HH Favorite Rock Album Final 4 - #1 Nevermind vs #2 Back in Black
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#2 Back in Black
Elvis could barely play the guitar or write a song. But sometimes it's better to be FIRST than technically gifted.creepycoug said:
And die you will.BleachedAnusDawg said:
I'm comparing talent to the field, not just AC/DC. A Picasso is a stand-alone masterpiece identifiable to him, only. Lots of people can grunt out Cobain-quality vocals while taking a dump.creepycoug said:
Yes, be "objective" with your musical tastes. GTFOOHBleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
Kurt's raspy voice was his thing. It's like saying Picasso was a shitty artist because his faces didn't look real enough.
As for technical talent, while I'm not one to claim expert knowledge on the matter, I've been told by a lot of musicians that ACDC, like the Beatles, were pretty limited technically. Whether they were capable of playing more technically complicated music, who knows. But it was never the point. They were the originals of what they did and people liked it. Same can be said for Nirvana. They ushered in another genre. Seems important.
I will die on this hill. Nirvana was lightning in a bottle for a specific point in time, but if you're making a best of rock album they don't belong anywhere on the playlist. Grunge is not a highlight of rock history.
A million talented EMO kids can replicate a Picasso. Hell, one of my kids who has no interest in art but nonetheless can draw anything could do it easily.
But they're not Picasso. They didn't think of it. They don't have his story. He was the one. EXACTLY the same thing can be said of Cobain.
Grunge absolutely is a highlight of rock history. You are working WAY too hard on this. It's easier and more efficient to just say you don't like Nirvana. Nobody can argue that point. I was going to say the same thing about Floyd. It's just never been my thing. I have friends who fucking hate Steely Dan and I love them. It's when you try to reduce it to some mathematical proof that you get off the rails. You tried with "not technical", and that didn't work because there are too many examples of all-tim bands that played limited chords. So what? A lot of people can scream like Janis Joplin, but there was only one Janis Joplin.
Not saying Nirvana and NVM should top the list; but "don't belong anywhere on the playlist" sounds like a guy who has an axe to grind.
This is a more important recording than almost anything else done and it's the most basic, simple stuff. 3 chords and the truth.
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#2 Back in Black
I think I have on several occasions. For the life of me, I can't understand how people can listen to Nirvana and Cobain's warbling. I'm not a guy who listens to music for the words, so if that's his endearing trait or skill I'm not going to appreciate it. Same with Neil Young, etc. To me, grunge sounds mostly like garage band stuff. No thanks. I prefer listening to music that is beyond my creativity or any skill level I could ever attain.creepycoug said:
And die you will.BleachedAnusDawg said:
I'm comparing talent to the field, not just AC/DC. A Picasso is a stand-alone masterpiece identifiable to him, only. Lots of people can grunt out Cobain-quality vocals while taking a dump.creepycoug said:
Yes, be "objective" with your musical tastes. GTFOOHBleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
Kurt's raspy voice was his thing. It's like saying Picasso was a shitty artist because his faces didn't look real enough.
As for technical talent, while I'm not one to claim expert knowledge on the matter, I've been told by a lot of musicians that ACDC, like the Beatles, were pretty limited technically. Whether they were capable of playing more technically complicated music, who knows. But it was never the point. They were the originals of what they did and people liked it. Same can be said for Nirvana. They ushered in another genre. Seems important.
I will die on this hill. Nirvana was lightning in a bottle for a specific point in time, but if you're making a best of rock album they don't belong anywhere on the playlist. Grunge is not a highlight of rock history.
A million talented EMO kids can replicate a Picasso. Hell, one of my kids who has no interest in art but nonetheless can draw anything could do it easily.
But they're not Picasso. They didn't think of it. They don't have his story. He was the one. EXACTLY the same thing can be said of Cobain.
Grunge absolutely is a highlight of rock history. You are working WAY too hard on this. It's easier and more efficient to just say you don't like Nirvana. Nobody can argue that point. I was going to say the same thing about Floyd. It's just never been my thing. I have friends who fucking hate Steely Dan and I love them. It's when you try to reduce it to some mathematical proof that you get off the rails. You tried with "not technical", and that didn't work because there are too many examples of all-tim bands that played limited chords. So what? A lot of people can scream like Janis Joplin, but there was only one Janis Joplin.
