Why is Sark fucking changing the offense in year 4

puppylove_sugarsteel

Just watched Saban talk of his philosophy. A similar one Sark used to run at USC. Instead of coming to Washington with a plan, a disciplined running offense with play action and the TE.

Sark instead doesn't have a plan, doesn't know if he'll run or pass and uses the best TE in America as a slot receiver, with cutesy little 5-yard curls and bubble screens. David Shaw HAS a philosophy. One that made Washington great. Now we just Dink and dunk with little lobs and change-of-pace hand offs to Sankey (who does EVERYTHING on his own.)

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puppylove_sugarsteel

oops, I meant year 5. I Lambo just confused what year we are in. Its like one long 7-6 year. OK all you semantics police, who never bring anything to the table, feel free to ignore the content, instead make fun of my accidental typing error.

He saw how well it worked out for Romar last year.

Old news is so exciting!

Because Sark is a fucking fraud. That's the answer. He's just copying Chip Kelly.

The guy isn't innovative at all. Seriously, there is nothing in his offense that is unique. The thing I hear over and over again about Sark's offense is that he runs a lot of the same plays out of multiple formations and uses shifts, motions, and other bullshit to trick defenses into coverages that he wants to run those plays against. I could name plenty of D3 teams that do that shit. Hell, decent high school coaches do that.

Guys like Bill Walsh, Don James, Chip Kelly - those guys off the top of my head - are innovators. Guys like Sark are fucking copycats and are a dime a fucking dozen.

oops, I meant year 5. I Lambo just confused what year we are in. Its like one long 7-6 year. OK all you semantics police, who never bring anything to the table, feel free to ignore the content, instead make fun of my accidental typing error.

You do know there is an edit function don't you? That's what I thought.

OK all you semantics police, who never bring anything to the table, feel free to ignore the content, instead make fun of my accidental typing error.

Seriously, what would Sark say if he had to talk about his coaching philosophy?

He seems like a pretty nice guy but he's not going to take the program to the next level. He's a people-pleaser who wants to be liked by everyone. That's not usually a concern of strong, innovative leaders. He just doesn't have that leadership "it" factor.

Because Sark is a fucking fraud. That's the answer. He's just copying Chip Kelly.

The guy isn't innovative at all. Seriously, there is nothing in his offense that is unique. The thing I hear over and over again about Sark's offense is that he runs a lot of the same plays out of multiple formations and uses shifts, motions, and other bullshit to trick defenses into coverages that he wants to run those plays against. I could name plenty of D3 teams that do that shit. Hell, decent high school coaches do that.

Guys like Bill Walsh, Don James, Chip Kelly - those guys off the top of my head - are innovators. Guys like Sark are fucking copycats and are a dime a fucking dozen.

Not that I disagree with your post, but he doesn't even need to be an innovator to be a good coach. He needs a philosophy and a clear message that the players understand. It will never happen though.

Because Sark is a fucking fraud. That's the answer. He's just copying Chip Kelly.

The guy isn't innovative at all. Seriously, there is nothing in his offense that is unique. The thing I hear over and over again about Sark's offense is that he runs a lot of the same plays out of multiple formations and uses shifts, motions, and other bullshit to trick defenses into coverages that he wants to run those plays against. I could name plenty of D3 teams that do that shit. Hell, decent high school coaches do that.

Guys like Bill Walsh, Don James, Chip Kelly - those guys off the top of my head - are innovators. Guys like Sark are fucking copycats and are a dime a fucking dozen.
Not that I disagree with your post, but he doesn't even need to be an innovator to be a good coach. He needs a philosophy and a clear message that the players understand. It will never happen though.

True. There are ton of coaches who copycat schemes out there that win championships.

But the topic is why Sark is changing the offense in year 5. I'll even submit to you that he's NOT changing the offense. He's only changing the pace at which it's run. And there's even good reasons for it. The opposing defense can't get set, can't substitute as much as they want, they run more base fronts and basic coverages. This enables a hurry up offense to run more basic plays (that even dumber-than-a-rock QBs can audible into), offensive linemen don't have to be as dominating, and gaps in defenses start to get wider.

