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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Gladstone said:

    That is goddamn perfect lmao. I still watch the NBA (FTLOTG) but the messaging got annoying months ago. I don’t like being told I’m an inherently evil person because I’m white nor do I like being lectured on what a terrible country this is that has afforded them opportunities most would literally die for their families to have. While they praise China. Fuck outta here.

    your fragility is showing
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    Gladstone said:

    That is goddamn perfect lmao. I still watch the NBA (FTLOTG) but the messaging got annoying months ago. I don’t like being told I’m an inherently evil person because I’m white nor do I like being lectured on what a terrible country this is that has afforded them opportunities most would literally die for their families to have. While they praise China. Fuck outta here.

    I haven’t watched more than a few min of a couple games, but feel similarly. They gotta get hit where it hurts. That happened with China so they cater to them. It can happen here if enough people don’t watch.

    I’m not sold that people aren’t watching. The ratings are low but the bubble and Finals being held in October have something to do with that.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    Houhusky said:

    Gladstone said:

    That is goddamn perfect lmao. I still watch the NBA (FTLOTG) but the messaging got annoying months ago. I don’t like being told I’m an inherently evil person because I’m white nor do I like being lectured on what a terrible country this is that has afforded them opportunities most would literally die for their families to have. While they praise China. Fuck outta here.

    I haven’t watched more than a few min of a couple games, but feel similarly. They gotta get hit where it hurts. That happened with China so they cater to them. It can happen here if enough people don’t watch.

    I’m not sold that people aren’t watching. The ratings are low but the bubble and Finals being held in October have something to do with that.
    Whats the logic behind the finals being in October decreasing viewership? Its down 60% from last years shitty numbers.

    FWIW the groups of guys that I would get together with to watch games the past few years no longer talks about the NBA at all... We still get together and get drunk it just isn't centered around the NBA like it was for the past 4-5 years. We all just pretend we know what we are watching in the UFC now.

    The UFC product is infinitely better for the group, 5 min rounds with minimal commercials once the fight starts, easy for all of us to throw down shitty bets on each fight throughout the night, plenty of time between fights to piss, grill a burger, pat the wife on the ass, and make more drinks and best of all minimal political shaming when we are all just trying to chill.
    In June basketball has the center of attention. Baseball doesn't matter yet even to people who care and the NFL has had the draft and free agency and is quiet until July

    People expect the Finals in June. And Pandemic Arena sucks. Fuck the fake noise. Broadcast the smack talk.

    Its like the Masters in November. I bet the ratings suck unless Tiger

    The only reason I'm watching the NBA is LeBron
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    I could have just said the NFL takes all the oxygen out of the room
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,076
    Fuck. Miami is in the finals? Really?

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited October 2020

    Gladstone said:

    That is goddamn perfect lmao. I still watch the NBA (FTLOTG) but the messaging got annoying months ago. I don’t like being told I’m an inherently evil person because I’m white nor do I like being lectured on what a terrible country this is that has afforded them opportunities most would literally die for their families to have. While they praise China. Fuck outta here.

    I haven’t watched more than a few min of a couple games, but feel similarly. They gotta get hit where it hurts. That happened with China so they cater to them. It can happen here if enough people don’t watch.

    I’m not sold that people aren’t watching. The ratings are low but the bubble and Finals being held in October have something to do with that.
    I would normally agree, but the NFL is also seeing a major ratings dip. They continued to reach until they went too far. Eventually you piss of a large portion of your fan base. People have learned to adjust to life without sports, now you want to treat them like shit? Good marketing strategy as always. There’s a saying and it’s proving itself here. Get woke, get broke.

    What will happen is sport league revenue will decline, leading to salaries declining and blaming it on whitey. Sorry athletes, but you work for the fans, we own you. You piss enough of us off, we stop buying tickets and we stop watching, and in the end, you lose.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,076
    edited October 2020

    NBA to leave BLM, social justice messaging 'off the floor' next season, says Commissioner Adam Silver

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-says-social-justice-messages-largely-left-delivered-off-floor-next-season

    Money talks, suckers walk.

    Off the court with 10 seconds left.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    Inside the article is a nice fight between Cruz and Cuban
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,570 Standard Supporter
    Chicom Cuban? No wonder he hates Cruz and Trump.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,227 Standard Supporter

    NBA to leave BLM, social justice messaging 'off the floor' next season, says Commissioner Adam Silver

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-says-social-justice-messages-largely-left-delivered-off-floor-next-season

    Money talks, suckers walk.

    Off the court with 10 seconds left.
    I get bashing LeBron for certain things but leaving with 10 seconds left, down 11 is not one of them.
    Sure it is. Shit message to send as leader of the team.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419

    NBA to leave BLM, social justice messaging 'off the floor' next season, says Commissioner Adam Silver

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-says-social-justice-messages-largely-left-delivered-off-floor-next-season

    Money talks, suckers walk.