Not saying Nirvana and NVM should top the list; but "don't belong anywhere on the playlist" sounds like a guy who has an axe to grind. -
#2 Back in BlackI fished from the muddy bank of the Wishkah on Monday, and listened to Back in Black on the way there and Nevermind on the way back. Back in Black is the better album, quite easily.
I like to listen to the albums and then decide. That's what I like to do.
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#2 Back in BlackGrunge was the beginning of the end for rock. All these pompous, self righteous types decided to get deep and how much life sucks. I don't give a fuck what you think about abortion Eddie Vetter.
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I think that's right, which cuts back a little on my point since I wouldn't categorize JBJ as a clown, though definitely hair and definitely pop rock for chicks. By way of "clown", I'm thinking of Poison, Cinderella, Warrant, Dokken, Skid Row, etc. Even Motley Crue, who snuck into my high school experience with some good stuff, needed to take a seat.dnc said:
It was Jon Bon Jovi IIRCcreepycoug said:
And people forget (is that a HCH all-tim lead-in or what?), Grunge literally rescued the world from the increasing absurdity of the LA-originated hair band genre.dnc said:
Bigtim DISAGREEBleachedAnusDawg said:
I'm comparing talent to the field, not just AC/DC. A Picasso is a stand-alone masterpiece identifiable to him, only. Lots of people can grunt out Cobain-quality vocals while taking a dump.creepycoug said:
Yes, be "objective" with your musical tastes. GTFOOHBleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
Kurt's raspy voice was his thing. It's like saying Picasso was a shitty artist because his faces didn't look real enough.
As for technical talent, while I'm not one to claim expert knowledge on the matter, I've been told by a lot of musicians that ACDC, like the Beatles, were pretty limited technically. Whether they were capable of playing more technically complicated music, who knows. But it was never the point. They were the originals of what they did and people liked it. Same can be said for Nirvana. They ushered in another genre. Seems important.
I will die on this hill. Nirvana was lightning in a bottle for a specific point in time, but if you're making a best of rock album they don't belong anywhere on the playlist. Grunge is not a highlight of rock history.
Grunge was rock's last great movement. One could probably argue it was real music's last hurrah. Nothing since has come especially close aside from perhaps a few essential rap albums.
It's hard to imagine we'll ever see anything take over the world like Nevermind again.
I love those MTV interviews with those dudes who openly admit watching Nirvana and Grunge crash in and basically concede the point. One of the lead singers of one of those bands - forget which - said he watched Nirvana or PJ or whichever live and said to himself, "We're fucked. We're over." He knew it was new, fresh and better and that it was going to reveal them all for the clowns they'd all become.
Cherry Fucking Pie. Seriously.
And Cobain's voice would be shitty for any other genre but it worked pretty well for what he was doing.
I would never attend a BJ concert or pay for their music, but they never seemed quite as ridiculous as those bands eventually became. -
#2 Back in BlackA case could be made that the beginning of the end of rock was anything after 1955...Chuck "invented" it, and everything after was someone's interpretation of Chuck, up to present day...
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#1 Nevermind
Anyone that pretends like technical ability matters over songwriting is retarded. It’s like being the strongest armed QB or the fastest rapper. It has very little to do with anything.creepycoug said:
Yes, be "objective" with your musical tastes. GTFOOHBleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
Kurt's raspy voice was his thing. It's like saying Picasso was a shitty artist because his faces didn't look real enough.
As for technical talent, while I'm not one to claim expert knowledge on the matter, I've been told by a lot of musicians that ACDC, like the Beatles, were pretty limited technically. Whether they were capable of playing more technically complicated music, who knows. But it was never the point. They were the originals of what they did and people liked it. Same can be said for Nirvana. They ushered in another genre. Seems important. -
#1 Nevermind
Funny. The winner of the other semi has my vote by a mile.whlinder said:Whoever wins this gets my championship vote
I get the appeal of drunken cock rock. I really do. ACDC is great for keg parties, monster truck rallies, and pro wrestling. It's great for Dflea pumping himself up for another soggy day chasing coho on the peninsula. It's fine, hard rock for the background.