The shit isn't rocket surgery. If you've been to a coaching clinic the last couple of years, this is what's talked about and it's all the rage. And Chip Kelly is the guy who innovated and perfected it. Sark is just copying what his butt buddy Chip built. Sark tried to copy Pete's fucking "Always Compete" mantra, now he's copying Chip. Wake me when he comes up with an original idea.

Don James had lambright copy the 46 attack defense from Buddy Ryan.

HTH

With our new hurry up offense, it's too bad we didn't keep Holt around as our DC. Would've been fun to see the numbers that Oregon could've put up on us this year with us hurrying to give the ball to them.

Don James had lambright copy the 46 attack defense from Buddy Ryan.

HTH

Good poont.

Did he just refer to himself as Lambo?

I'm hopeful that the new offense will work, and I have a suspicion that our first quarter against BSU will be electrifying.

But here's my concern: Remember back in the Neuheisel days, when he got all cutesy with trying to do late substitutions to get the best matchups defensively with the opposing offense? How many times did the opponent snap the ball before we were set? The players I interviewed in subsequent years told me how much they hated it. That's my concern for the offense under Sark. That as the season wears on it'll be a cutesy clusterfuck and announcers will be deriding it during a national telecast at some point.

I'm hopeful that the new offense will work, and I have a suspicion that our first quarter against BSU will be electrifying.

But here's my concern: Remember back in the Neuheisel days, when he got all cutesy with trying to do late substitutions to get the best matchups defensively with the opposing offense? How many times did the opponent snap the ball before we were set? The players I interviewed in subsequent years told me how much they hated it. That's my concern for the offense under Sark. That as the season wears on it'll be a cutesy clusterfuck and announcers will be deriding it during a national telecast at some point.

How is that different from the last four years? I feel like everything Sark does is a cutesy clusterfuck.

In fact that could be the name for your next book. "Husky football in the Steve Sarkisian era: A cutesy clusterfuck".

The guy is so far in over his head. He has no identity as a coach or as an offensive play caller. When he gets fired by UW(in 2017) I wouldn't even want him as an OC or QB coach.

I'm hopeful that the new offense will work, and I have a suspicion that our first quarter against BSU will be electrifying.

But here's my concern: Remember back in the Neuheisel days, when he got all cutesy with trying to do late substitutions to get the best matchups defensively with the opposing offense? How many times did the opponent snap the ball before we were set? The players I interviewed in subsequent years told me how much they hated it. That's my concern for the offense under Sark. That as the season wears on it'll be a cutesy clusterfuck and announcers will be deriding it during a national telecast at some point.

What I think is likely to happen is that eventually our offense won't be able to make enough first downs to justify running the no-huddle hurry up bullshit and we'll be burning less than 30 seconds off the game clock while we're on offense and our defense will be fucking gassed.

Its just like basketball. If you have the better talent, you'll want to speed the game up to give yourself more possessions, more opportunities to score. If you don't, you're going to want to slow down the pace, take the air out of the ball, and hope you're more efficient than the more talented team.

Who knows if Sark gets this. I'm guessing he doesn't and Arizona, ASU, UCLA, and Oregon will sideways plunger fuck us into tears because their time of possession will be 40 minutes to our 20, our special teams will suck balls again, and their score will start with a 5 and ours will start with a 1....rather easily, say 56-13?

Not sure why we want to get in a track meet with the likes of Oregon, Arizona and UCLA. Heck, we can't even keep up with WSU in the 4th qtr.

Not sure why we want to get in a track meet with the likes of Oregon, Arizona and UCLA. Heck, we can't even keep up with WSU in the 4th qtr.

Our head coach is in over his head that's why. He has no clue how to game plan week to week, make adjustments, coach up his kids, or see the flow of the fucking game.

Not sure why we want to get in a track meet with the likes of Oregon, Arizona and UCLA. Heck, we can't even keep up with WSU in the 4th qtr.

