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States that have allowed the eviction bans to expire are still at lower than normal eviction rates. I have the data and talk to the experts every week.GreenRiverGatorz said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/09/01/business/eviction-moratorium-order.amp.htmlBleachedAnusDawg said:
Evictions are not actually picking up steam. No data supports that statement right now.GreenRiverGatorz said:
But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.RaceBannon said:Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand
Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMOGreenRiverGatorz said:
Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.greenblood said:
Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said:
We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
I intentionally chose that phrase because the bar for "picking up steam" is comically low considering there's been federal and municipal bans on evictions for much of the pandemic.
The article above details how that moratorium for renters of federally backed mortgaged properties expired at the end of July. There's an extension in place, but it's done on an application basis and is a relatively lukewarm measure.
The rest of the country's renters are at the mercy of their city or state. These renters in Texas are already getting the boot.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2020/08/25/texas-evictions-coronavirus/amp/
You'd be naive to think more aren't coming. -
The states that haven't are the issue. The numbers of mortgage holders with missed payments is higher than the 07 crashBleachedAnusDawg said:
States that have allowed the eviction bans to expire are still at lower than normal eviction rates. I have the data and talk to the experts every week.GreenRiverGatorz said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/09/01/business/eviction-moratorium-order.amp.htmlBleachedAnusDawg said:
Evictions are not actually picking up steam. No data supports that statement right now.GreenRiverGatorz said:
But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.RaceBannon said:Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand
Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMOGreenRiverGatorz said:
Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.greenblood said:
Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said:
We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
I intentionally chose that phrase because the bar for "picking up steam" is comically low considering there's been federal and municipal bans on evictions for much of the pandemic.
The article above details how that moratorium for renters of federally backed mortgaged properties expired at the end of July. There's an extension in place, but it's done on an application basis and is a relatively lukewarm measure.
The rest of the country's renters are at the mercy of their city or state. These renters in Texas are already getting the boot.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2020/08/25/texas-evictions-coronavirus/amp/
You'd be naive to think more aren't coming.
Non payment of rent multiplies the problem
In California that is -
Lower than most previous years? Of course. We've had a period of near-zero evictions since March. My entire point is that the honeymoon for delinquent renters that has largely been enjoyed through this pandemic is coming to an end.BleachedAnusDawg said:
States that have allowed the eviction bans to expire are still at lower than normal eviction rates. I have the data and talk to the experts every week.GreenRiverGatorz said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/09/01/business/eviction-moratorium-order.amp.htmlBleachedAnusDawg said:
Evictions are not actually picking up steam. No data supports that statement right now.GreenRiverGatorz said:
But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.RaceBannon said:Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand
Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMOGreenRiverGatorz said:
Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.greenblood said:
Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said:
We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
I intentionally chose that phrase because the bar for "picking up steam" is comically low considering there's been federal and municipal bans on evictions for much of the pandemic.
The article above details how that moratorium for renters of federally backed mortgaged properties expired at the end of July. There's an extension in place, but it's done on an application basis and is a relatively lukewarm measure.
The rest of the country's renters are at the mercy of their city or state. These renters in Texas are already getting the boot.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2020/08/25/texas-evictions-coronavirus/amp/
You'd be naive to think more aren't coming. -
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil. -
I get trying to forecast with a crystal ball. The data right now shows only 1% higher default rate on rents for 11 million surveyed units across the country. In theory, more people will be evicted without rent subsidies, but so far that has not been the case at all for any states where the eviction bans have been repealed. Eviction rates are still lower than historic data.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Lower than most previous years? Of course. We've had a period of near-zero evictions since March. My entire point is that the honeymoon for delinquent renters that has largely been enjoyed through this pandemic is coming to an end.BleachedAnusDawg said:
States that have allowed the eviction bans to expire are still at lower than normal eviction rates. I have the data and talk to the experts every week.GreenRiverGatorz said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/09/01/business/eviction-moratorium-order.amp.htmlBleachedAnusDawg said:
Evictions are not actually picking up steam. No data supports that statement right now.GreenRiverGatorz said:
But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.RaceBannon said:Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand
Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMOGreenRiverGatorz said:
Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.greenblood said:
Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said:
We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
I intentionally chose that phrase because the bar for "picking up steam" is comically low considering there's been federal and municipal bans on evictions for much of the pandemic.
