused to cooperateRedRocket said:
Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.Doog_de_Jour said:
You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.HHusky said:
Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.Doog_de_Jour said:
That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.HHusky said:
Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.Doog_de_Jour said:I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.
2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.
Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.
Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.
Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:
Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud
And then claim there isn't any
But Trump
