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HH Favorite Rock Album Final 4 - #1 Nevermind vs #2 Back in Black
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HH Favorite Rock Album Final 4 - #1 Nevermind vs #2 Back in Black 34 votes
#1 Nevermind
50%
17 votes
#2 Back in Black
50%
17 votes
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#2 Back in Blackthis is a rock tourney ...not grunge
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#2 Back in Black
Nevermind rocks pretty hard. And I'd argue it's a more important moment in rock history than Back in Black. However, as a matter of personal taste AC DC is just further into my wheelhouse than the grunge era.YouKnowIt said:this is a rock tourney ...not grunge
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#1 NevermindWhoever wins this gets my championship vote
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#2 Back in Black
Back And Black will I think. If it's Nevermind, gotta see who wins from Dark Side vs Hendrix.whlinder said:Whoever wins this gets my championship vote
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#1 NevermindKrist is embracing the bald is beautiful look.
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#1 NevermindMrs. Coon said that this is a serious case of 'Sophie's Choice'. Had to go with Nevermind with this one, so let the bullying begin from @dflea and I'll take my beat down like a man at the AM/PM porking lot on Wallace Kneeland.
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#2 Back in Black
Big tim douchecanoealopeciadawg said:Krist is embracing the bald is beautiful look.
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#2 Back in BlackI cannot believe what I am seeing.
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#2 Back in Black
Never underestimate the homer doog vote. We may end up with Hendrix vs Cobain final. Doog doog doog!!Swaye said:I cannot believe what I am seeing.
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#1 Nevermind
He’s not embracing it. Still has the horseshoe. Never understood the horseshoe. Shave it off, get a chain, maybe a nice watch and pull off the bald head.alopeciadawg said:Krist is embracing the bald is beautiful look.
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#2 Back in Black
This is every day of my life.Swaye said:I cannot believe what I am seeing.
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#2 Back in BlackDidn’t bother voting in the primaries, casting my ballot when it matters!
Nevermind is mor important in the history of Rock, you get no argument from me there...but to my ears it hasn’t aged well. (Maybe because it was overplayed?)
Back in Black however has grown on me as I’ve gotten older. It’s part of my new “DDJ Embraces Her Inner Cobra Kai” soundtrack. When I want to feel badass, I play that album.
Nevermind just makes me sad or angry. -
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Do tellSwaye said:I cannot believe what I am seeing.
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#2 Back in BlackAll of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
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#1 Nevermind
@creepycoug is the only one here from Aberdeen that I'm aware of.BleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
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#2 Back in Black
Only locals know they're from Aberdeen though. And that somehow makes them even cooler to the hipsters here.dnc said:
@creepycoug is the only one here from Aberdeen that I'm aware of.BleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
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#2 Back in Black
It's a good thing you voted with @dnc . Now that's real bullying.Laocoön said:Mrs. Coon said that this is a serious case of 'Sophie's Choice'. Had to go with Nevermind with this one, so let the bullying begin from @dflea and I'll take my beat down like a man at the AM/PM porking lot on Wallace Kneeland.
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#2 Back in Black
Clever.GrandpaSankey said:
Do tellSwaye said:I cannot believe what I am seeing.
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#2 Back in Black
And I can tell you we rocked the fuck out to BIB. And when the Harbor crew gets together to this day, we still do.dnc said:
@creepycoug is the only one here from Aberdeen that I'm aware of.BleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
Just a great album through and through. I like Nirvana and NVM, but when I want to get my Ya Yas out, as Yella said, ACDC is more in my wheel house.
With that said, Hendrix should win this whole thing. He is on another level IMO. -
#2 Back in Black
Yes, be "objective" with your musical tastes. GTFOOHBleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
Kurt's raspy voice was his thing. It's like saying Picasso was a shitty artist because his faces didn't look real enough.
As for technical talent, while I'm not one to claim expert knowledge on the matter, I've been told by a lot of musicians that ACDC, like the Beatles, were pretty limited technically. Whether they were capable of playing more technically complicated music, who knows. But it was never the point. They were the originals of what they did and people liked it. Same can be said for Nirvana. They ushered in another genre. Seems important. -
#2 Back in Black
I'm comparing talent to the field, not just AC/DC. A Picasso is a stand-alone masterpiece identifiable to him, only. Lots of people can grunt out Cobain-quality vocals while taking a dump.creepycoug said:
Yes, be "objective" with your musical tastes. GTFOOHBleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
Kurt's raspy voice was his thing. It's like saying Picasso was a shitty artist because his faces didn't look real enough.
As for technical talent, while I'm not one to claim expert knowledge on the matter, I've been told by a lot of musicians that ACDC, like the Beatles, were pretty limited technically. Whether they were capable of playing more technically complicated music, who knows. But it was never the point. They were the originals of what they did and people liked it. Same can be said for Nirvana. They ushered in another genre. Seems important.