The article above details how that moratorium for renters of federally backed mortgaged properties expired at the end of July. There's an extension in place, but it's done on an application basis and is a relatively lukewarm measure.
The rest of the country's renters are at the mercy of their city or state. These renters in Texas are already getting the boot.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2020/08/25/texas-evictions-coronavirus/amp/
You'd be naive to think more aren't coming.
I'm not talking about eviction rates where bans are still in place - obviously you have a 0% rate if there's a ban. I'm talking about places where bans have expired and people can now be evicted again. -
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil. -
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS. -
If you think this thing has killed 220k people you’re a moron.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS. -
Again, they are grouping people that died who happened to have Covid in that number. Someone that died of a heart that had Covid is being counted as a Covid death even when it can't be proven that Covid had any impact at all in it. So you are basically inflating an already inflated number. That's what makes you a lemming.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS.
The president did try and shut down the border at the beginning. Do we need to revisit the fight the left made when he tried initially? -
Daddy couldn't do his job because people made so difficult. Cry me a fucking river. Maybe he should have shared the views of the virus that he actually held. Truth is a novel concept for him. Of course, he might not have been believed because he's so prone to lie about anything. Having a liar for President holds risks--who knew?greenblood said:
Again, they are grouping people that died who happened to have Covid in that number. Someone that died of a heart that had Covid is being counted as a Covid death even when it can't be proven that Covid had any impact at all in it. So you are basically inflating an already inflated number. That's what makes you a lemming.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS.
The president did try and shut down the border at the beginning. Do we need to revisit the fight the left made when he tried initially?
And a few largely apochryphal stories of alleged overcounts don't alter the reality that excess deaths in 2020 well exceed 196,000.
And yes, people with heart conditions and diabetes and who are overweight are more likely to die because those comorbidities make Covid especially deadly. -
Remember when you learned what the word externality meant in that other thread?HHusky said:
Daddy couldn't do his job because people made so difficult. Cry me a fucking river. Maybe he should have shared the views of the virus that he actually held. Truth is a novel concept for him. Of course, he might not have been believed because he's so prone to lie about anything. Having a liar for President holds risks--who knew?greenblood said:
Again, they are grouping people that died who happened to have Covid in that number. Someone that died of a heart that had Covid is being counted as a Covid death even when it can't be proven that Covid had any impact at all in it. So you are basically inflating an already inflated number. That's what makes you a lemming.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS.
The president did try and shut down the border at the beginning. Do we need to revisit the fight the left made when he tried initially?
And a few largely apochryphal stories of alleged overcounts don't alter the reality that excess deaths in 2020 well exceed 196,000.
And yes, people with heart conditions and diabetes and who are overweight are more likely to die because those comorbidities make Covid especially deadly.
Now apply that to the panic, lockdowns, economic recession, unemployment, school closures, delayed diagnostics, stay at home orders, covid elderly camps, intentional misrepresentation of possible therapeutics, etc... In relation to the total excess death number...
You’re almost there
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The entire democrat party screamed Trump went to far. Called him nake etc now they are rewriting history. Same as it ever was for you lefty fucking losers! HTHHHusky said:
Daddy couldn't do his job because people made so difficult. Cry me a fucking river. Maybe he should have shared the views of the virus that he actually held. Truth is a novel concept for him. Of course, he might not have been believed because he's so prone to lie about anything. Having a liar for President holds risks--who knew?greenblood said:
Again, they are grouping people that died who happened to have Covid in that number. Someone that died of a heart that had Covid is being counted as a Covid death even when it can't be proven that Covid had any impact at all in it. So you are basically inflating an already inflated number. That's what makes you a lemming.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS.
