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  • PHD_Dawg
    PHD_Dawg Member Posts: 154
    I love hearing shit like this from people who don't live here. It's a few blocks downtown. You wouldn't know anything had been any different for the past 5 months from a mile away, outside of a few isolated incidents.
  • PHD_Dawg
    PHD_Dawg Member Posts: 154

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    this is hilarious coming from a Rogan fan
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    PHD_Dawg said:

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    this is hilarious coming from a Rogan fan
    Go on...
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    The state of Oregon is uneducated and doesn't give a shit about education. Leave Washington and California out of it, and what does he base that claim on anyways? In terms of software UK seems way behind and just copies whatever the hell we do and teach anyways.

    Downtown Portland is an absolute embarrassment, but the rest of the city is fine and has been this whole time.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    It matters to me because we now have people in power that will allow their political allies to commit crimes at will without punishment. They will lose them on their own citizens that do not agree with them with carte blanche to loot, burn, assault and murder. This isn't the America I know nor the America that were intended to live in. One side is actually in a physical war. It'll be interesting when Trump crushes Biden. Lets see what these communist assholes do. There may be less of them if they get too frisky!
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    PHD_Dawg said:

    I love hearing shit like this from people who don't live here. It's a few blocks downtown. You wouldn't know anything had been any different for the past 5 months from a mile away, outside of a few isolated incidents.

    93% peaceful
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    PHD_Dawg said:

    I love hearing shit like this from people who don't live here. It's a few blocks downtown. You wouldn't know anything had been any different for the past 5 months from a mile away, outside of a few isolated incidents.

    What's more pathetic is the ridiculous lockdown rules at all the breweries whereas in downtown Vancouver just north, everyone is partying again.

    Downtown is our Chaz. It's okay though because I've been told that the chaz in Seattle was just a festival so it's not as embarrassing as it sounds like.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    The problem is now that being "educated" but having no actual skills (aka most grads) is imo even worse than being uneducated.

    That's how bad it is.
    It should be rather uncontroversial:

    - Educated + Practical Skills = #1
    - Non-Educated + Practical Skills = #2
    - Educated + No Practical Skills = #3
    - Uneducated + No Practical Skills = #4 and worst.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Douglas Murray, British thinker and author, is on a tour of the chaos of the west coast. He and Bret Weinstein have a discussion about the train wreck that is Portland and other west coast cities.

    Super enlightening but ultimately traumatizing to realize the trajectory we’re on.

    https://youtu.be/E7LMSZ2xsRs

    Listening now, good chit, thank you
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    edited October 2020
    haie said:

    The state of Oregon is uneducated and doesn't give a shit about education. Leave Washington and California out of it, and what does he base that claim on anyways? In terms of software UK seems way behind and just copies whatever the hell we do and teach anyways.

    Downtown Portland is an absolute embarrassment, but the rest of the city is fine and has been this whole time.

    You must not have gotten far outside of Seattle when you were here. Seattle and Portland, aka, Seattle Lite, are the same places. Everywhere else in Washington and Oregon are the same. Literally the same. The lines on the map mean absolutlely nothing sans for pumping gas, sales and income tax.

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,198

    haie said:

    The state of Oregon is uneducated and doesn't give a shit about education. Leave Washington and California out of it, and what does he base that claim on anyways? In terms of software UK seems way behind and just copies whatever the hell we do and teach anyways.

    Downtown Portland is an absolute embarrassment, but the rest of the city is fine and has been this whole time.

    You must not have gotten far outside of Seattle when you were here. Seattle and Portland, aka, Seattle Lite, are the same places. Everywhere else in Washington and Oregon are the same. Literally the same. The lines on the map mean absolutlely nothing sans for pumping gas, sales and income tax.


    Eh. The truth is in the middle.

    Western WA/OR share similarities but are definitely different enough.

    Seattle is very corporate. Portland REALLY isn't.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,615 Standard Supporter
    The problem is mayor pencil neck abdicated his responsibility for political reasons and it's setting an awful precedent. I get that it's isolated but this should have been stamped out by early June.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    haie said:

    The state of Oregon is uneducated and doesn't give a shit about education. Leave Washington and California out of it, and what does he base that claim on anyways? In terms of software UK seems way behind and just copies whatever the hell we do and teach anyways.

    Downtown Portland is an absolute embarrassment, but the rest of the city is fine and has been this whole time.

    You must not have gotten far outside of Seattle when you were here. Seattle and Portland, aka, Seattle Lite, are the same places. Everywhere else in Washington and Oregon are the same. Literally the same. The lines on the map mean absolutlely nothing sans for pumping gas, sales and income tax.


    Eh. The truth is in the middle.

    Western WA/OR share similarities but are definitely different enough.

    Seattle is very corporate. Portland REALLY isn't.
    Mostly the same. Seattle is better and of course there are differences in the city. But a lot of similarities.

    Outside of urban areas? Mostly the same.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,214 Standard Supporter
    PHD_Dawg said:

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    this is hilarious coming from a Rogan fan
    You must have a 1" pecker to come up with a name like Phd Dawg. Tell me more about how mentally superior you are to the rest of humanity.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,615 Standard Supporter
    Is PhDumb Dawg cirrhosis resurrected?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,753 Standard Supporter
    edited October 2020

    PHD_Dawg said:

    Murray is an interesting dude. I find that I agree with a lot of what he says.

    I knew little about him, and had this impression of him as a conservative who perhaps was tinged with a racist outlook. That was a very unfair assessment for me to make, but it was based on things I heard and read. But when I heard him on Rogan, and then yesterday with Weinstein, I loved the guy. I'm totally on board. Brilliant thinker, big balls, and much foresight.

    He travels the USA and can see things as an outsider. I winced when he said it is shocking how poorly educated the vast majority of Americans are and what that portends for our future.

    I agree when he said that the future of the world hinges greatly on how America fares.
    this is hilarious coming from a Rogan fan
    You must have a 1" pecker to come up with a name like Phd Dawg. Tell me more about how mentally superior you are to the rest of humanity.
    It stands for Punily Hung Dude.