A Tale of Two Conventions


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Well put. That is exactly the perspective I had. One uplifting and counting on people to take advantage of what the country has provided each of us and the other telling everyone they are a victim, that the country is horribly flawed and that big government has the answer to everything.
A 4 year politician/businessman who did his part to widen the possibilities for all Americans and truly believes in the greatness of this country and the other a very flawed and failed, lifetime 47 year establishment politician who is too afraid to come out of his basement and is not very proud of this country that has given him so much. 47 years and this is his perspective. Pretty sad.
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Says a lot more about how this guy thinks about Black* people than it does anything else. It’s like the Lincoln Project yesterday with the Tweet they deleted about hearing “monkey” instead of “Spygate” when Trump was talking about Obama and spying. Malcolm X was correct about white liberals. They still think they own Black* people and patronize the entire group based solely on skin color. They aren’t diverse according to Joe Biden, and that’s their top of ticket. The blatant racism is obvious yet white liberals love it.GrundleStiltzkin said: -
Pretty much.Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
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Probably why you're successful and love life. Compare you to posters like H, IC and Bears and you'll see the same contrast.Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
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Americans like winners.
Trump 34-17.
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I mean conservatives are generally cool and successful and leftists are the fat 38 year old women complaining that life is rigged and there aint no good men
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Or the hyper-insecure hollyweid types who will never be happy no matter who they're sleeping with or how much money they have.Pitchfork51 said:I mean conservatives are generally cool and successful and leftists are the fat 38 year old women complaining that life is rigged and there aint no good men
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Or how many children they molest.RoadTrip said:
Or the hyper-insecure hollyweid types who will never be happy no matter who they're sleeping with or how much money they have.Pitchfork51 said:I mean conservatives are generally cool and successful and leftists are the fat 38 year old women complaining that life is rigged and there aint no good men
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With all due respect....what else would it be?Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
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This.HuskyJW said:
With all due respect....what else would it be?Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President? -
HuskyJW said:
With all due respect....what else would it be?Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?
Only if you think you are currently living under a dictatorship and aren't free. But the lefts promising exactly that!MelloDawg said:
This.HuskyJW said:
With all due respect....what else would it be?Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
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You could present an alternative that is better than this veil of tears we live in nowHuskyJW said:
With all due respect....what else would it be?Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?
Instead we got 4 nights of America sucks
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That's a fair statement. To me, it's one thing to say "hey we got problems but Trump is the root of them," and it's another to imply "America is fundamentally unfair and broken and out to screw you." I think they say a bunch of both, or that is the feeling I got watching it. YMMV.HuskyJW said:
With all due respect....what else would it be?Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?
The first part I expect to hear, but the second part is one of the big reasons I am so turned off on modern Democrats. It feels like they think America is some shithole failure that needs to be blown up, as opposed to a a generally good but flawed country that with little tweaks can be made better. I feel liek the GOP messaging is "America kicks ass and with just a few tweaks we can really make this place perfect," whereas I feel like modern Dems think "fuck this place it's all fucked up let's blow it all up and start over." Again, my read may be colored because I HATE social justice and division politics, which the Dems have been peddling harder than ever the last 4 years. -
I can agree with this statementSwaye said:
That's a fair statement. To me, it's one thing to say "hey we got problems but Trump is the root of them," and it's another to imply "America is fundamentally unfair and broken and out to screw you." I think they say a bunch of both, or that is the feeling I got watching it. YMMV.HuskyJW said:
With all due respect....what else would it be?Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?
The first part I expect to hear, but the second part is one of the big reasons I am so turned off on modern Democrats. It feels like they think America is some shithole failure that needs to be blown up, as opposed to a a generally good but flawed country that with little tweaks can be made better. I feel liek the GOP messaging is "America kicks ass and with just a few tweaks we can really make this place perfect," whereas I feel like modern Dems think "fuck this place it's all fucked up let's blow it all up and start over." Again, my read may be colored because I HATE social justice and division politics, which the Dems have been peddling harder than ever the last 4 years.
The roles were reversed 8 years ago so if it’s your guy....the world is great. If it’s not...the world is awful and you are going to get screwed.