    Off the court with 10 seconds left.
    I get bashing LeBron for certain things but leaving with 10 seconds left, down 11 is not one of them.
    Sure it is. Shit message to send as leader of the team.
    Oh stop. You aren't this soft and if it were literally any other player in the world this would be a nothingburger story. This isn't the 1989 Pistons ragequitting here.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,092 Founders Club

    Houhusky said:

    Gladstone said:

    That is goddamn perfect lmao. I still watch the NBA (FTLOTG) but the messaging got annoying months ago. I don’t like being told I’m an inherently evil person because I’m white nor do I like being lectured on what a terrible country this is that has afforded them opportunities most would literally die for their families to have. While they praise China. Fuck outta here.

    I haven’t watched more than a few min of a couple games, but feel similarly. They gotta get hit where it hurts. That happened with China so they cater to them. It can happen here if enough people don’t watch.

    I’m not sold that people aren’t watching. The ratings are low but the bubble and Finals being held in October have something to do with that.
    Whats the logic behind the finals being in October decreasing viewership? Its down 60% from last years shitty numbers.

    FWIW the groups of guys that I would get together with to watch games the past few years no longer talks about the NBA at all... We still get together and get drunk it just isn't centered around the NBA like it was for the past 4-5 years. We all just pretend we know what we are watching in the UFC now.

    The UFC product is infinitely better for the group, 5 min rounds with minimal commercials once the fight starts, easy for all of us to throw down shitty bets on each fight throughout the night, plenty of time between fights to piss, grill a burger, pat the wife on the ass, and make more drinks and best of all minimal political shaming when we are all just trying to chill.
    In June basketball has the center of attention. Baseball doesn't matter yet even to people who care and the NFL has had the draft and free agency and is quiet until July

    People expect the Finals in June. And Pandemic Arena sucks. Fuck the fake noise. Broadcast the smack talk.

    Its like the Masters in November. I bet the ratings suck unless Tiger

    The only reason I'm watching the NBA is LeBron
    I'm a Lakers fan and I'm not watching. Fuck LeBron. I hope he fucking loses.

    #freehongkong
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    I want to tie the Celtics at 17
  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,672

    Gladstone said:

    That is goddamn perfect lmao. I still watch the NBA (FTLOTG) but the messaging got annoying months ago. I don’t like being told I’m an inherently evil person because I’m white nor do I like being lectured on what a terrible country this is that has afforded them opportunities most would literally die for their families to have. While they praise China. Fuck outta here.

    I haven’t watched more than a few min of a couple games, but feel similarly. They gotta get hit where it hurts. That happened with China so they cater to them. It can happen here if enough people don’t watch.

    I’m not sold that people aren’t watching. The ratings are low but the bubble and Finals being held in October have something to do with that.
    WTF???

    Rating are low but it is not due to people not watching.
    Can someone explain this, please?
    My bad. Here I thought people watching is what made ratings.

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    Gladstone said:

    NBA to leave BLM, social justice messaging 'off the floor' next season, says Commissioner Adam Silver

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-says-social-justice-messages-largely-left-delivered-off-floor-next-season

    "We're completely committed to standing for social justice and racial equality (except in China where we support injustice, racial inequality, genocide, concentration camps, oh and the categorical lack of freedom)"

    - Adam Silver
    I don’t like the bowing to China, but I did get why players were upset with Morey. His comments did nothing to help. They weren’t going to change anything and they just pissed China off. And it was the players that were in China that had to answer for it.

    LeBron made it way worse with the bullshit about it affecting him financially, mentally, and emotionally tho. It was so disingenuous and the hypocrisy of him being all about BLM and not giving a fuck about China is so fucking irritating (Pete gif).
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club



    Gladstone said:

    NBA to leave BLM, social justice messaging 'off the floor' next season, says Commissioner Adam Silver

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-says-social-justice-messages-largely-left-delivered-off-floor-next-season

    "We're completely committed to standing for social justice and racial equality (except in China where we support injustice, racial inequality, genocide, concentration camps, oh and the categorical lack of freedom)"

    - Adam Silver
    I don’t like the bowing to China, but I did get why players were upset with Morey. His comments did nothing to help. They weren’t going to change anything and they just pissed China off. And it was the players that were in China that had to answer for it.

    LeBron made it way worse with the bullshit about it affecting him financially, mentally, and emotionally tho. It was so disingenuous and the hypocrisy of him being all about BLM and not giving a fuck about China is so fucking irritating (Pete gif).
    I don't agree about Morey

    Fuck China 🇨🇳

    He exposed the hypocrisy. That's a good thing
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137



    Gladstone said:

    NBA to leave BLM, social justice messaging 'off the floor' next season, says Commissioner Adam Silver

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-says-social-justice-messages-largely-left-delivered-off-floor-next-season

    "We're completely committed to standing for social justice and racial equality (except in China where we support injustice, racial inequality, genocide, concentration camps, oh and the categorical lack of freedom)"

    - Adam Silver
    I don’t like the bowing to China, but I did get why players were upset with Morey. His comments did nothing to help. They weren’t going to change anything and they just pissed China off. And it was the players that were in China that had to answer for it.