I will die on this hill. Nirvana was lightning in a bottle for a specific point in time, but if you're making a best of rock album they don't belong anywhere on the playlist. Grunge is not a highlight of rock history. -
#1 Nevermind
Bigtim DISAGREEBleachedAnusDawg said:
I'm comparing talent to the field, not just AC/DC. A Picasso is a stand-alone masterpiece identifiable to him, only. Lots of people can grunt out Cobain-quality vocals while taking a dump.creepycoug said:
Yes, be "objective" with your musical tastes. GTFOOHBleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
Kurt's raspy voice was his thing. It's like saying Picasso was a shitty artist because his faces didn't look real enough.
As for technical talent, while I'm not one to claim expert knowledge on the matter, I've been told by a lot of musicians that ACDC, like the Beatles, were pretty limited technically. Whether they were capable of playing more technically complicated music, who knows. But it was never the point. They were the originals of what they did and people liked it. Same can be said for Nirvana. They ushered in another genre. Seems important.
I will die on this hill. Nirvana was lightning in a bottle for a specific point in time, but if you're making a best of rock album they don't belong anywhere on the playlist. Grunge is not a highlight of rock history.
Grunge was rock's last great movement. One could probably argue it was real music's last hurrah. Nothing since has come especially close aside from perhaps a few essential rap albums.
It's hard to imagine we'll ever see anything take over the world like Nevermind again. -
#2 Back in Black
Bruh, I've driven along the muddy banks of the Wishkah. Almost pushed @dflea in.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Only locals know they're from Aberdeen though. And that somehow makes them even cooler to the hipsters here.dnc said:
@creepycoug is the only one here from Aberdeen that I'm aware of.BleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
No one should be arguing the Cobain was a some virtuoso or talented singer. Some of the greatest artists in history were mediocre musicians at best and some of the most technically gifted made shitty music. The list of examples is endless.
He was a great songwriter and crafted a unique sound that moved the genre forward. As @dnc stated it's really the last essential time period in rock. -
#2 Back in BlackThe pole will close tonight at 8PM. If there is a tie, the Shoppe owner acts as President of the Senate.
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#2 Back in Black
And die you will.BleachedAnusDawg said:
I'm comparing talent to the field, not just AC/DC. A Picasso is a stand-alone masterpiece identifiable to him, only. Lots of people can grunt out Cobain-quality vocals while taking a dump.creepycoug said:
Yes, be "objective" with your musical tastes. GTFOOHBleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
Kurt's raspy voice was his thing. It's like saying Picasso was a shitty artist because his faces didn't look real enough.
As for technical talent, while I'm not one to claim expert knowledge on the matter, I've been told by a lot of musicians that ACDC, like the Beatles, were pretty limited technically. Whether they were capable of playing more technically complicated music, who knows. But it was never the point. They were the originals of what they did and people liked it. Same can be said for Nirvana. They ushered in another genre. Seems important.
I will die on this hill. Nirvana was lightning in a bottle for a specific point in time, but if you're making a best of rock album they don't belong anywhere on the playlist. Grunge is not a highlight of rock history.
A million talented EMO kids can replicate a Picasso. Hell, one of my kids who has no interest in art but nonetheless can draw anything could do it easily.
But they're not Picasso. They didn't think of it. They don't have his story. He was the one. EXACTLY the same thing can be said of Cobain.
Grunge absolutely is a highlight of rock history. You are working WAY too hard on this. It's easier and more efficient to just say you don't like Nirvana. Nobody can argue that point. I was going to say the same thing about Floyd. It's just never been my thing. I have friends who fucking hate Steely Dan and I love them. It's when you try to reduce it to some mathematical proof that you get off the rails. You tried with "not technical", and that didn't work because there are too many examples of all-tim bands that played limited chords. So what? A lot of people can scream like Janis Joplin, but there was only one Janis Joplin.
Not saying Nirvana and NVM should top the list; but "don't belong anywhere on the playlist" sounds like a guy who has an axe to grind. -
#2 Back in Black
And people forget (is that a HCH all-tim lead-in or what?), Grunge literally rescued the world from the increasing absurdity of the LA-originated hair band genre.dnc said:
Bigtim DISAGREEBleachedAnusDawg said:
I'm comparing talent to the field, not just AC/DC. A Picasso is a stand-alone masterpiece identifiable to him, only. Lots of people can grunt out Cobain-quality vocals while taking a dump.creepycoug said:
Yes, be "objective" with your musical tastes. GTFOOHBleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
Kurt's raspy voice was his thing. It's like saying Picasso was a shitty artist because his faces didn't look real enough.
As for technical talent, while I'm not one to claim expert knowledge on the matter, I've been told by a lot of musicians that ACDC, like the Beatles, were pretty limited technically. Whether they were capable of playing more technically complicated music, who knows. But it was never the point. They were the originals of what they did and people liked it. Same can be said for Nirvana. They ushered in another genre. Seems important.
