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...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,607
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    But Trump tweets stuff
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,575
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    edited October 2020
    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,575
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    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
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    HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
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    edited October 2020

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    They wont lose congress...

    State house redistricting is going to be crazy

    They will push to add both Puerto Rico and DC to the senate giving Dems an extra 4 seats

    Pack the supreme court to "even it out" with anywhere between 2-9 more judges
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,985
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    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I don't think the Dems GAF what is popular with voters.

    They're out for blood.
    And they cheat massively.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    Houhusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    They wont lose congress...

    State house redistricting is going to be crazy

    They will push to add both Puerto Rico and DC to the senate giving Dems an extra 4 seats

    Pack the supreme court to "even it out" with anywhere between 2-9 more judges
    They're going to want to add 4 at least.

    The o/u is 5.
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    georgiaduckgeorgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,615
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    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    Say Trump wins- What will be dems rallying cry that nine is enough?
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    Say Trump wins- What will be dems rallying cry that nine is enough?
    Non-issue. I don't see they the GOP would feel the need to pack the court in that case. You already have a strong majority, no need to take the PR hit to be the side that added extra members.
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    Houhusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    They wont lose congress...

    State house redistricting is going to be crazy

    They will push to add both Puerto Rico and DC to the senate giving Dems an extra 4 seats

    Pack the supreme court to "even it out" with anywhere between 2-9 more judges
    Adding PR and DC as states makes it damn near impossible for the GOP to ever take back the Senate.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    Houhusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    They wont lose congress...

    State house redistricting is going to be crazy

    They will push to add both Puerto Rico and DC to the senate giving Dems an extra 4 seats

    Pack the supreme court to "even it out" with anywhere between 2-9 more judges
    What is the process for statehood? Surely it has to be a higher bar than a Senate majority vote? Feels like a difficult task but since this has never been considered in my lifetime I am admittedly not close to up on what is required.
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    SFGbob said:

    Houhusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    They wont lose congress...

    State house redistricting is going to be crazy

    They will push to add both Puerto Rico and DC to the senate giving Dems an extra 4 seats

    Pack the supreme court to "even it out" with anywhere between 2-9 more judges
    Adding PR and DC as states makes it damn near impossible for the GOP to ever take back the Senate.
    Sometime in the last 18 months, there was a batshit insane idea from a mainline outlet to make like 15-20 states about of DC based on neighborhoods.
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    dnc said:

    Houhusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    They wont lose congress...

    State house redistricting is going to be crazy

    They will push to add both Puerto Rico and DC to the senate giving Dems an extra 4 seats

    Pack the supreme court to "even it out" with anywhere between 2-9 more judges
    What is the process for statehood? Surely it has to be a higher bar than a Senate majority vote? Feels like a difficult task but since this has never been considered in my lifetime I am admittedly not close to up on what is required.
    Its a process

    Historically, most new states brought into being by Congress have been established from an organized incorporated U.S. territory, created and governed by Congress in accord with its plenary power under Article IV, Section 3, Clause 2 of the Constitution.[14] In some cases, an entire territory became a state; in others some part of a territory became a state. In most cases, the organized government of a territory made known the sentiment of its population in favor of statehood, usually by referendum. Congress then directed that government to organize a constitutional convention to write a state constitution. Upon acceptance of that constitution, by the people of the territory and then by Congress, Congress would adopt a joint resolution granting statehood. Then, the president would sign the resolution and issue a proclamation announcing that a new state had been added to the Union. While Congress, which has ultimate authority over the admission of new states, has usually followed this procedure, there have been occasions (due to unique case-specific circumstances) where it did not.[15][16]

    Congress is under no obligation to admit states, even in those areas whose population expresses a desire for statehood. In one instance, Mormon pioneers in Salt Lake City sought to establish the state of Deseret in 1849. It existed for slightly over two years and was never approved by the United States Congress. (Hurts @89ute) In another, leaders of the Five Civilized Tribes (Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and Seminole) in Indian Territory proposed to establish the state of Sequoyah in 1905, as a means to retain control of their lands.[17] The proposed constitution ultimately failed in the U.S. Congress. Instead, the Indian Territory was incorporated into the new state of Oklahoma in 1907. (Hurts @Swaye)

    Some U.S. territories existed only a short time before becoming states, while others remained territories for decades. The shortest-lived was Alabama Territory at 2 years, while New Mexico and Hawaii territories both were in existence for more than 50 years. The entry of several states into the Union has been delayed due to complicating factors. Among them, Michigan Territory, which petitioned Congress for statehood in 1835, was not admitted to the Union until 1837, due to a boundary dispute with the adjacent state of Ohio. The Republic of Texas requested annexation to the United States in 1837, but fears about potential conflict with Mexico delayed the admission of Texas for nine years.[18] Also, statehood for Kansas Territory was held up for several years (1854–61) due to a series of internal violent conflicts involving anti-slavery and pro-slavery factions.

    Once established, most state borders have, with few exceptions, been generally stable. Notable exceptions include: the various portions (the Western land claims) of several original states ceded over a period of several years to the federal government, which in turn became the Northwest Territory, Southwest Territory, and Mississippi Territory; the 1791 cession by Maryland and Virginia of land to create the District of Columbia (Virginia's portion was returned in 1847); and the creation, on at least three occasions, of a new state (Kentucky, Maine and West Virginia) from a region of an existing state (Vermont was created from what was disputedly claimed to be a part of New York and was not admitted until New York consented); two large additions to Nevada, which became a state in 1864, were made in 1866 and 1867. However, there have been numerous minor adjustments to state boundaries over the years due to improved surveys, resolution of ambiguous or disputed boundary definitions, or minor mutually agreed boundary adjustments for administrative convenience or other purposes.[19] One notable example is the case New Jersey v. New York, in which New Jersey won roughly 90% of Ellis Island from New York in 1998.[20]
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    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I don't think the Dems GAF what is popular with voters.

    They're out for blood.
    The GOP played dirty to get ACB in there. Winners win but yeah DNC is going to retaliate for that move. Im not a fan of the current DNC talking points to pack the courts which is basically just adding justices carte blanche.

    Buttigieg had an interesting proposal to depoliticise the process which I guess could still fall under the umbrella of court packing given the current balance. GOP gets 5 justices. DNC gets 5 justices. This initial allotment does not change. Those initial 10 justices appoint 5 more. 15 justices in total. This was floated well before RBG/ACB.
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