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  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    I didn’t realize Trump had done that. Why was it abandoned?
    Don't buy into the Sarah Huckabee Sanders talking point.

    Trump established the Commission because he was unwilling to admit that he lost the popular vote. The Commision's purpose was to try to dig up evidence to support his 3m illegals voted claim.

    The Commission requested voting data from the States which it knew it would have trouble legally obtaining in the first place. Some states outright refused. Others provided paired down versions of what the Commission requested.

    The Commission disbanded because it was going to have to go to court and it couldn't make a case based on a fishing expedition. Blaming it on the States was the easier route than actually proving wide spread voter fraud.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,541 Founders Club
    The states have the data but still

    More excuses but the moderates are convinced it will get fixed
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,336

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,540 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
    HHusky said:

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
    You're correct. It didn't happen. The proper legal observation of the counting of ballots, that is. But you already know that.



  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,336

    HHusky said:

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
    HHusky said:

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
    You're correct. It didn't happen. The proper legal observation of the counting of ballots, that is. But you already know that.



    Link?
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter

    The states have the data but still

    More excuses but the moderates are convinced it will get fixed

    I can’t speak for all moderates, but I don’t think it will ever get “fixed”.

    Elections, like many other parts of government, is evolving and people are going to try to constantly game the system. It’s like software and computer viruses, you need to be making constant improvement and deploying patches.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,540 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
    HHusky said:

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
    You're correct. It didn't happen. The proper legal observation of the counting of ballots, that is. But you already know that.



    Link?
    Your google broken? Don't be a lazy ass. Show some initiative.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,336

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
    HHusky said:

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
    You're correct. It didn't happen. The proper legal observation of the counting of ballots, that is. But you already know that.



    Link?
    Your google broken? Don't be a lazy ass. Show some initiative.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/philadelphia-republican-observers-vote-count/2020/11/06/982385ac-2055-11eb-ba21-f2f001f0554b_story.html?outputType=amp
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,540 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
    HHusky said:

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
    You're correct. It didn't happen. The proper legal observation of the counting of ballots, that is. But you already know that.



    Link?
    Your google broken? Don't be a lazy ass. Show some initiative.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/philadelphia-republican-observers-vote-count/2020/11/06/982385ac-2055-11eb-ba21-f2f001f0554b_story.html?outputType=amp
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=observers+philadelphia+voting&ru=/videos/search?q=observers+philadelphia+voting&FORM=HDRSC3&view=detail&mid=2C49C696895FFA67FED42C49C696895FFA67FED4&&FORM=VDRVSR

    Even @GrandpaSankey prefers video over someone's printed report.

    Turn up the volume.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,336

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
    HHusky said:

    Gee look at the leftists not wanting to look into fraud. Ever.

    But I'm sure it will better next time

    Judge: Well do you have any evidence of fraud

    HHusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I’m really getting exhausted about this voter fraud talk not because I think it’s a hoax, or even the bickering over how widespread it is, but because it should be a bipartisan issue.

    2016, Dems screamed cheating, now in 2020 the Republicans are screaming the same thing.

    Until both parties do something meaningful to improve the process and not just when their candidate loses, I find it hard to sympathize.

    Nobody has the moral high ground here. Fix it politicians or STFU.

    Dems screamed about foreign influence on the vote. Not remotely the same as this.
    That was certainly part of it, but they also pointed out long lines at the polls/voter suppression, especially in heavily Democratic areas.
    Suppression is also a different claim than saying the votes cast were fraudulent.
    You are correct. But while they’re different they are all symptoms of same disease.

    Here’s something I forgot about, which is interesting, *Trump* claimed voter fraud in 2016:



    Again, this why I’m getting fed up with this. Republicans had four years to try to fix things. (But then again maybe they tried, CNN and Co. certainly wouldn’t report on it.)
    Trump set up the Voting Integrity commission. It disbanded because it didn't find any wide spread evidence of voter fraud. He had his chance and it went nowhere.
    States refused to cooperate
    True but the lack of state cooperation was as bipartisan as it gets. One thing I'll say about Trump is that he isn't a quitter but in this case his Voting Integrity Commission disbanded the moment there was a wiff of opposition.
    The federal government doesn't run elections

    Most people would see a red flag when states refuse to look into fraud

    And then claim there isn't any

    But Trump
    States look into fraud and both parties have people observing. Other than that, great poast.
    Unless only one side observes.

    Like in PA and Michigan.
    Didn’t happen, but I suspect you know that.
    You're correct. It didn't happen. The proper legal observation of the counting of ballots, that is. But you already know that.



    Link?
    Your google broken? Don't be a lazy ass. Show some initiative.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/philadelphia-republican-observers-vote-count/2020/11/06/982385ac-2055-11eb-ba21-f2f001f0554b_story.html?outputType=amp
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=observers+philadelphia+voting&ru=/videos/search?q=observers+philadelphia+voting&FORM=HDRSC3&view=detail&mid=2C49C696895FFA67FED42C49C696895FFA67FED4&&FORM=VDRVSR

    Even @GrandpaSankey prefers video over someone's printed report.

    Turn up the volume.

    It says it won’t play. But regardless, the issue is whether Republicans had observers, not whether every single person demanding entry was allowed in. This bullshit narrative about being barred from observing has already been debunked by Republicans who observed the counting.