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How many lives would panic have saved?
Woodward obviously thought book sales were more important that getting the story out -
You certainly kept your head, and discerned what guidelines to ignore.
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Just doing my part.GrundleStiltzkin said:You certainly kept your head, and discerned what guidelines to ignore.
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Essential lol
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Did another 78 year old with stage 4 colon cancer and late stage dementia who happened to have Covid die again?
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
And the death totals are and have always been inflated, because any death of a Covid patient regardless if Covid is the primary cause or not is counted.
But continue to hide in your parent's basement champ. -
50,000
Maybe 75,000
Ugly flu bug. -
Our only two choices when faced with adversity are (1) panic or (2) pretend there isn't a problem.RaceBannon said:How many lives would panic have saved?
Woodward obviously thought book sales were more important that getting the story out
That's obvious. -
Actually the death count is probably under counted right now. Excess deaths in the US from March-July was 200k over the average year.greenblood said:Did another 78 year old with stage 4 colon cancer and late stage dementia who happened to have Covid die again?
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
And the death totals are and have always been inflated, because any death of a Covid patient regardless if Covid is the primary cause or not is counted.
But continue to hide in your parent's basement champ.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/12/us/covid-deaths-us.html
Across the United States, at least 200,000 more people have died than usual since March, according to a New York Times analysis of estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This is about 60,000 higher than the number of deaths that have been directly linked to the coronavirus. -
Or hold the book until election timeHHusky said:
Our only two choices when faced with adversity are (1) panic or (2) pretend there isn't a problem.RaceBannon said:How many lives would panic have saved?
Woodward obviously thought book sales were more important that getting the story out
That's obvious.
It was that big of a story -
I'm sorry but why would anyone believe any of this at this point?insinceredawg said:
Actually the death count is probably under counted right now. Excess deaths in the US from March-July was 200k over the average year.greenblood said:Did another 78 year old with stage 4 colon cancer and late stage dementia who happened to have Covid die again?
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
And the death totals are and have always been inflated, because any death of a Covid patient regardless if Covid is the primary cause or not is counted.
But continue to hide in your parent's basement champ.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/12/us/covid-deaths-us.html
Across the United States, at least 200,000 more people have died than usual since March, according to a New York Times analysis of estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This is about 60,000 higher than the number of deaths that have been directly linked to the coronavirus.
Authorities can only tell so many lies and spread so much propaganda before it all just falls on deaf ears -
Its that serious. Shut the country down then vote no on relief
Joe Biden's America
But by all means follow the rabbit down the hole -
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Good thing Trump signed that EO for the extra 300 bucks a week in UI
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200k over what number? I'm sure the rise has nothing to do with the increase in obesity, boomers getting older, cancer rates at all time highs, suicide rate increases, etc. But I guess since a lot of these deaths could be linked to issues involving isolation and unemployment, due the virus, they also count as Covid death.insinceredawg said:
Actually the death count is probably under counted right now. Excess deaths in the US from March-July was 200k over the average year.greenblood said:Did another 78 year old with stage 4 colon cancer and late stage dementia who happened to have Covid die again?
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
And the death totals are and have always been inflated, because any death of a Covid patient regardless if Covid is the primary cause or not is counted.
But continue to hide in your parent's basement champ.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/12/us/covid-deaths-us.html
Across the United States, at least 200,000 more people have died than usual since March, according to a New York Times analysis of estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This is about 60,000 higher than the number of deaths that have been directly linked to the coronavirus. -
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said: -
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Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said: -
Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.greenblood said:
Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said:
We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy. -
Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand
Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMOGreenRiverGatorz said:
Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.greenblood said:
Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said:
We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy. -
But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.RaceBannon said:Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand
Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMOGreenRiverGatorz said:
Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.greenblood said:
Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said:
We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy. -
Why would you assume the excess deaths are covid deaths? There is a real cost to panic and lockdown. Large increases in mortality from heart disease, diabetes, and other diseases were observed unrelated to Covid19 infection.insinceredawg said:
Actually the death count is probably under counted right now. Excess deaths in the US from March-July was 200k over the average year.greenblood said:Did another 78 year old with stage 4 colon cancer and late stage dementia who happened to have Covid die again?
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
And the death totals are and have always been inflated, because any death of a Covid patient regardless if Covid is the primary cause or not is counted.
But continue to hide in your parent's basement champ.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/12/us/covid-deaths-us.html
Across the United States, at least 200,000 more people have died than usual since March, according to a New York Times analysis of estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This is about 60,000 higher than the number of deaths that have been directly linked to the coronavirus.