    LeBron made it way worse with the bullshit about it affecting him financially, mentally, and emotionally tho. It was so disingenuous and the hypocrisy of him being all about BLM and not giving a fuck about China is so fucking irritating (Pete gif).
    I don't agree about Morey

    Fuck China 🇨🇳

    He exposed the hypocrisy. That's a good thing
    It did nothing. It was a huge financial mistake by him. There aren’t many businesses (no successful ones) where you can make that kind of financial mistake and it’s celebrated.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,416 Founders Club

    Inside the article is a nice fight between Cruz and Cuban

    Julio Cruz?
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,227 Standard Supporter
    Gladstone said:

    NBA to leave BLM, social justice messaging 'off the floor' next season, says Commissioner Adam Silver

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-says-social-justice-messages-largely-left-delivered-off-floor-next-season

    Money talks, suckers walk.

    Off the court with 10 seconds left.
    I get bashing LeBron for certain things but leaving with 10 seconds left, down 11 is not one of them.
    Sure it is. Shit message to send as leader of the team.
    Oh stop. You aren't this soft and if it were literally any other player in the world this would be a nothingburger story. This isn't the 1989 Pistons ragequitting here.
    Different standards when you're LeBron. He knows he has to live up to them or get shit flung his way.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited October 2020
    but he has four years of high school under his belt and is the fastest guy on the field. Will do anything to win the game.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165



    Gladstone said:

    NBA to leave BLM, social justice messaging 'off the floor' next season, says Commissioner Adam Silver

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-says-social-justice-messages-largely-left-delivered-off-floor-next-season

    "We're completely committed to standing for social justice and racial equality (except in China where we support injustice, racial inequality, genocide, concentration camps, oh and the categorical lack of freedom)"

    - Adam Silver
    I don’t like the bowing to China, but I did get why players were upset with Morey. His comments did nothing to help. They weren’t going to change anything and they just pissed China off. And it was the players that were in China that had to answer for it.

    LeBron made it way worse with the bullshit about it affecting him financially, mentally, and emotionally tho. It was so disingenuous and the hypocrisy of him being all about BLM and not giving a fuck about China is so fucking irritating (Pete gif).
    I don't agree about Morey

    Fuck China 🇨🇳

    He exposed the hypocrisy. That's a good thing
    It did nothing. It was a huge financial mistake by him. There aren’t many businesses (no successful ones) where you can make that kind of financial mistake and it’s celebrated.
    I don't buy the "that wouldn't work in a normal business" argument. Morey, and all NBA players and personnel, should be able to speak out about whatever they want without fear of reprisal. Because that was the status quo long before Morey spoke out and it's long been part of their brand.

    But then the NBA showed that it's only willing to take a stand when there are no stakes. The height of cowardice.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,076



    Gladstone said:

    NBA to leave BLM, social justice messaging 'off the floor' next season, says Commissioner Adam Silver

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nba-commissioner-adam-silver-says-social-justice-messages-largely-left-delivered-off-floor-next-season

    "We're completely committed to standing for social justice and racial equality (except in China where we support injustice, racial inequality, genocide, concentration camps, oh and the categorical lack of freedom)"

    - Adam Silver
    I don’t like the bowing to China, but I did get why players were upset with Morey. His comments did nothing to help. They weren’t going to change anything and they just pissed China off. And it was the players that were in China that had to answer for it.

    LeBron made it way worse with the bullshit about it affecting him financially, mentally, and emotionally tho. It was so disingenuous and the hypocrisy of him being all about BLM and not giving a fuck about China is so fucking irritating (Pete gif).
    I don't agree about Morey

    Fuck China 🇨🇳

    He exposed the hypocrisy. That's a good thing
    It did nothing. It was a huge financial mistake by him. There aren’t many businesses (no successful ones) where you can make that kind of financial mistake and it’s celebrated.
    I don't buy the "that wouldn't work in a normal business" argument. Morey, and all NBA players and personnel, should be able to speak out about whatever they want without fear of reprisal. Because that was the status quo long before Morey spoke out and it's long been part of their brand.

    But then the NBA showed that it's only willing to take a stand when there are no stakes. The height of cowardice.
    Sorry bruh - that ain't realistic. Theoretically you should be able to speak out about whatever you want.....but the market will spank your ass. Or the owner's wife has a different opinion and you're fucked. Or you work for a leftist elitist anti-racism bullshit believer. You want their $$$ in the form of a paycheck, get the fuck in with the company line.

    Morey was right in what he said. His overlords determined that China money was more important. Short term, the Chinese money ruled. Long term, the owners/NBA have fucked up hitching their wagon to BLM/Chinese bullshit.

    Long story short though - the owners/NBA also have the power to go full on USA! USA! USA! as the market appears to be dictating. Freedom of words have risk of consequences or rewards. That's capitalism at it's finest.