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a play that needs to be discussed more is early in OT OKC up 2 Durant has an elbow jumper for a 4 point lead that would have been demoralizing for SA. CLANG! Ginobili comes back and ties it on the other end. That was a huge miss
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If Lebron does that in 2010-2012 twitter would have fucking exploded.
Shit twitter was melting down still when Lebron passed to an open teammate who is an all-star going for the win. -
People don't care about KD like they care about Bron. Bron's held to a higher standard, but he also has much more fanatical fans. KD's never been hailed as the greatest player of all time, so he gets away with a hell of a lot more.He_Needs_More_Time said:If Lebron does that in 2010-2012 twitter would have fucking exploded.
Shit twitter was melting down still when Lebron passed to an open teammate who is an all-star going for the win.
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I think in a way that could hurt Durant. Lebron was humbled in 2011 and the entire nation turned on him. He went back to the drawing board and spent the entire time in the summer working out with Olajuwon on post moves.dnc said:
People don't care about KD like they care about Bron. Bron's held to a higher standard, but he also has much more fanatical fans. KD's never been hailed as the greatest player of all time, so he gets away with a hell of a lot more.He_Needs_More_Time said:If Lebron does that in 2010-2012 twitter would have fucking exploded.
Shit twitter was melting down still when Lebron passed to an open teammate who is an all-star going for the win.
With no pressure on Durant will he finally look in the mirror and realize he needs to fix his game?
Just asking questions as I don't know the answer. I know also superstars receive way too much heat after tough playoff losses and 81% of the time they are the least of the problems.
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I know their games are different, but I kind of feel like Lebron is this generation's MJ and Durant is this generation's Wilkins. Everybody loved Wilkins, but everybody feared Jordan. I'm not sure many players fear Durant.He_Needs_More_Time said:
I think in a way that could hurt Durant. Lebron was humbled in 2011 and the entire nation turned on him. He went back to the drawing board and spent the entire time in the summer working out with Olajuwon on post moves.dnc said:
People don't care about KD like they care about Bron. Bron's held to a higher standard, but he also has much more fanatical fans. KD's never been hailed as the greatest player of all time, so he gets away with a hell of a lot more.He_Needs_More_Time said:If Lebron does that in 2010-2012 twitter would have fucking exploded.
Shit twitter was melting down still when Lebron passed to an open teammate who is an all-star going for the win.
With no pressure on Durant will he finally look in the mirror and realize he needs to fix his game?
Just asking questions as I don't know the answer. I know also superstars receive way too much heat after tough playoff losses and 81% of the time they are the least of the problems.
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You guys are the biggest Johnny-lately's. You probably said the same shit about LeBron. Do any of you actually believe Durant is never winning a championship. Hopefully, this is just the SoooperSoonic coming out. Dominique Wilkins, Cockus?
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Bill Simmons said yesterday "Could Durant and Westbrook be this generations Stockton and Malone to Lebron being MJ? You know the HOF duo in a small market who can't ever seem to get enough role players to get over the top. Role players don't travel on the road and Utah couldn't break through to the Finals until they finally got home court throughout the west for the first time."dnc said:
I know their games are different, but I kind of feel like Lebron is this generation's MJ and Durant is this generation's Wilkins. Everybody loved Wilkins, but everybody feared Jordan. I'm not sure many players fear Durant.He_Needs_More_Time said:
I think in a way that could hurt Durant. Lebron was humbled in 2011 and the entire nation turned on him. He went back to the drawing board and spent the entire time in the summer working out with Olajuwon on post moves.dnc said:
People don't care about KD like they care about Bron. Bron's held to a higher standard, but he also has much more fanatical fans. KD's never been hailed as the greatest player of all time, so he gets away with a hell of a lot more.He_Needs_More_Time said:If Lebron does that in 2010-2012 twitter would have fucking exploded.
Shit twitter was melting down still when Lebron passed to an open teammate who is an all-star going for the win.