Measured against the greatest rock albums ever, though? Nah. Doesn't belong in the conversation. There's nothing worth
I cant believe how the brainless cock rock has failed to dominate this time around either. It's good though. The jacked up Chevy, hunting, fishing, muddin, acid washed jeans with big hair crowd, at least around here, is actually willing to diversify a bit. All good.Swaye said:I cannot believe what I am seeing.
Can't chin this one enough times.YellowSnow said:
Bruh, I've driven along the muddy banks of the Wishkah. Almost pushed @dflea in.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Only locals know they're from Aberdeen though. And that somehow makes them even cooler to the hipsters here.dnc said:
@creepycoug is the only one here from Aberdeen that I'm aware of.BleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
No one should be arguing the Cobain was a some virtuoso or talented singer. Some of the greatest artists in history were mediocre musicians at best and some of the most technically gifted made shitty music. The list of examples is endless.
He was a great songwriter and crafted a unique sound that moved the genre forward. As @dnc stated it's really the last essential time period in rock. -
#2 Back in BlackMy friend had me listen to Teen Spirit sometime in the first half of 1992. It sounded like gutter garage rock. I didn't get wtf the big deal was. I wasn't that big into music but I liked what would now be considered G rated rap like Hammer, Poison, Cheap Trick and M. Jackson.
Years later in college I gradually appreciated grunge beginning with AIC which were the closest to real metal. Now I just see rock as different eras and genres. There was nu metal, grunge, hair bands, in the early 80s Journey type bands were big. There was good hard rock in the 70s. Each is different.
I just got tired of all the elitist music snobs, including stations like KISW. who acted like Ratt was toxic waste or some joke. It's like you played that in 1991. -
#2 Back in BlackGrunge, Seattle grunge in particular, celebrated Neil Young and played with him in concert. Not Rod Stewart. Neil Young
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Rod didn't even get a bid to this circle jerk and the wrong Neil album got in.RaceBannon said:Grunge, Seattle grunge in particular, celebrated Neil Young and played with him in concert. Not Rod Stewart. Neil Young
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#2 Back in BlackWhen Cobain died, I didn't get it, but I wasn't listening to it, or grunge, for that matter. I slowly began to listen to it...the music was good, but the lyrics intrigued me. When Cornell kicked, a buddy of mine (a Marine) who loved SG, called him a pussy for tapping out. It clicked then, for me. These guys had pretty fucked up upbringings early on, for whatever reason, started writing about it.
Cornell, Eddie, Layne, et.al are/were socially inept, insecure, self-conscious, and deeply flawed people. Man In a Box or Rusty Cage or Alive didn't come from a creative writing class at the U. Cobain wrote In Bloom about all the bros raging at their shows that didn't get what it was about. Eddie pushed back on releasing Black as a single, and couldn't get thru it on stage early in their career...Dark shit for them...The pain created the art...my 2 cents... -
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I can't figure out why these pussies were so fucking depressed. Wasn't Seattle way cooler in the late 80's and early 90's? And we? were winning Rose Bowls.Fishpo31 said:When Cobain died, I didn't get it, but I wasn't listening to it, or grunge, for that matter. I slowly began to listen to it...the music was good, but the lyrics intrigued me. When Cornell kicked, a buddy of mine (a Marine) who loved SG, called him a pussy for tapping out. It clicked then, for me. These guys had pretty fucked up upbringings early on, for whatever reason, started writing about it.
Cornell, Eddie, Layne, et.al are/were socially inept, insecure, self-conscious, and deeply flawed people. Man In a Box or Rusty Cage or Alive didn't come from a creative writing class at the U. Cobain wrote In Bloom about all the bros raging at their shows that didn't get what it was about. Eddie pushed back on releasing Black as a single, and couldn't get thru it on stage early in their career...Dark shit for them...The pain created the art...my 2 cents...
I mean fuck @creepycoug had to be a lil swarthy kid getting beat up by those logging camp liberals and you don't see him taking the easy way out. -
#2 Back in Black
I couldn’t figure it out for a long time, but I was one of “the cool kids”...YellowSnow said:
I can't figure out why these pussies were so fucking depressed. Wasn't Seattle way cooler in the late 80's and early 90's? And we? were winning Rose Bowls.Fishpo31 said:When Cobain died, I didn't get it, but I wasn't listening to it, or grunge, for that matter. I slowly began to listen to it...the music was good, but the lyrics intrigued me. When Cornell kicked, a buddy of mine (a Marine) who loved SG, called him a pussy for tapping out. It clicked then, for me. These guys had pretty fucked up upbringings early on, for whatever reason, started writing about it.