Exactly. No one should want to get in a track meet with those guys. You might not have wanted to get raped, but you're walking downtown with nothing but a sports bra, fishnets, and fuck me pumps. I mean, you're going to get pounded in the ass.

The only way to beat teams like that is get them in a phone booth and slug it out. Is there a team in the conference that can do that? Oh yeah...Stanford, the Rose Bowl champs.

Not sure why we want to get in a track meet with the likes of Oregon, Arizona and UCLA. Heck, we can't even keep up with WSU in the 4th qtr.
Exactly. No one should want to get in a track meet with those guys. You might not have wanted to get raped, but you're walking downtown with nothing but a sports bra, fishnets, and fuck me pumps. I mean, you're going to get pounded in the ass.

The only way to beat teams like that is get them in a phone booth and slug it out. Is there a team in the conference that can do that? Oh yeah...Stanford, the Rose Bowl champs.

And we have come full circle to my original point in the other thread. For all the bitching about Sark, his #1 failure is to recruit TOP level talent on both lines.

People get fooled by the smoke and mirrors of Oregon, but the majority of their success comes from the quality of their beef in the trenches.

And as long as we have a certain position coach, top kids are not going to play here.

And as long as we have a certain headcoach, top kids are not going to play here.

Fixed

And as long as we have a certain negative posters, top kids are not going to play here.

DM.c'd that for you

And as long as we have a certain negative posters, top kids are not going to play here.
DM.c'd that for you

Idiots on the free board absolutely KILLED Sark's recruiting from '09-'11. Brutal. He never had a chance.

I'm hopeful that the new offense will work, and I have a suspicion that our first quarter against BSU will be electrifying.

But here's my concern: Remember back in the Neuheisel days, when he got all cutesy with trying to do late substitutions to get the best matchups defensively with the opposing offense? How many times did the opponent snap the ball before we were set? The players I interviewed in subsequent years told me how much they hated it. That's my concern for the offense under Sark. That as the season wears on it'll be a cutesy clusterfuck and announcers will be deriding it during a national telecast at some point.

My concern is the lack of attention to detail across the board and an inability to adjust. Someone brought up how the Huskies looked in an old game they were watching. Very good in all three phases of the game. This is a trait of successful coaches. Guys like Harbaugh, Shaw, Saban, Bowden, Hayes, Schembechler, James, McKay, Carroll, Donahue, Mora (on his way) ..... etc., weren't/aren't particularly innovative. These guys cover their bases and practice/train in ways that develop their recruits into NFL caliber players. They have their teams ready to go come game time and have the ability to adjust as necessary. It's a shame that we don't have one of those types running the program right now.

The change to a "hurry up" (not necessarily zone read spread option) offense at this point tells me Sark is feeling some heat and grabbing for straws. I hope it works, but if it doesn't and he doesn't adjust, this will be a very long season.

And as long as we have a certain negative posters, top kids are not going to play here.
DM.c'd that for you
Idiots on the free board absolutely KILLED Sark's recruiting from '09-'11. Brutal. He never had a chance.

WTFITFB?

TierbsHsotBoobs

Did he just refer to himself as Lambo?

Is it wrong that I actually enjoyed the thought of Lambo as a Quad?

Did he just refer to himself as Lambo?

Is it wrong that I actually enjoyed the thought of Lambo as a Quad?

Your screenname/avatar is an homage to Gilby's manboobs. You are known as a lover of lemons. Pretty sure you moved past caring "is it wrong that I enjoyed the thought of ______________" a long time ago.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Did he just refer to himself as Lambo?

Is it wrong that I actually enjoyed the thought of Lambo as a Quad?
Your screenname/avatar is an homage to Gilby's manboobs. You are known as a lover of lemons. Pretty sure you moved past caring "is it wrong that I enjoyed the thought of ______________" a long time ago.

Only the avatar is an homage to Gilby.

The screenname is an homage to the greatest drunk Facebook post I've ever seen.

Did he just refer to himself as Lambo?