For Example: Journal of the American Medical Association; https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768086
"Between March 1, 2020, and April 25, 2020, a total of 505 059 deaths were reported in the US; 87 001 were excess deaths, of which 56 246 (65%) were attributed to COVID-19. In 14 states, more than 50% of excess deaths were attributed to underlying causes other than COVID-19; these included California (55% of excess deaths) and Texas (64% of excess deaths). The 5 states with the most COVID-19 deaths experienced large proportional increases in deaths due to nonrespiratory underlying causes, including diabetes (96%), heart diseases (89%), Alzheimer disease (64%), and cerebrovascular diseases (35%) (Figure). New York City experienced the largest increases in nonrespiratory deaths, notably those due to heart disease (398%) and diabetes (356%)."
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I know they are. Warned about it in March. Probably could have used some panic on what we? did to the economy.GreenRiverGatorz said:
But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.RaceBannon said:Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand
Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMOGreenRiverGatorz said:
Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.greenblood said:
Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said:
We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
I get daily updates from my wife on the shit Newsom is pulling. Its all about the illegals while he was saying no to the 300 bucks. She hates him with the flames of a thousand burning suns.
Trump gets and will continue to get blame but when you have Queen Nancy and her ice cream while people's lives crumble there is room to spread it around -
Marx hated the petite bourgeois, aka the small business owner and working class. He hated them because they were mostly set reliant had some ambition to get to the top tier and were not easy to radicalize as a result. But their support and action was necessary for revolution. So what do you do? You kill their ability to be self sufficient with fast economic meltdown so they don’t have time to react to maintain status. Now you can radicalize them.GreenRiverGatorz said:
But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.RaceBannon said:Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand
Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMOGreenRiverGatorz said:
Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.greenblood said:
Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said:
We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy. -
In AZ, folks are mooching off the $300
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HHusky too stupid to see the long game. Kill off all the old, unhealthy people and Medicaire and Social Security might actually become solvent.
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Evictions are not actually picking up steam. No data supports that statement right now.GreenRiverGatorz said:
But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.RaceBannon said:Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand
Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMOGreenRiverGatorz said:
Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.greenblood said:
Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said:
We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy. -
Fuck off. I was advocating this back when you girls were against it.BleachedAnusDawg said:HHusky too stupid to see the long game. Kill off all the old, unhealthy people and Medicaire and Social Security might actually become solvent.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/09/01/business/eviction-moratorium-order.amp.htmlBleachedAnusDawg said:
Evictions are not actually picking up steam. No data supports that statement right now.GreenRiverGatorz said:
But no expanded small business relief and that UE backstop is only half of the first iteration. We've only had a little over a month with the stimulus spicket turned off. Things are going to get worse fast, especially with evictions picking up steam.RaceBannon said:Unemployment payments are a state thing and the governors originally said no to the 300 then said yes They heard from people who understand
Now the democrats are letting Trump EO the money to the people. I get the plan but seems risky IMOGreenRiverGatorz said:
Seems more calculated to me. Much fewer people will pay attention to the nuances of congressional negotiations than will feel the economic pain at the ballot box come November.greenblood said:
Democrats can't help but to shoot themselves over this thing.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Are democrats tanking for the lottery pick?RaceBannon said:
We're well past the point of actual governance and legislating paying off. Letting the majority party foot the bill for inaction has become the go-to strategy.
I intentionally chose that phrase because the bar for "picking up steam" is comically low considering there's been federal and municipal bans on evictions for much of the pandemic.
The article above details how that moratorium for renters of federally backed mortgaged properties expired at the end of July. There's an extension in place, but it's done on an application basis and is a relatively lukewarm measure.
The rest of the country's renters are at the mercy of their city or state. These renters in Texas are already getting the boot.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2020/08/25/texas-evictions-coronavirus/amp/
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This is a bad take even for you.insinceredawg said:
Actually the death count is probably under counted right now. Excess deaths in the US from March-July was 200k over the average year.greenblood said:Did another 78 year old with stage 4 colon cancer and late stage dementia who happened to have Covid die again?
6.5 million cases is a joke. I'd be shocked if the real number is under 30mil.
And the death totals are and have always been inflated, because any death of a Covid patient regardless if Covid is the primary cause or not is counted.
But continue to hide in your parent's basement champ.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/12/us/covid-deaths-us.html
Across the United States, at least 200,000 more people have died than usual since March, according to a New York Times analysis of estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This is about 60,000 higher than the number of deaths that have been directly linked to the coronavirus.