Cornell, Eddie, Layne, et.al are/were socially inept, insecure, self-conscious, and deeply flawed people. Man In a Box or Rusty Cage or Alive didn't come from a creative writing class at the U. Cobain wrote In Bloom about all the bros raging at their shows that didn't get what it was about. Eddie pushed back on releasing Black as a single, and couldn't get thru it on stage early in their career...Dark shit for them...The pain created the art...my 2 cents...
I mean fuck @creepycoug had to be a lil swarthy kid getting beat up by those logging camp liberals and you don't see him taking the easy way out. -
#2 Back in Black
Have you even been to Aberdeen? A couple trips through town and I'm getting thoughts of jumping off a bridge. creep was a rough and tumble yute - not a creative artist type. Those dudes get beat up in a town like Aberdeen or Shelton.YellowSnow said:
I can't figure out why these pussies were so fucking depressed. Wasn't Seattle way cooler in the late 80's and early 90's? And we? were winning Rose Bowls.Fishpo31 said:When Cobain died, I didn't get it, but I wasn't listening to it, or grunge, for that matter. I slowly began to listen to it...the music was good, but the lyrics intrigued me. When Cornell kicked, a buddy of mine (a Marine) who loved SG, called him a pussy for tapping out. It clicked then, for me. These guys had pretty fucked up upbringings early on, for whatever reason, started writing about it.
Cornell, Eddie, Layne, et.al are/were socially inept, insecure, self-conscious, and deeply flawed people. Man In a Box or Rusty Cage or Alive didn't come from a creative writing class at the U. Cobain wrote In Bloom about all the bros raging at their shows that didn't get what it was about. Eddie pushed back on releasing Black as a single, and couldn't get thru it on stage early in their career...Dark shit for them...The pain created the art...my 2 cents...
I mean fuck @creepycoug had to be a lil swarthy kid getting beat up by those logging camp liberals and you don't see him taking the easy way out. -
#2 Back in Black
Yup.dflea said:
Have you even been to Aberdeen? A couple trips through town and I'm getting thoughts of jumping off a bridge. creep was a rough and tumble yute - not a creative artist type. Those dudes get beat up in a town like Aberdeen or Shelton.YellowSnow said:
I can't figure out why these pussies were so fucking depressed. Wasn't Seattle way cooler in the late 80's and early 90's? And we? were winning Rose Bowls.Fishpo31 said:When Cobain died, I didn't get it, but I wasn't listening to it, or grunge, for that matter. I slowly began to listen to it...the music was good, but the lyrics intrigued me. When Cornell kicked, a buddy of mine (a Marine) who loved SG, called him a pussy for tapping out. It clicked then, for me. These guys had pretty fucked up upbringings early on, for whatever reason, started writing about it.
Cornell, Eddie, Layne, et.al are/were socially inept, insecure, self-conscious, and deeply flawed people. Man In a Box or Rusty Cage or Alive didn't come from a creative writing class at the U. Cobain wrote In Bloom about all the bros raging at their shows that didn't get what it was about. Eddie pushed back on releasing Black as a single, and couldn't get thru it on stage early in their career...Dark shit for them...The pain created the art...my 2 cents...
I mean fuck @creepycoug had to be a lil swarthy kid getting beat up by those logging camp liberals and you don't see him taking the easy way out. -
#2 Back in BlackBack in Black takes it 16-14 to advance to the Natty Game.
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#1 Nevermind
https://youtu.be/BmWjMw8vlxc
A tune i did want f'r mine own play about young star cross‘d lov'rs, but curses! the musician didst wanteth too much from thy own purse in royalties. -
#2 Back in Black
All jokes aside, the flea is correct. There were no bullies in Aberdeen. The word didn’t exist. You either took shit or you didn’t. Lots of people around to help you find out which one you were going to be.dflea said:
Have you even been to Aberdeen? A couple trips through town and I'm getting thoughts of jumping off a bridge. creep was a rough and tumble yute - not a creative artist type. Those dudes get beat up in a town like Aberdeen or Shelton.YellowSnow said:
I can't figure out why these pussies were so fucking depressed. Wasn't Seattle way cooler in the late 80's and early 90's? And we? were winning Rose Bowls.Fishpo31 said:When Cobain died, I didn't get it, but I wasn't listening to it, or grunge, for that matter. I slowly began to listen to it...the music was good, but the lyrics intrigued me. When Cornell kicked, a buddy of mine (a Marine) who loved SG, called him a pussy for tapping out. It clicked then, for me. These guys had pretty fucked up upbringings early on, for whatever reason, started writing about it.