With no pressure on Durant will he finally look in the mirror and realize he needs to fix his game?
Just asking questions as I don't know the answer. I know also superstars receive way too much heat after tough playoff losses and 81% of the time they are the least of the problems.
I never thought about it that way but Durant-Westbrook could be this HOF combo that somehow doesn't win a title because they are in the Lebron era. -
If I had to guess I'd say Durant wins a title, but it's going to take a new coach or new GM or most likely abundance for that to happen. Durant's still my favorite player in the NBA but he really disappointed me the past 6 weeks.RoadDawg55 said:You guys are the biggest Johnny-lately's. You probably said the same shit about LeBron. Do any of you actually believe Durant is never winning a championship. Hopefully, this is just the SoooperSoonic coming out. Dominique Wilkins, Cockus?
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Probably a better comparison.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Bill Simmons said yesterday "Could Durant and Westbrook be this generations Stockton and Malone to Lebron being MJ? You know the HOF duo in a small market who can't ever seem to get enough role players to get over the top. Role players don't travel on the road and Utah couldn't break through to the Finals until they finally got home court throughout the west for the first time."dnc said:
I know their games are different, but I kind of feel like Lebron is this generation's MJ and Durant is this generation's Wilkins. Everybody loved Wilkins, but everybody feared Jordan. I'm not sure many players fear Durant.He_Needs_More_Time said:
I think in a way that could hurt Durant. Lebron was humbled in 2011 and the entire nation turned on him. He went back to the drawing board and spent the entire time in the summer working out with Olajuwon on post moves.dnc said:
People don't care about KD like they care about Bron. Bron's held to a higher standard, but he also has much more fanatical fans. KD's never been hailed as the greatest player of all time, so he gets away with a hell of a lot more.He_Needs_More_Time said:If Lebron does that in 2010-2012 twitter would have fucking exploded.
Shit twitter was melting down still when Lebron passed to an open teammate who is an all-star going for the win.
With no pressure on Durant will he finally look in the mirror and realize he needs to fix his game?
Just asking questions as I don't know the answer. I know also superstars receive way too much heat after tough playoff losses and 81% of the time they are the least of the problems.
I never thought about it that way but Durant-Westbrook could be this HOF combo that somehow doesn't win a title because they are in the Lebron era. -
Show me a post I said he is like Wilkins please.RoadDawg55 said:You guys are the biggest Johnny-lately's. You probably said the same shit about LeBron. Do any of you actually believe Durant is never winning a championship. Hopefully, this is just the SoooperSoonic coming out. Dominique Wilkins, Cockus?
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Durant is 25 and taking the growing pains. Jordan and LeBron had them too. Not saying he will have their success, but chances are he will win a championship in the next few years. OKC has roster and coaching issues, but they have the best young nucleus in the NBA. Ibaka is 24 and Westbrook is 25. If Durant leaves after next year, it will be for a contender. Smart money is on him winning a championship in the next 3-4 years.
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He'll win a title IMO however you never know. I mean MJ denied a lot of great guys who everyone thought for sure would win a title like Stockton-Malone, Ewing, Barkley, Payton-Kemp, Drexler(I know he won one but not as the guy). Those were all-time greats that I'm sure many felt they were going to win a title.dnc said:
If I had to guess I'd say Durant wins a title, but it's going to take a new coach or new GM or most likely abundance for that to happen. Durant's still my favorite player in the NBA but he really disappointed me the past 6 weeks.RoadDawg55 said:You guys are the biggest Johnny-lately's. You probably said the same shit about LeBron. Do any of you actually believe Durant is never winning a championship. Hopefully, this is just the SoooperSoonic coming out. Dominique Wilkins, Cockus?
I think in a bigger market Durant can win. As Lebron found out role players are much more likely to play with you in a city that is a desirable place to live.
