RIP Civil War
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Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
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The issue was not that buying the slaves' freedom never occurred to anyone.SpoonieLuv said:Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
And "forcing incompatible cultures to coexist in the same region"? -
Yes, bring the former slaves to the north where there would have a been a far easier transition to normalcy given social milieu of the time.HHusky said:
The issue was not that buying the slaves' freedom never occurred to anyone.SpoonieLuv said:Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
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He whiffed on a dead Van Hagar joke. It was sad!.
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Uhhhhhh, no. Have you read any mid-19th Century US History?SpoonieLuv said:
Yes, bring the former slaves to the north where there would have a been a far easier transition to normalcy given social milieu of the time.HHusky said:
The issue was not that buying the slaves' freedom never occurred to anyone.SpoonieLuv said:Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
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Way more than nuanced. The vast majority of slaves were not stationed on the British isles. But in colonies. Also, African slaves are only a slice of Great Britain’s slave history.SpoonieLuv said:Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
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https://oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/exclusion_laws/#.XvZX6G5Fw0QSpoonieLuv said:
Yes, bring the former slaves to the north where there would have a been a far easier transition to normalcy given social milieu of the time.HHusky said:
The issue was not that buying the slaves' freedom never occurred to anyone.SpoonieLuv said:Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
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Apples and oranges.HHusky said:
https://oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/exclusion_laws/#.XvZX6G5Fw0QSpoonieLuv said:
Yes, bring the former slaves to the north where there would have a been a far easier transition to normalcy given social milieu of the time.HHusky said:
The issue was not that buying the slaves' freedom never occurred to anyone.SpoonieLuv said:Not a joke, did Great Britain not end slavery in a similar manner avoiding an obviously generationally divisive war? I’m certain there are nuances to the differences between the US situation and theirs however an all out war was probably the worst possible solution to the problem of slavery in North America.
And "forcing incompatible cultures to coexist in the same region"?
The comparative reference was the contemporaneous climate in the south. -
This is a great start, Hopefully UW examines is problematic iconography more too!
Purple should be eliminated as an acceptable representative color;
It was the color of European imperialistic Roman royalty (mostly White people) that participated in the subjugation and enslavement of millions of people around the modern world at the time. It promotes the ideology of the ruling class both as an ethno-centric state and classist rigid hierarchy so much so that even Queen Elizabeth the first (yet another white) outlawed anyone of her royal family from wearing purple during her rule.
This is enough of a problematic past, the color shouldnt be celebrated or cheered, it should be a reminder of the grim history of whites.
makes me sick
Dont even get me started on the European rape of native lands in the pursuit of gold. -
The unpopularity of my position is not lost on me yet it is not devoid of serious scholarship on the issue. It stems from the evaluation of using a ground war to solve societal differences which have sewn the seeds of the turmoil which exists at present. It's not unreasonable to question whether Lincoln's war was the correct action to eliminate the obviously odious institution of slavery and its strong foothold in the southern (albeit it plantation owners were a very small minority of the southern population - not excusing it but it is not factual the a substantial number of them were slave-owners regardless of whether it was a supported position) institutions. A war on such scale should have been the last resort for the elimination of state approved slavery and the fact that the majority of all other countries ended slavery without a bloody conflict on this scale should be the only proof necessary to make one skeptical.