Is it wrong that I actually enjoyed the thought of Lambo as a Quad?
Your screenname/avatar is an homage to Gilby's manboobs. You are known as a lover of lemons. Pretty sure you moved past caring "is it wrong that I enjoyed the thought of ______________" a long time ago.

Only the avatar is an homage to Gilby.

The screenname is an homage to the greatest drunk Facebook post I've ever seen.

Damn those Yelm cops.

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puppylove_sugarsteel

oops, I meant year 5. I Lambo just confused what year we are in. Its like one long 7-6 year. OK all you semantics police, who never bring anything to the table, feel free to ignore the content, instead make fun of my accidental typing error.

He saw how well it worked out for Romar last year.

Old news is so exciting!

Because Sark is a fucking fraud. That's the answer. He's just copying Chip Kelly.

The guy isn't innovative at all. Seriously, there is nothing in his offense that is unique. The thing I hear over and over again about Sark's offense is that he runs a lot of the same plays out of multiple formations and uses shifts, motions, and other bullshit to trick defenses into coverages that he wants to run those plays against. I could name plenty of D3 teams that do that shit. Hell, decent high school coaches do that.

Guys like Bill Walsh, Don James, Chip Kelly - those guys off the top of my head - are innovators. Guys like Sark are fucking copycats and are a dime a fucking dozen.

oops, I meant year 5. I Lambo just confused what year we are in. Its like one long 7-6 year. OK all you semantics police, who never bring anything to the table, feel free to ignore the content, instead make fun of my accidental typing error.

You do know there is an edit function don't you? That's what I thought.

OK all you semantics police, who never bring anything to the table, feel free to ignore the content, instead make fun of my accidental typing error.

Seriously, what would Sark say if he had to talk about his coaching philosophy?

He seems like a pretty nice guy but he's not going to take the program to the next level. He's a people-pleaser who wants to be liked by everyone. That's not usually a concern of strong, innovative leaders. He just doesn't have that leadership "it" factor.

Because Sark is a fucking fraud. That's the answer. He's just copying Chip Kelly.

The guy isn't innovative at all. Seriously, there is nothing in his offense that is unique. The thing I hear over and over again about Sark's offense is that he runs a lot of the same plays out of multiple formations and uses shifts, motions, and other bullshit to trick defenses into coverages that he wants to run those plays against. I could name plenty of D3 teams that do that shit. Hell, decent high school coaches do that.

Guys like Bill Walsh, Don James, Chip Kelly - those guys off the top of my head - are innovators. Guys like Sark are fucking copycats and are a dime a fucking dozen.

Not that I disagree with your post, but he doesn't even need to be an innovator to be a good coach. He needs a philosophy and a clear message that the players understand. It will never happen though.

Because Sark is a fucking fraud. That's the answer. He's just copying Chip Kelly.

The guy isn't innovative at all. Seriously, there is nothing in his offense that is unique. The thing I hear over and over again about Sark's offense is that he runs a lot of the same plays out of multiple formations and uses shifts, motions, and other bullshit to trick defenses into coverages that he wants to run those plays against. I could name plenty of D3 teams that do that shit. Hell, decent high school coaches do that.

Guys like Bill Walsh, Don James, Chip Kelly - those guys off the top of my head - are innovators. Guys like Sark are fucking copycats and are a dime a fucking dozen.
Not that I disagree with your post, but he doesn't even need to be an innovator to be a good coach. He needs a philosophy and a clear message that the players understand. It will never happen though.

True. There are ton of coaches who copycat schemes out there that win championships.

But the topic is why Sark is changing the offense in year 5. I'll even submit to you that he's NOT changing the offense. He's only changing the pace at which it's run. And there's even good reasons for it. The opposing defense can't get set, can't substitute as much as they want, they run more base fronts and basic coverages. This enables a hurry up offense to run more basic plays (that even dumber-than-a-rock QBs can audible into), offensive linemen don't have to be as dominating, and gaps in defenses start to get wider.

The shit isn't rocket surgery. If you've been to a coaching clinic the last couple of years, this is what's talked about and it's all the rage. And Chip Kelly is the guy who innovated and perfected it. Sark is just copying what his butt buddy Chip built. Sark tried to copy Pete's fucking "Always Compete" mantra, now he's copying Chip. Wake me when he comes up with an original idea.