Cornell, Eddie, Layne, et.al are/were socially inept, insecure, self-conscious, and deeply flawed people. Man In a Box or Rusty Cage or Alive didn't come from a creative writing class at the U. Cobain wrote In Bloom about all the bros raging at their shows that didn't get what it was about. Eddie pushed back on releasing Black as a single, and couldn't get thru it on stage early in their career...Dark shit for them...The pain created the art...my 2 cents...
I mean fuck @creepycoug had to be a lil swarthy kid getting beat up by those logging camp liberals and you don't see him taking the easy way out.
Aberdeen is where I learned the lesson that you fight even if you’re going to get your ass kicked. You just make sure the fucker pays for the trouble and walks away with some pain for the next few days. This all gets sorted out early in junior high school.
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#2 Back in Black
In creep's day, the tough yutes were rocking Back In Black and having keggers out on Reynvaans bar on the Hump. This album deserves its place in the finals.creepycoug said:
All jokes aside, the flea is correct. There were no bullies in Aberdeen. The word didn’t exist. You either took shit or you didn’t. Lots of people around to help you find out which one you were going to be.dflea said:
Have you even been to Aberdeen? A couple trips through town and I'm getting thoughts of jumping off a bridge. creep was a rough and tumble yute - not a creative artist type. Those dudes get beat up in a town like Aberdeen or Shelton.YellowSnow said:
I can't figure out why these pussies were so fucking depressed. Wasn't Seattle way cooler in the late 80's and early 90's? And we? were winning Rose Bowls.Fishpo31 said:When Cobain died, I didn't get it, but I wasn't listening to it, or grunge, for that matter. I slowly began to listen to it...the music was good, but the lyrics intrigued me. When Cornell kicked, a buddy of mine (a Marine) who loved SG, called him a pussy for tapping out. It clicked then, for me. These guys had pretty fucked up upbringings early on, for whatever reason, started writing about it.
Cornell, Eddie, Layne, et.al are/were socially inept, insecure, self-conscious, and deeply flawed people. Man In a Box or Rusty Cage or Alive didn't come from a creative writing class at the U. Cobain wrote In Bloom about all the bros raging at their shows that didn't get what it was about. Eddie pushed back on releasing Black as a single, and couldn't get thru it on stage early in their career...Dark shit for them...The pain created the art...my 2 cents...
I mean fuck @creepycoug had to be a lil swarthy kid getting beat up by those logging camp liberals and you don't see him taking the easy way out.
Aberdeen is where I learned the lesson that you fight even if you’re going to get your ass kicked. You just make sure the fucker pays for the trouble and walks away with some pain for the next few days. This all gets sorted out early in junior high school.
The ‘Deen was full of rough characters in my day. -
#2 Back in BlackAre we? voting on one of two albums or having a referendum on grunge music????????
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#1 Nevermind
Yes, yes it was. Height of crack cocaine, height of gang violence. Pre gentrified CD. Pre 'International District.' Pre or just at beginning of 'America's most Livable City.' For struggling musicians, throw in super high rates of heroin use, and you get your depressed answer. I could go on and on about that time in Seattle, but despite the warts it was a good time. Just kind of the start of what made Seattle so great in the mid to late 90's. Pretty certain 91 or 92 had the highest number of murders in the last 40 years. This year is getting close. Late 80's definitely started the transition to the 90's Seattle most people love.YellowSnow said:
I can't figure out why these pussies were so fucking depressed. Wasn't Seattle way cooler in the late 80's and early 90's? And we? were winning Rose Bowls.Fishpo31 said:When Cobain died, I didn't get it, but I wasn't listening to it, or grunge, for that matter. I slowly began to listen to it...the music was good, but the lyrics intrigued me. When Cornell kicked, a buddy of mine (a Marine) who loved SG, called him a pussy for tapping out. It clicked then, for me. These guys had pretty fucked up upbringings early on, for whatever reason, started writing about it.
