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    HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
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    RedRocket said:

    Houhusky said:

    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I don't think the Dems GAF what is popular with voters.

    They're out for blood.
    The GOP played dirty to get ACB in there. Winners win but yeah DNC is going to retaliate for that move. Im not a fan of the current DNC talking points to pack the courts which is basically just adding justices carte blanche.

    Buttigieg had an interesting proposal to depoliticise the process which I guess could still fall under the umbrella of court packing given the current balance. GOP gets 5 justices. DNC gets 5 justices. This initial allotment does not change. Those initial 10 justices appoint 5 more. 15 justices in total. This was floated well before RBG/ACB.
    The GOP used existing rules to nominate and vote in favor of a Supreme Court Justice

    Nothing dirty about it at all

    Thanks to Harry Reid it was possible. Maybe the dems can change some more stuff that blows up in their face
    The playing dirty is setting a precedent that if you control congress you delay or expedite court appointments until you get your guy into the executive office. It's supposed to be an apolitical office.

    Playing dirty is not hearing an appointment for Garland on the grounds that it was an election year and then ramming through ACB a month before the election. I never said that it was against the rules but it was massively hypocritical.
    2016 Obama was a democrat, the Senate was controlled by republicans

    2020 Trump is a Republican, the senate was controlled by republicans

    This isn't complicated
    Mind blown...so whoever controls senate can just delay an appointment for how long?
    Your mind is blown that a branch of the legislature can exercise a check on the power of the executive making a life long appointment into the judicial??? Thats the entire fucking point.

    No wonder you are peddling Beto type ideas...

    JFC you are talking about breaking down judges by republican vs democrat (as if no other political party does/could exist) and then having its own body pick additional justices...

    Read a god damn book , Start with the federalist papers, maybe Hamilton's (that guy from the spoken word musical was actually a real guy!) No. 76.
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    NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
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    Houhusky said:

    I don't know why the dems care anyway, 81% of conservative justices aren't conservative and the GOP lets everyone the dems nominate in. Except Garland but still

    The liberal wing is lockstep on everything. No one ever wanders

    People forget that the Supreme Court isn't supposed to be about equal party representation. That's a big part of the problem today

    Say you want to be a judge that interprets the law as written and suddenly you are an alt-right nazi partisan who is a threat to the constitution.

    Fucking retards walking around thinking that the court is supposed to act as a partisan super legislature of philosopher kings.

    Never mind that the number of "right wing" activists on the court is currently zero... imagine if there were a few conservative justices ruling on things like RBG
    RedRocket said:

    RedRocket said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I don't think the Dems GAF what is popular with voters.

    They're out for blood.
    The GOP played dirty to get ACB in there. Winners win but yeah DNC is going to retaliate for that move. Im not a fan of the current DNC talking points to pack the courts which is basically just adding justices carte blanche.

    Buttigieg had an interesting proposal to depoliticise the process which I guess could still fall under the umbrella of court packing given the current balance. GOP gets 5 justices. DNC gets 5 justices. This initial allotment does not change. Those initial 10 justices appoint 5 more. 15 justices in total. This was floated well before RBG/ACB.
    The GOP used existing rules to nominate and vote in favor of a Supreme Court Justice

    Nothing dirty about it at all

    Thanks to Harry Reid it was possible. Maybe the dems can change some more stuff that blows up in their face
    The playing dirty is setting a precedent that if you control congress you delay or expedite court appointments until you get your guy into the executive office. It's supposed to be an apolitical office.

    Playing dirty is not hearing an appointment for Garland on the grounds that it was an election year and then ramming through ACB a month before the election. I never said that it was against the rules but it was massively hypocritical.
    Why waste time on a Garland hearing when he wasn’t going to be confirmed. Voters were so outraged of the GOP Senate “playing dirty” that Trump won the presidency and the GOP gained seats in the Senate.