Battier, Lewis, Allen, Birdman probably aren't coming to play with him in Cleveland. But collect a check and live in South Beach? Fuck yea where do I sign?
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How about the Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp of the 2010s, if that isn't fucking depressing.
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So which one has the coke problem and has like 10 kids running around?doogsinparadise said:How about the Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp of the 2010s, if that isn't fucking depressing.
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Your eyes are as good as mine.
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I thought Baby Bron would eventually win one after the '11 Finals. The Heats just had too much talent. That's not really case w/ the Blunder. I think he's a free agent in either two or three years. So if he does leave, who knows. THere is a 50 50 chance right now, IMO.RoadDawg55 said:You guys are the biggest Johnny-lately's. You probably said the same shit about LeBron. Do any of you actually believe Durant is never winning a championship. Hopefully, this is just the SoooperSoonic coming out. Dominique Wilkins, Cockus?
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I would laugh so hard if Durant takes his talents to South Beach(by then Wade and Bosh should be up) to join a super team.
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I don't see him leaving OKC ever, but if he did I'd guess he ends up on the Lakers or the Celtics if anywhere. He seems like a small town guy which is why I think he stays in OKC, but also like guy with a real appreciation of history.He_Needs_More_Time said:I would laugh so hard if Durant takes his talents to South Beach(by then Wade and Bosh should be up) to join a super team.
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I doubt durant leaves, but westbrook might
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Agree with this, especially if he keeps being blamed for OKC's problems. But I definitely see Westbrook as a bright lights, big city guy. He could be Ballmer's first big FA splash, give him a chance to stick it to Clay Clay too.dhdawg said:I doubt durant leaves, but westbrook might
And no, I haven't looked up the Clips salary cap situation and have no idea if they could afford RW whenever he becomes a FA. It was a throwaway comment, not actual analysis.
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UCLA kid, I could definitely see the clippers, or the lakers even if they find another building block piece to go with him
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Reunited with KLove?dhdawg said:UCLA kid, I could definitely see the clippers, or the lakers even if they find another building block piece to go with him
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Lebron is this generation's MJ like Britney Spears is this generation's John Lennon. That's the fucking difference in skill level.dnc said:
I kind of feel like Lebron is this generation's MJHe_Needs_More_Time said:
I think in a way that could hurt Durant. Lebron was humbled in 2011 and the entire nation turned on him. He went back to the drawing board and spent the entire time in the summer working out with Olajuwon on post moves.dnc said:
People don't care about KD like they care about Bron. Bron's held to a higher standard, but he also has much more fanatical fans. KD's never been hailed as the greatest player of all time, so he gets away with a hell of a lot more.He_Needs_More_Time said:If Lebron does that in 2010-2012 twitter would have fucking exploded.
Shit twitter was melting down still when Lebron passed to an open teammate who is an all-star going for the win.
With no pressure on Durant will he finally look in the mirror and realize he needs to fix his game?
Just asking questions as I don't know the answer. I know also superstars receive way too much heat after tough playoff losses and 81% of the time they are the least of the problems. -
MJ > Lebron but it's more like the diference between Jagger and Lennon. Lebron's an all time great. Britney's a chick who was hot for a short period of time and kissed Madonna.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Lebron is this generation's MJ like Britney Spears is this generation's John Lennon. That's the fucking difference in skill level.dnc said:
I kind of feel like Lebron is this generation's MJHe_Needs_More_Time said:
I think in a way that could hurt Durant. Lebron was humbled in 2011 and the entire nation turned on him. He went back to the drawing board and spent the entire time in the summer working out with Olajuwon on post moves.dnc said:
People don't care about KD like they care about Bron. Bron's held to a higher standard, but he also has much more fanatical fans. KD's never been hailed as the greatest player of all time, so he gets away with a hell of a lot more.He_Needs_More_Time said:If Lebron does that in 2010-2012 twitter would have fucking exploded.