Don James had lambright copy the 46 attack defense from Buddy Ryan.

HTH

With our new hurry up offense, it's too bad we didn't keep Holt around as our DC. Would've been fun to see the numbers that Oregon could've put up on us this year with us hurrying to give the ball to them.

Don James had lambright copy the 46 attack defense from Buddy Ryan.

HTH

Good poont.

Did he just refer to himself as Lambo?

I'm hopeful that the new offense will work, and I have a suspicion that our first quarter against BSU will be electrifying.

But here's my concern: Remember back in the Neuheisel days, when he got all cutesy with trying to do late substitutions to get the best matchups defensively with the opposing offense? How many times did the opponent snap the ball before we were set? The players I interviewed in subsequent years told me how much they hated it. That's my concern for the offense under Sark. That as the season wears on it'll be a cutesy clusterfuck and announcers will be deriding it during a national telecast at some point.

I'm hopeful that the new offense will work, and I have a suspicion that our first quarter against BSU will be electrifying.

But here's my concern: Remember back in the Neuheisel days, when he got all cutesy with trying to do late substitutions to get the best matchups defensively with the opposing offense? How many times did the opponent snap the ball before we were set? The players I interviewed in subsequent years told me how much they hated it. That's my concern for the offense under Sark. That as the season wears on it'll be a cutesy clusterfuck and announcers will be deriding it during a national telecast at some point.

How is that different from the last four years? I feel like everything Sark does is a cutesy clusterfuck.

In fact that could be the name for your next book. "Husky football in the Steve Sarkisian era: A cutesy clusterfuck".

The guy is so far in over his head. He has no identity as a coach or as an offensive play caller. When he gets fired by UW(in 2017) I wouldn't even want him as an OC or QB coach.

I'm hopeful that the new offense will work, and I have a suspicion that our first quarter against BSU will be electrifying.

But here's my concern: Remember back in the Neuheisel days, when he got all cutesy with trying to do late substitutions to get the best matchups defensively with the opposing offense? How many times did the opponent snap the ball before we were set? The players I interviewed in subsequent years told me how much they hated it. That's my concern for the offense under Sark. That as the season wears on it'll be a cutesy clusterfuck and announcers will be deriding it during a national telecast at some point.

What I think is likely to happen is that eventually our offense won't be able to make enough first downs to justify running the no-huddle hurry up bullshit and we'll be burning less than 30 seconds off the game clock while we're on offense and our defense will be fucking gassed.

Its just like basketball. If you have the better talent, you'll want to speed the game up to give yourself more possessions, more opportunities to score. If you don't, you're going to want to slow down the pace, take the air out of the ball, and hope you're more efficient than the more talented team.

Who knows if Sark gets this. I'm guessing he doesn't and Arizona, ASU, UCLA, and Oregon will sideways plunger fuck us into tears because their time of possession will be 40 minutes to our 20, our special teams will suck balls again, and their score will start with a 5 and ours will start with a 1....rather easily, say 56-13?

Not sure why we want to get in a track meet with the likes of Oregon, Arizona and UCLA. Heck, we can't even keep up with WSU in the 4th qtr.

Not sure why we want to get in a track meet with the likes of Oregon, Arizona and UCLA. Heck, we can't even keep up with WSU in the 4th qtr.

Our head coach is in over his head that's why. He has no clue how to game plan week to week, make adjustments, coach up his kids, or see the flow of the fucking game.

Not sure why we want to get in a track meet with the likes of Oregon, Arizona and UCLA. Heck, we can't even keep up with WSU in the 4th qtr.

Exactly. No one should want to get in a track meet with those guys. You might not have wanted to get raped, but you're walking downtown with nothing but a sports bra, fishnets, and fuck me pumps. I mean, you're going to get pounded in the ass.

The only way to beat teams like that is get them in a phone booth and slug it out. Is there a team in the conference that can do that? Oh yeah...Stanford, the Rose Bowl champs.