The president did try and shut down the border at the beginning. Do we need to revisit the fight the left made when he tried initially?
And a few largely apochryphal stories of alleged overcounts don't alter the reality that excess deaths in 2020 well exceed 196,000.
And yes, people with heart conditions and diabetes and who are overweight are more likely to die because those comorbidities make Covid especially deadly. -
I knew what an externality was by 1977. You gals sure do believe your own bullshit.Houhusky said:
Remember when you learned what the word externality meant in that other thread?HHusky said:
Daddy couldn't do his job because people made so difficult. Cry me a fucking river. Maybe he should have shared the views of the virus that he actually held. Truth is a novel concept for him. Of course, he might not have been believed because he's so prone to lie about anything. Having a liar for President holds risks--who knew?greenblood said:
Again, they are grouping people that died who happened to have Covid in that number. Someone that died of a heart that had Covid is being counted as a Covid death even when it can't be proven that Covid had any impact at all in it. So you are basically inflating an already inflated number. That's what makes you a lemming.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS.
The president did try and shut down the border at the beginning. Do we need to revisit the fight the left made when he tried initially?
And a few largely apochryphal stories of alleged overcounts don't alter the reality that excess deaths in 2020 well exceed 196,000.
And yes, people with heart conditions and diabetes and who are overweight are more likely to die because those comorbidities make Covid especially deadly.
Now apply that to the panic, lockdowns, economic recession, unemployment, school closures, delayed diagnostics, stay at home orders, covid elderly camps, intentional misrepresentation of possible therapeutics, etc... In relation to the total excess death number...
You’re almost there -
I'm hearing that H knew that term and how to apply it all the way back in undergrad!Houhusky said:
Remember when you learned what the word externality meant in that other thread?HHusky said:
Daddy couldn't do his job because people made so difficult. Cry me a fucking river. Maybe he should have shared the views of the virus that he actually held. Truth is a novel concept for him. Of course, he might not have been believed because he's so prone to lie about anything. Having a liar for President holds risks--who knew?greenblood said:
Again, they are grouping people that died who happened to have Covid in that number. Someone that died of a heart that had Covid is being counted as a Covid death even when it can't be proven that Covid had any impact at all in it. So you are basically inflating an already inflated number. That's what makes you a lemming.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS.
The president did try and shut down the border at the beginning. Do we need to revisit the fight the left made when he tried initially?
And a few largely apochryphal stories of alleged overcounts don't alter the reality that excess deaths in 2020 well exceed 196,000.
And yes, people with heart conditions and diabetes and who are overweight are more likely to die because those comorbidities make Covid especially deadly.
Now apply that to the panic, lockdowns, economic recession, unemployment, school closures, delayed diagnostics, stay at home orders, covid elderly camps, intentional misrepresentation of possible therapeutics, etc... In relation to the total excess death number...
You’re almost there -
Let's say it's 50k . We shit our pants, crapped on the Constitution and changed everything about the way we traveled and did business after 3000 Americans were killed by terrorists 19 years ago tomorrow. Is 50k something to just disregard and sweep under the carpet now? We're still having 1000 people a day die. 3 fucking airliners worth a day. If 3 planes were crashing a day, how long would people makes excuses for it, and make it sound like no big deal? I'm guessing 2 days before people started raising hell and heads started to roll. If your parents were on one of the planes, you'd be one of them., regardless how fucking old they were.thechatch said:
If you think this thing has killed 220k people you’re a moron.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS. -
It’s a tough job. We should have hired a woman who was man enough to do it.Sledog said:
The entire democrat party screamed Trump went to far. Called him nake etc now they are rewriting history. Same as it ever was for you lefty fucking losers! HTHHHusky said:
Daddy couldn't do his job because people made so difficult. Cry me a fucking river. Maybe he should have shared the views of the virus that he actually held. Truth is a novel concept for him. Of course, he might not have been believed because he's so prone to lie about anything. Having a liar for President holds risks--who knew?greenblood said:
Again, they are grouping people that died who happened to have Covid in that number. Someone that died of a heart that had Covid is being counted as a Covid death even when it can't be proven that Covid had any impact at all in it. So you are basically inflating an already inflated number. That's what makes you a lemming.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS.
