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HH Favorite Rock Album Final 4 - #1 Nevermind vs #2 Back in Black

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  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter
    #2 Back in Black
    Are we? voting on one of two albums or having a referendum on grunge music????????
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  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,012 Swaye's Wigwam
    #1 Nevermind
    YellowSnow said:

    Fishpo31 said:

    When Cobain died, I didn't get it, but I wasn't listening to it, or grunge, for that matter. I slowly began to listen to it...the music was good, but the lyrics intrigued me. When Cornell kicked, a buddy of mine (a Marine) who loved SG, called him a pussy for tapping out. It clicked then, for me. These guys had pretty fucked up upbringings early on, for whatever reason, started writing about it.

    Cornell, Eddie, Layne, et.al are/were socially inept, insecure, self-conscious, and deeply flawed people. Man In a Box or Rusty Cage or Alive didn't come from a creative writing class at the U. Cobain wrote In Bloom about all the bros raging at their shows that didn't get what it was about. Eddie pushed back on releasing Black as a single, and couldn't get thru it on stage early in their career...Dark shit for them...The pain created the art...my 2 cents...

    I can't figure out why these pussies were so fucking depressed. Wasn't Seattle way cooler in the late 80's and early 90's? And we? were winning Rose Bowls.

    I mean fuck @creepycoug had to be a lil swarthy kid getting beat up by those logging camp liberals and you don't see him taking the easy way out.
    Yes, yes it was. Height of crack cocaine, height of gang violence. Pre gentrified CD. Pre 'International District.' Pre or just at beginning of 'America's most Livable City.' For struggling musicians, throw in super high rates of heroin use, and you get your depressed answer. I could go on and on about that time in Seattle, but despite the warts it was a good time. Just kind of the start of what made Seattle so great in the mid to late 90's. Pretty certain 91 or 92 had the highest number of murders in the last 40 years. This year is getting close. Late 80's definitely started the transition to the 90's Seattle most people love.
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  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter
    #2 Back in Black
    huskyhooligan said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Fishpo31 said:

    When Cobain died, I didn't get it, but I wasn't listening to it, or grunge, for that matter. I slowly began to listen to it...the music was good, but the lyrics intrigued me. When Cornell kicked, a buddy of mine (a Marine) who loved SG, called him a pussy for tapping out. It clicked then, for me. These guys had pretty fucked up upbringings early on, for whatever reason, started writing about it.

    Cornell, Eddie, Layne, et.al are/were socially inept, insecure, self-conscious, and deeply flawed people. Man In a Box or Rusty Cage or Alive didn't come from a creative writing class at the U. Cobain wrote In Bloom about all the bros raging at their shows that didn't get what it was about. Eddie pushed back on releasing Black as a single, and couldn't get thru it on stage early in their career...Dark shit for them...The pain created the art...my 2 cents...

    I can't figure out why these pussies were so fucking depressed. Wasn't Seattle way cooler in the late 80's and early 90's? And we? were winning Rose Bowls.

    I mean fuck @creepycoug had to be a lil swarthy kid getting beat up by those logging camp liberals and you don't see him taking the easy way out.
    Yes, yes it was. Height of crack cocaine, height of gang violence. Pre gentrified CD. Pre 'International District.' Pre or just at beginning of 'America's most Livable City.' For struggling musicians, throw in super high rates of heroin use, and you get your depressed answer. I could go on and on about that time in Seattle, but despite the warts it was a good time. Just kind of the start of what made Seattle so great in the mid to late 90's. Pretty certain 91 or 92 had the highest number of murders in the last 40 years. This year is getting close. Late 80's definitely started the transition to the 90's Seattle most people love.
    All excellent points.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,725 Standard Supporter
    #2 Back in Black
    Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,278
    #2 Back in Black
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.

    That ain't it. Anyone can afford to live in Aberdeen today. Still, not very cool.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,725 Standard Supporter
    #2 Back in Black
    creepycoug said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.

    That ain't it. Anyone can afford to live in Aberdeen today. Still, not very cool.
    Tell me more about when Aberdeen was ever a population center. It is 100% it. It's why Bellevue has never been cool.
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  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter
    #2 Back in Black
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.

    @PurpleJ, true?
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,278
    #2 Back in Black
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    creepycoug said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.

    That ain't it. Anyone can afford to live in Aberdeen today. Still, not very cool.
    Tell me more about when Aberdeen was ever a population center. It is 100% it. It's why Bellevue has never been cool.
    I, for one, appreciate the high cost. It keeps out the riff raff and indicates a strong economis. That is, if you still believe in free market economis.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,695 Founders Club
    #2 Back in Black
    creepycoug said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    creepycoug said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.

    That ain't it. Anyone can afford to live in Aberdeen today. Still, not very cool.
    Tell me more about when Aberdeen was ever a population center. It is 100% it. It's why Bellevue has never been cool.
    I, for one, appreciate the high cost. It keeps out the riff raff and indicates a strong economis. That is, if you still believe in free market economis.
    This is a valid point @creepycoug . My old Seattle house had some 60s era multi family too close. Way too much riff raff. Now it’s no pours allowed for me.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,725 Standard Supporter
    #2 Back in Black
    creepycoug said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    creepycoug said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Biggest reason Seattle was cooler then versus now is because anyone could afford to live in the city. Now you have to pull down six figures. Tacoma is a cooler place to be these days.

    That ain't it. Anyone can afford to live in Aberdeen today. Still, not very cool.
    Tell me more about when Aberdeen was ever a population center. It is 100% it. It's why Bellevue has never been cool.
    I, for one, appreciate the high cost. It keeps out the riff raff and indicates a strong economis. That is, if you still believe in free market economis.
    For the record I completely agree with you on that.
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