Cornell, Eddie, Layne, et.al are/were socially inept, insecure, self-conscious, and deeply flawed people. Man In a Box or Rusty Cage or Alive didn't come from a creative writing class at the U. Cobain wrote In Bloom about all the bros raging at their shows that didn't get what it was about. Eddie pushed back on releasing Black as a single, and couldn't get thru it on stage early in their career...Dark shit for them...The pain created the art...my 2 cents...
I mean fuck @creepycoug had to be a lil swarthy kid getting beat up by those logging camp liberals and you don't see him taking the easy way out. -
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All excellent points.huskyhooligan said:
Yes, yes it was. Height of crack cocaine, height of gang violence. Pre gentrified CD. Pre 'International District.' Pre or just at beginning of 'America's most Livable City.' For struggling musicians, throw in super high rates of heroin use, and you get your depressed answer. I could go on and on about that time in Seattle, but despite the warts it was a good time. Just kind of the start of what made Seattle so great in the mid to late 90's. Pretty certain 91 or 92 had the highest number of murders in the last 40 years. This year is getting close. Late 80's definitely started the transition to the 90's Seattle most people love.YellowSnow said:
I can't figure out why these pussies were so fucking depressed. Wasn't Seattle way cooler in the late 80's and early 90's? And we? were winning Rose Bowls.Fishpo31 said:When Cobain died, I didn't get it, but I wasn't listening to it, or grunge, for that matter. I slowly began to listen to it...the music was good, but the lyrics intrigued me. When Cornell kicked, a buddy of mine (a Marine) who loved SG, called him a pussy for tapping out. It clicked then, for me. These guys had pretty fucked up upbringings early on, for whatever reason, started writing about it.
Cornell, Eddie, Layne, et.al are/were socially inept, insecure, self-conscious, and deeply flawed people. Man In a Box or Rusty Cage or Alive didn't come from a creative writing class at the U. Cobain wrote In Bloom about all the bros raging at their shows that didn't get what it was about. Eddie pushed back on releasing Black as a single, and couldn't get thru it on stage early in their career...Dark shit for them...The pain created the art...my 2 cents...
I mean fuck @creepycoug had to be a lil swarthy kid getting beat up by those logging camp liberals and you don't see him taking the easy way out. -
#2 Back in BlackBiggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.
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That ain't it. Anyone can afford to live in Aberdeen today. Still, not very cool.BleachedAnusDawg said:Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.
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Tell me more about when Aberdeen was ever a population center. It is 100% it. It's why Bellevue has never been cool.creepycoug said:
That ain't it. Anyone can afford to live in Aberdeen today. Still, not very cool.BleachedAnusDawg said:Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.
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@PurpleJ, true?BleachedAnusDawg said:Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.
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I, for one, appreciate the high cost. It keeps out the riff raff and indicates a strong economis. That is, if you still believe in free market economis.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Tell me more about when Aberdeen was ever a population center. It is 100% it. It's why Bellevue has never been cool.creepycoug said:
That ain't it. Anyone can afford to live in Aberdeen today. Still, not very cool.BleachedAnusDawg said:Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.
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This is a valid point @creepycoug . My old Seattle house had some 60s era multi family too close. Way too much riff raff. Now it’s no pours allowed for me.creepycoug said:
I, for one, appreciate the high cost. It keeps out the riff raff and indicates a strong economis. That is, if you still believe in free market economis.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Tell me more about when Aberdeen was ever a population center. It is 100% it. It's why Bellevue has never been cool.creepycoug said:
That ain't it. Anyone can afford to live in Aberdeen today. Still, not very cool.BleachedAnusDawg said:Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.
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For the record I completely agree with you on that.creepycoug said:
I, for one, appreciate the high cost. It keeps out the riff raff and indicates a strong economis. That is, if you still believe in free market economis.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Tell me more about when Aberdeen was ever a population center. It is 100% it. It's why Bellevue has never been cool.creepycoug said:
That ain't it. Anyone can afford to live in Aberdeen today. Still, not very cool.BleachedAnusDawg said:Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.