I will die on this hill. Nirvana was lightning in a bottle for a specific point in time, but if you're making a best of rock album they don't belong anywhere on the playlist. Grunge is not a highlight of rock history.
Grunge was rock's last great movement. One could probably argue it was real music's last hurrah. Nothing since has come especially close aside from perhaps a few essential rap albums.
It's hard to imagine we'll ever see anything take over the world like Nevermind again.
I love those MTV interviews with those dudes who openly admit watching Nirvana and Grunge crash in and basically concede the point. One of the lead singers of one of those bands - forget which - said he watched Nirvana or PJ or whichever live and said to himself, "We're fucked. We're over." He knew it was new, fresh and better and that it was going to reveal them all for the clowns they'd all become.
Cherry Fucking Pie. Seriously.
And Cobain's voice would be shitty for any other genre but it worked pretty well for what he was doing. -
#1 Nevermind
It was Jon Bon Jovi IIRCcreepycoug said:
And people forget (is that a HCH all-tim lead-in or what?), Grunge literally rescued the world from the increasing absurdity of the LA-originated hair band genre.dnc said:
Bigtim DISAGREEBleachedAnusDawg said:
I'm comparing talent to the field, not just AC/DC. A Picasso is a stand-alone masterpiece identifiable to him, only. Lots of people can grunt out Cobain-quality vocals while taking a dump.creepycoug said:
Yes, be "objective" with your musical tastes. GTFOOHBleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
Kurt's raspy voice was his thing. It's like saying Picasso was a shitty artist because his faces didn't look real enough.
As for technical talent, while I'm not one to claim expert knowledge on the matter, I've been told by a lot of musicians that ACDC, like the Beatles, were pretty limited technically. Whether they were capable of playing more technically complicated music, who knows. But it was never the point. They were the originals of what they did and people liked it. Same can be said for Nirvana. They ushered in another genre. Seems important.
I will die on this hill. Nirvana was lightning in a bottle for a specific point in time, but if you're making a best of rock album they don't belong anywhere on the playlist. Grunge is not a highlight of rock history.
Grunge was rock's last great movement. One could probably argue it was real music's last hurrah. Nothing since has come especially close aside from perhaps a few essential rap albums.
It's hard to imagine we'll ever see anything take over the world like Nevermind again.
I love those MTV interviews with those dudes who openly admit watching Nirvana and Grunge crash in and basically concede the point. One of the lead singers of one of those bands - forget which - said he watched Nirvana or PJ or whichever live and said to himself, "We're fucked. We're over." He knew it was new, fresh and better and that it was going to reveal them all for the clowns they'd all become.
Cherry Fucking Pie. Seriously.
And Cobain's voice would be shitty for any other genre but it worked pretty well for what he was doing. -
#2 Back in Black
Of course @creepycoug likes Steely Dan.creepycoug said:
And die you will.BleachedAnusDawg said:
I'm comparing talent to the field, not just AC/DC. A Picasso is a stand-alone masterpiece identifiable to him, only. Lots of people can grunt out Cobain-quality vocals while taking a dump.creepycoug said:
Yes, be "objective" with your musical tastes. GTFOOHBleachedAnusDawg said:All of the albums in this tourny...Nirvana's talent as musicians outside of Grohl is a joke compared to most, the music is, by comparison, shit with awful vocals. JFC guys. Let go of the faggy hometown hero shit and be objective.
Kurt's raspy voice was his thing. It's like saying Picasso was a shitty artist because his faces didn't look real enough.
As for technical talent, while I'm not one to claim expert knowledge on the matter, I've been told by a lot of musicians that ACDC, like the Beatles, were pretty limited technically. Whether they were capable of playing more technically complicated music, who knows. But it was never the point. They were the originals of what they did and people liked it. Same can be said for Nirvana. They ushered in another genre. Seems important.
I will die on this hill. Nirvana was lightning in a bottle for a specific point in time, but if you're making a best of rock album they don't belong anywhere on the playlist. Grunge is not a highlight of rock history.
A million talented EMO kids can replicate a Picasso. Hell, one of my kids who has no interest in art but nonetheless can draw anything could do it easily.
But they're not Picasso. They didn't think of it. They don't have his story. He was the one. EXACTLY the same thing can be said of Cobain.
Grunge absolutely is a highlight of rock history. You are working WAY too hard on this. It's easier and more efficient to just say you don't like Nirvana. Nobody can argue that point. I was going to say the same thing about Floyd. It's just never been my thing. I have friends who fucking hate Steely Dan and I love them. It's when you try to reduce it to some mathematical proof that you get off the rails. You tried with "not technical", and that didn't work because there are too many examples of all-tim bands that played limited chords. So what? A lot of people can scream like Janis Joplin, but there was only one Janis Joplin.
Not saying Nirvana and NVM should top the list; but "don't belong anywhere on the playlist" sounds like a guy who has an axe to grind.
P.S. Post moar on my bored with the philosopher king stuff. Gotta earn your keep if you're gonna be on scholarship.
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