Shit twitter was melting down still when Lebron passed to an open teammate who is an all-star going for the win.
With no pressure on Durant will he finally look in the mirror and realize he needs to fix his game?
Just asking questions as I don't know the answer. I know also superstars receive way too much heat after tough playoff losses and 81% of the time they are the least of the problems.
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Your comparison is pressing. Jagger could be on the same stage as Lennon. MJ would step on Lebron's fucking idiotic glasses, taunt him to do something about it, then proceed to mop the floor with the rest of his pre game hipster clown outfits while he's mentally dismantling him piece by piece. It's the difference in the toughness between the two. It's the difference in the toughness between the two generations.dnc said:
MJ > Lebron but it's more like the diference between Jagger and Lennon. Lebron's an all time great. Britney's a chick who was hot for a short period of time and kissed Madonna.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Lebron is this generation's MJ like Britney Spears is this generation's John Lennon. That's the fucking difference in skill level.dnc said:
I kind of feel like Lebron is this generation's MJHe_Needs_More_Time said:
I think in a way that could hurt Durant. Lebron was humbled in 2011 and the entire nation turned on him. He went back to the drawing board and spent the entire time in the summer working out with Olajuwon on post moves.dnc said:
People don't care about KD like they care about Bron. Bron's held to a higher standard, but he also has much more fanatical fans. KD's never been hailed as the greatest player of all time, so he gets away with a hell of a lot more.He_Needs_More_Time said:If Lebron does that in 2010-2012 twitter would have fucking exploded.
Shit twitter was melting down still when Lebron passed to an open teammate who is an all-star going for the win.
With no pressure on Durant will he finally look in the mirror and realize he needs to fix his game?
Just asking questions as I don't know the answer. I know also superstars receive way too much heat after tough playoff losses and 81% of the time they are the least of the problems.
Stop pressing. -
I agree there's a big difference in tuffness. Your last poast you said there was a massive difference in skill level which is fucking stupid. If anything LBJ has more skills than MJ did. He can certainly do more defensively. Toughness is the real separator which is why MJ is #1 all time and LBJ probably ends up around #4 or #5, but it's not 2009 anymore, the Lebron is a pussy argument has pretty much been destroyed the last three years. He'll never have MJ's killer instinct but dude's performance in big games has been every bit as good as his talent lately.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Your comparison is pressing. Jagger could be on the same stage as Lennon. MJ would step on Lebron's fucking idiotic glasses, taunt him to do something about it, then proceed to mop the floor with the rest of his pre game hipster outfits while he's mentally dismantling him piece by piece. It's the difference in the toughness between the two. It's the difference in the toughness between the two generations.dnc said:
MJ > Lebron but it's more like the diference between Jagger and Lennon. Lebron's an all time great. Britney's a chick who was hot for a short period of time and kissed Madonna.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Lebron is this generation's MJ like Britney Spears is this generation's John Lennon. That's the fucking difference in skill level.dnc said:
I kind of feel like Lebron is this generation's MJHe_Needs_More_Time said:
I think in a way that could hurt Durant. Lebron was humbled in 2011 and the entire nation turned on him. He went back to the drawing board and spent the entire time in the summer working out with Olajuwon on post moves.dnc said:
People don't care about KD like they care about Bron. Bron's held to a higher standard, but he also has much more fanatical fans. KD's never been hailed as the greatest player of all time, so he gets away with a hell of a lot more.He_Needs_More_Time said:If Lebron does that in 2010-2012 twitter would have fucking exploded.
Shit twitter was melting down still when Lebron passed to an open teammate who is an all-star going for the win.
With no pressure on Durant will he finally look in the mirror and realize he needs to fix his game?
Just asking questions as I don't know the answer. I know also superstars receive way too much heat after tough playoff losses and 81% of the time they are the least of the problems.
Stop pressing.