Not sure why we want to get in a track meet with the likes of Oregon, Arizona and UCLA. Heck, we can't even keep up with WSU in the 4th qtr.
Exactly. No one should want to get in a track meet with those guys. You might not have wanted to get raped, but you're walking downtown with nothing but a sports bra, fishnets, and fuck me pumps. I mean, you're going to get pounded in the ass.

The only way to beat teams like that is get them in a phone booth and slug it out. Is there a team in the conference that can do that? Oh yeah...Stanford, the Rose Bowl champs.

And we have come full circle to my original point in the other thread. For all the bitching about Sark, his #1 failure is to recruit TOP level talent on both lines.

People get fooled by the smoke and mirrors of Oregon, but the majority of their success comes from the quality of their beef in the trenches.

And as long as we have a certain position coach, top kids are not going to play here.

And as long as we have a certain headcoach, top kids are not going to play here.

Fixed

And as long as we have a certain negative posters, top kids are not going to play here.

DM.c'd that for you

And as long as we have a certain negative posters, top kids are not going to play here.
DM.c'd that for you

Idiots on the free board absolutely KILLED Sark's recruiting from '09-'11. Brutal. He never had a chance.

I'm hopeful that the new offense will work, and I have a suspicion that our first quarter against BSU will be electrifying.

But here's my concern: Remember back in the Neuheisel days, when he got all cutesy with trying to do late substitutions to get the best matchups defensively with the opposing offense? How many times did the opponent snap the ball before we were set? The players I interviewed in subsequent years told me how much they hated it. That's my concern for the offense under Sark. That as the season wears on it'll be a cutesy clusterfuck and announcers will be deriding it during a national telecast at some point.

My concern is the lack of attention to detail across the board and an inability to adjust. Someone brought up how the Huskies looked in an old game they were watching. Very good in all three phases of the game. This is a trait of successful coaches. Guys like Harbaugh, Shaw, Saban, Bowden, Hayes, Schembechler, James, McKay, Carroll, Donahue, Mora (on his way) ..... etc., weren't/aren't particularly innovative. These guys cover their bases and practice/train in ways that develop their recruits into NFL caliber players. They have their teams ready to go come game time and have the ability to adjust as necessary. It's a shame that we don't have one of those types running the program right now.

The change to a "hurry up" (not necessarily zone read spread option) offense at this point tells me Sark is feeling some heat and grabbing for straws. I hope it works, but if it doesn't and he doesn't adjust, this will be a very long season.

And as long as we have a certain negative posters, top kids are not going to play here.
DM.c'd that for you
Idiots on the free board absolutely KILLED Sark's recruiting from '09-'11. Brutal. He never had a chance.

WTFITFB?

TierbsHsotBoobs

Did he just refer to himself as Lambo?

Is it wrong that I actually enjoyed the thought of Lambo as a Quad?

Did he just refer to himself as Lambo?

Is it wrong that I actually enjoyed the thought of Lambo as a Quad?

Your screenname/avatar is an homage to Gilby's manboobs. You are known as a lover of lemons. Pretty sure you moved past caring "is it wrong that I enjoyed the thought of ______________" a long time ago.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Did he just refer to himself as Lambo?

Is it wrong that I actually enjoyed the thought of Lambo as a Quad?
Your screenname/avatar is an homage to Gilby's manboobs. You are known as a lover of lemons. Pretty sure you moved past caring "is it wrong that I enjoyed the thought of ______________" a long time ago.

Only the avatar is an homage to Gilby.

The screenname is an homage to the greatest drunk Facebook post I've ever seen.

Did he just refer to himself as Lambo?

Is it wrong that I actually enjoyed the thought of Lambo as a Quad?
Your screenname/avatar is an homage to Gilby's manboobs. You are known as a lover of lemons. Pretty sure you moved past caring "is it wrong that I enjoyed the thought of ______________" a long time ago.

Only the avatar is an homage to Gilby.

The screenname is an homage to the greatest drunk Facebook post I've ever seen.

Damn those Yelm cops.

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