Cleaning out my mom’s garage last week....LDD and I found a newspaper from over 20 years ago. The two big editorials were why marijuana should be legal....and mail in voting. We had belly laughs over that one. -
Well put. That is exactly the perspective I had. One uplifting and cou
Did you watch the DNC Convention? The hate for Trump (in reality he represents everyone who doesn't think like rats, that's why they hate him so much). Even when they weren't blaming Trump for their woes and victimization they were constantly telling Americans that they were living in a hell hole. That there is a racist around every corner. Their entire convention was wrapped around dividing the races. That is not because of Trump, that is all the dem platform. You know why I know this? Its because it has been their platform for 3 decades.HuskyJW said:
With all due respect....what else would it be?Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President? -
You don’t need to namecall.....be betterBendintheriver said:Well put. That is exactly the perspective I had. One uplifting and cou
Did you watch the DNC Convention? The hate for Trump (in reality he represents everyone who doesn't think like rats, that's why they hate him so much). Even when they weren't blaming Trump for their woes and victimization they were constantly telling Americans that they were living in a hell hole. That there is a racist around every corner. Their entire convention was wrapped around dividing the races. That is not because of Trump, that is all the dem platform. You know why I know this? Its because it has been their platform for 3 decades.HuskyJW said:
With all due respect....what else would it be?Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President? -
The Democrats have been fighting for minorities for 50 years
Things have never been worse for minorities
The essential problem with political rhetoric -
RaceBannon said:
The Democrats have been fighting for
minoritiesminority votes via government dependence and racial division for 50 years
Things have never been worse for minorities
The essential problem with political rhetoric coupled with a wanton lust for evermore power and control -
The Messiah got elected simply on "Hope and Change".HuskyJW said:
With all due respect....what else would it be?Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?
Positive messaging sells. Americans like to compete and win.
But but MEAN ORANGE MAN!!!!!! RACISTS!!!!
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Reagan said how he was going to do better than Carter while pointing out what a shitty job Carter was doing
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Trump still is essentially a 90's Dem. He still appeals to the working class that the dems used to covet. I don't see the division he created within the Democratic party having healed since 2016. If anything the Dems doubled down and created an even further divide between their SJW/progs, working class, and global/coastal elite groups. But but but unity!
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I didn't watch any of the @dnc because they're a bunch of bullies, so if you're telling me it was all doom and gloom then I'll have to take your word for it.
But I did tune in last night. And outside of Scott and Haley, who were pretty well measured, I felt like I was watching the opening ceremonies of an insurrection. Guilfoyle in particular was batshit insane throughout her entire speech. -
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Guilfoyle, agreed she was bad but the rest of line up was pretty good. Old Cuban guy was good, H. Walker was good, Don Jr. wasn't bad. The black woman running for Congress from Baltimore was good.GreenRiverGatorz said:I didn't watch any of the @dnc because they're a bunch of bullies, so if you're telling me it was all doom and gloom then I'll have to take your word for it.
But I did tune in last night. And outside of Scott and Haley, who were pretty well measured, I felt like I was watching the opening ceremonies of an insurrection. Guilfoyle in particular was batshit insane throughout her entire speech. -
It may be a flaw of mine ... but I don’t understand people that are always thinking through the lenses of racism
I know that blatant racism and discrimination is out there in the world ...
But we are collectively doing a disservice in addressing the legitimate racism/discrimination out there by saying that anything doesn’t go your way is a form of racism or discrimination ... there will always be people that don’t like you or treat you unfairly ... you can either cry about it and allow it stop you or you can keep moving forward -
She has a nice rack - but I'd rather see #mykaleigh up there smoking weed and talking shit like Lane Kiffen.GreenRiverGatorz said:I didn't watch any of the @dnc because they're a bunch of bullies, so if you're telling me it was all doom and gloom then I'll have to take your word for it.
But I did tune in last night. And outside of Scott and Haley, who were pretty well measured, I felt like I was watching the opening ceremonies of an insurrection. Guilfoyle in particular was batshit insane throughout her entire speech.
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Blow it out your ass. We have rats running around the streets lighting apartments on fire with people in them, beating, murdering and looting and a dem convention that never bothered to condemn the violence. All they did was fuel the flames of racial division and you have a problem with me calling them rats? FFS, the dem convention was a race dividing ship made of shit. Trying to equate that violence and the rat support of it to one party not liking the others candidates is joke. The messages couldn't be more different and rats should not be rewarded for tearing the country apart.HuskyJW said:
You don’t need to namecall.....be betterBendintheriver said:Well put. That is exactly the perspective I had. One uplifting and cou
Did you watch the DNC Convention? The hate for Trump (in reality he represents everyone who doesn't think like rats, that's why they hate him so much). Even when they weren't blaming Trump for their woes and victimization they were constantly telling Americans that they were living in a hell hole. That there is a racist around every corner. Their entire convention was wrapped around dividing the races. That is not because of Trump, that is all the dem platform. You know why I know this? Its because it has been their platform for 3 decades.HuskyJW said:
With all due respect....what else would it be?Swaye said:I watched some of the DNC convention, and some of the RNC last night. Independent of your political philosophy, anyone else struck by the general tone differences? The GOP (last night anyway) seemed to be a message of opportunity. The DNC was full of grievance. One group says America is great and can be better. The other says America is deeply flawed and needs complete cleansing. The contrast is sharp and clear.
Why would the DNC say everything is great with a Republican as President?