Lebron's going to be a fucking legend, deal with it. Britney Spears my ass. -
Mike never dressed like a corny ass dad? obkfs as usual. -
4 or 5, getting close to being a benchwarmer in that league. Good job proving the point.dnc said:
MJ is #1 all time and LBJ probably ends up around #4 or #5oregonblitzkrieg said:
Your comparison is pressing. Jagger could be on the same stage as Lennon. MJ would step on Lebron's fucking idiotic glasses, taunt him to do something about it, then proceed to mop the floor with the rest of his pre game hipster outfits while he's mentally dismantling him piece by piece. It's the difference in the toughness between the two. It's the difference in the toughness between the two generations.dnc said:
MJ > Lebron but it's more like the diference between Jagger and Lennon. Lebron's an all time great. Britney's a chick who was hot for a short period of time and kissed Madonna.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Lebron is this generation's MJ like Britney Spears is this generation's John Lennon. That's the fucking difference in skill level.dnc said:
I kind of feel like Lebron is this generation's MJHe_Needs_More_Time said:
I think in a way that could hurt Durant. Lebron was humbled in 2011 and the entire nation turned on him. He went back to the drawing board and spent the entire time in the summer working out with Olajuwon on post moves.dnc said:
People don't care about KD like they care about Bron. Bron's held to a higher standard, but he also has much more fanatical fans. KD's never been hailed as the greatest player of all time, so he gets away with a hell of a lot more.He_Needs_More_Time said:If Lebron does that in 2010-2012 twitter would have fucking exploded.
Shit twitter was melting down still when Lebron passed to an open teammate who is an all-star going for the win.
With no pressure on Durant will he finally look in the mirror and realize he needs to fix his game?
Just asking questions as I don't know the answer. I know also superstars receive way too much heat after tough playoff losses and 81% of the time they are the least of the problems.
Stop pressing.
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Thank you. MJ spent more time worrying about what he was going to wear and what people were going to think about it than anyone in history. If he played in this era he damn sure would have been wearing hipster glasses and a backpack.doogsinparadise said:
Mike never dressed like a corny ass dad? obkfs as usual.
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4th or 5th best basketball player of all time = close to a benchwarmer?oregonblitzkrieg said:
4 or 5, getting close to being a benchwarmer in that league. Good job proving the point.dnc said:
MJ is #1 all time and LBJ probably ends up around #4 or #5oregonblitzkrieg said:
Your comparison is pressing. Jagger could be on the same stage as Lennon. MJ would step on Lebron's fucking idiotic glasses, taunt him to do something about it, then proceed to mop the floor with the rest of his pre game hipster outfits while he's mentally dismantling him piece by piece. It's the difference in the toughness between the two. It's the difference in the toughness between the two generations.dnc said:
MJ > Lebron but it's more like the diference between Jagger and Lennon. Lebron's an all time great. Britney's a chick who was hot for a short period of time and kissed Madonna.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Lebron is this generation's MJ like Britney Spears is this generation's John Lennon. That's the fucking difference in skill level.dnc said:
I kind of feel like Lebron is this generation's MJHe_Needs_More_Time said:
I think in a way that could hurt Durant. Lebron was humbled in 2011 and the entire nation turned on him. He went back to the drawing board and spent the entire time in the summer working out with Olajuwon on post moves.dnc said:
People don't care about KD like they care about Bron. Bron's held to a higher standard, but he also has much more fanatical fans. KD's never been hailed as the greatest player of all time, so he gets away with a hell of a lot more.He_Needs_More_Time said:If Lebron does that in 2010-2012 twitter would have fucking exploded.
Shit twitter was melting down still when Lebron passed to an open teammate who is an all-star going for the win.
With no pressure on Durant will he finally look in the mirror and realize he needs to fix his game?
Just asking questions as I don't know the answer. I know also superstars receive way too much heat after tough playoff losses and 81% of the time they are the least of the problems.
Stop pressing.
CollegeDoog wants his reasoning skills back.
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