The president did try and shut down the border at the beginning. Do we need to revisit the fight the left made when he tried initially?
And a few largely apochryphal stories of alleged overcounts don't alter the reality that excess deaths in 2020 well exceed 196,000.
And yes, people with heart conditions and diabetes and who are overweight are more likely to die because those comorbidities make Covid especially deadly. -
So you were for closing up the order after you were against it? Cool, got it champ! Have you always been an insufferable hypocrite, or is this something new you’re trying out?HHusky said:
Daddy couldn't do his job because people made so difficult. Cry me a fucking river. Maybe he should have shared the views of the virus that he actually held. Truth is a novel concept for him. Of course, he might not have been believed because he's so prone to lie about anything. Having a liar for President holds risks--who knew?greenblood said:
Again, they are grouping people that died who happened to have Covid in that number. Someone that died of a heart that had Covid is being counted as a Covid death even when it can't be proven that Covid had any impact at all in it. So you are basically inflating an already inflated number. That's what makes you a lemming.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS.
The president did try and shut down the border at the beginning. Do we need to revisit the fight the left made when he tried initially?
And a few largely apochryphal stories of alleged overcounts don't alter the reality that excess deaths in 2020 well exceed 196,000.
And yes, people with heart conditions and diabetes and who are overweight are more likely to die because those comorbidities make Covid especially deadly.
And yes your team’s maff is skewed like all the other bullshit numbers you throw out there. Leave this for the big boys, this is outside your comprehension. -
I like to compare hypothetical plane crashes to virus deaths, that's what I like to do......derp derpdflea said:
Let's say it's 50k . We shit our pants, crapped on the Constitution and changed everything about the way we traveled and did business after 3000 Americans were killed by terrorists 19 years ago tomorrow. Is 50k something to just disregard and sweep under the carpet now? We're still having 1000 people a day die. 3 fucking airliners worth a day. If 3 planes were crashing a day, how long would people makes excuses for it, and make it sound like no big deal? I'm guessing 2 days before people started raising hell and heads started to roll. If your parents were on one of the planes, you'd be one of them., regardless how fucking old they were.thechatch said:
If you think this thing has killed 220k people you’re a moron.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS. -
What the fuck are you talking about?dflea said:
Let's say it's 50k . We shit our pants, crapped on the Constitution and changed everything about the way we traveled and did business after 3000 Americans were killed by terrorists 19 years ago tomorrow. Is 50k something to just disregard and sweep under the carpet now? We're still having 1000 people a day die. 3 fucking airliners worth a day. If 3 planes were crashing a day, how long would people makes excuses for it, and make it sound like no big deal? I'm guessing 2 days before people started raising hell and heads started to roll. If your parents were on one of the planes, you'd be one of them., regardless how fucking old they were.thechatch said:
If you think this thing has killed 220k people you’re a moron.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS. -
NorthwestFresh said:
What the fuck are you talking about?dflea said:
Let's say it's 50k . We shit our pants, crapped on the Constitution and changed everything about the way we traveled and did business after 3000 Americans were killed by terrorists 19 years ago tomorrow. Is 50k something to just disregard and sweep under the carpet now? We're still having 1000 people a day die. 3 fucking airliners worth a day. If 3 planes were crashing a day, how long would people makes excuses for it, and make it sound like no big deal? I'm guessing 2 days before people started raising hell and heads started to roll. If your parents were on one of the planes, you'd be one of them., regardless how fucking old they were.thechatch said:
If you think this thing has killed 220k people you’re a moron.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS.