    Stop whining.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,654
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    Don't forget Obama was a grade A bitch
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,226
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    Dirty? I didn't realize that following the Constitution was dirty. ACB was nominated by the President and then approved with the consent of the Senate. What was dirty was RBG thinking she was Race Bannon immortal.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,351
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    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I agree, for now. You really think sentiment won’t start changing if 20 million people lose health care coverage?
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    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I agree, for now. You really think sentiment won’t start changing if 20 million people lose health care coverage?
    Its already happened

    Hence Trump
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,351
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    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I agree, for now. You really think sentiment won’t start changing if 20 million people lose health care coverage?
    Its already happened

    Hence Trump
    That Trump plan will be coming out any day now.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I agree, for now. You really think sentiment won’t start changing if 20 million people lose health care coverage?
    Its already happened

    Hence Trump
    That Trump plan will be coming out any day now.
    Pay for your own damn healthcare.
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    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I don't believe this anymore. The vast majority of people in this country are just not that intelligent or informed. Unfortunately, a large segment of our society doesn't want to work harder to get ahead and they envy and denigrate those who do. These people need government in their lives and will take the chip, tattoo and vaccine and won't ask why when they're asked to get on the train. I'm being somewhat facetious here but just this Monday I got an email from a lifelong friend who is a JAG lawyer who spends half his time in Seattle and the other half in Germany working as what is effectively a defense attorney for soldiers in the military. This dipshit was happy and willing to be tested, quarantined and monitored by an app on his German cell phone. FMFYFE how can he be this fucking stupid? I'll tell you how...he fucking gets paid by the government. Please sir may have some mooore?
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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I agree, for now. You really think sentiment won’t start changing if 20 million people lose health care coverage?
    Its already happened

    Hence Trump
    That Trump plan will be coming out any day now.
    Pay for your own damn healthcare.
    Made easier to do without the mandate

    Kill the rest of Obamacare

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    RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,352
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    Houhusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    They wont lose congress...

    State house redistricting is going to be crazy

    They will push to add both Puerto Rico and DC to the senate giving Dems an extra 4 seats

    Pack the supreme court to "even it out" with anywhere between 2-9 more judges
    When this happens, the only thing that can save this country at that point is what Mark Levin has been talking about for several years; I believe it's two thirds of the states would have to vote for and approve a Constitutional Convention.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,351
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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I agree, for now. You really think sentiment won’t start changing if 20 million people lose health care coverage?
    Its already happened

    Hence Trump
    That Trump plan will be coming out any day now.
    Pay for your own damn healthcare.
    Seems like he could have released that plan by now.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,226
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    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I agree, for now. You really think sentiment won’t start changing if 20 million people lose health care coverage?
    How about when 180 million people lose their health insurance when we go to medicare for all?
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,351
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    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I agree, for now. You really think sentiment won’t start changing if 20 million people lose health care coverage?
    How about when 180 million people lose their health insurance when we go to medicare for all?
    Count Gasbag in favor of unelected judges throwing out popular pieces of legislation.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I agree, for now. You really think sentiment won’t start changing if 20 million people lose health care coverage?
    How about when 180 million people lose their health insurance when we go to medicare for all?
    Count Gasbag in favor of unelected judges throwing out popular pieces of legislation.
    Good point the constitution does say if legislation is popular enough it’s automatically constitutional.
    It's right there next to the RBG deathbed wishes clause.
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I agree, for now. You really think sentiment won’t start changing if 20 million people lose health care coverage?
    Its already happened

    Hence Trump
    That Trump plan will be coming out any day now.
    Already did come out. McCain voted it down. He’s dead now. NOC
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,351
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    Houhusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    ...isn't Biden beating Trump, it's that the Dems look likely to win the Senate as well. Can you imagine what is about to happen with unified socialist government? Court packing, massive tax hikes, energy dependence again, millions of job losses, National Firearms Database...the list goes on and on...

    Scary tim for sure. Help us ACB, you're our only hope...

    Also gonna need the Conservative Supremes to all stay alive for the next 4 years. Lose one and it's back to a lib court because that fag Roberts votes with the libs on everything. Bush fucked that appointment up beyond belief.
    They're going to pack the court so their lives will be irrelevant.
    I tend to not believe that. The Dems are dumb, but doing that loses them at least one chamber of Congress in 2022, and probably the Presidency in 2024. That policy is wildly unpopular with voters.
    I agree, for now. You really think sentiment won’t start changing if 20 million people lose health care coverage?
    How about when 180 million people lose their health insurance when we go to medicare for all?
    Count Gasbag in favor of unelected judges throwing out popular pieces of legislation.
    Good point the constitution does say if legislation is popular enough it’s automatically constitutional.
    Obviously not. But the issue was popular support for increasing the Supreme Court's size. That's plainly within Congress' power to accomplish. Popularity is not irrelevant to that calculus.
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    NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
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    That’s not “calculus,” dipshit. It’s basic math, and the poles state otherwise anyhow.

    Your wife is the real breadwinner. Finally figured that one out. Probably made you fly commercial to Missouri and drive to the Ozarks to try and get an ROI before your strip mall office goes tits up.
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