Flea getting soft like Boobs -
I was against the Patriot act then and still am now. Fuck off with this stupid shit.dflea said:
Let's say it's 50k . We shit our pants, crapped on the Constitution and changed everything about the way we traveled and did business after 3000 Americans were killed by terrorists 19 years ago tomorrow. Is 50k something to just disregard and sweep under the carpet now? We're still having 1000 people a day die. 3 fucking airliners worth a day. If 3 planes were crashing a day, how long would people makes excuses for it, and make it sound like no big deal? I'm guessing 2 days before people started raising hell and heads started to roll. If your parents were on one of the planes, you'd be one of them., regardless how fucking old they were.thechatch said:
If you think this thing has killed 220k people you’re a moron.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS. -
There's really no 'if' involved. That just supplements the obvious.thechatch said:
If you think this thing has killed 220k people you’re a moron.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS.
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Daddy isn’t always wrong and I’m not Chuck Schumer. You got a link to me criticizing the decision to stop entries from China?greenblood said:
So you were for closing up the order after you were against it? Cool, got it champ! Have you always been an insufferable hypocrite, or is this something new you’re trying out?HHusky said:
Daddy couldn't do his job because people made so difficult. Cry me a fucking river. Maybe he should have shared the views of the virus that he actually held. Truth is a novel concept for him. Of course, he might not have been believed because he's so prone to lie about anything. Having a liar for President holds risks--who knew?greenblood said:
Again, they are grouping people that died who happened to have Covid in that number. Someone that died of a heart that had Covid is being counted as a Covid death even when it can't be proven that Covid had any impact at all in it. So you are basically inflating an already inflated number. That's what makes you a lemming.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS.
The president did try and shut down the border at the beginning. Do we need to revisit the fight the left made when he tried initially?
And a few largely apochryphal stories of alleged overcounts don't alter the reality that excess deaths in 2020 well exceed 196,000.
And yes, people with heart conditions and diabetes and who are overweight are more likely to die because those comorbidities make Covid especially deadly.
And yes your team’s maff is skewed like all the other bullshit numbers you throw out there. Leave this for the big boys, this is outside your comprehension. -
Yes, but Dan Crenshaw will refuse to play for them and force a trade to the republicans.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said: -
Using your logic, people should have been shitting their pants every flu season. Thanks to the left, Depends will be in high demand forever now.dflea said:
Let's say it's 50k . We shit our pants, crapped on the Constitution and changed everything about the way we traveled and did business after 3000 Americans were killed by terrorists 19 years ago tomorrow. Is 50k something to just disregard and sweep under the carpet now? We're still having 1000 people a day die. 3 fucking airliners worth a day. If 3 planes were crashing a day, how long would people makes excuses for it, and make it sound like no big deal? I'm guessing 2 days before people started raising hell and heads started to roll. If your parents were on one of the planes, you'd be one of them., regardless how fucking old they were.thechatch said:
If you think this thing has killed 220k people you’re a moron.HHusky said:
I think of it as having killed 196,000 Americans officially, and probably closer to 220,000 in reality. It will have officially killed about 400,000 Americans by the end of the year. Not unprecedented, but unprecedented in the lives of anyone posting here.greenblood said:
My argument is that you're retard if you think it's the common flu, and you're a retard if you think it's the second coming of the black plague. The virus is deadly but not even close as severe us the media and you like to say it is. There are people on here that think this whole thing is a joke. Both are wrong. I pointing out how you view of concern over this is influenced by skewed data and information. Shit should not be closed down, but we should be wearing masks. That's my argument.HHusky said:
Assume it's 60 million. How does that help your argument?greenblood said:
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
We should be wearing masks and we should have had a national response, not an abdication of responsibility by the POTUS.
