RIP Civil War
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Lincoln ran on no new slave states. Hondo would have told the south that no one was coming to take your slaves
The south didn't believe that. When they seceded Lincoln vowed to save the Union and the north thought they would win rather easily.
It was about slavery for the south. That was was not hugely popular in the north hence the draft riots
Eventually abolishing slavery was a military decision
The Reconstruction was where it was all lost -
#RaceWasThereRaceBannon said:Lincoln ran on no new slave states. Hondo would have told the south that no one was coming to take your slaves
The south didn't believe that. When they seceded Lincoln vowed to save the Union and the north thought they would win rather easily.
It was about slavery for the south. That was was not hugely popular in the north hence the draft riots
Eventually abolishing slavery was a military decision
The Reconstruction was where it was all lost -
We can understand that the Civil War is not going to have happened absent the issue of slavery, even if there were other Southern resentments.Houhusky said:Can’t we just all be friends and understand that wars, especially civil wars are complex and multi faceted events that are difficult to pinpoint to just one singular cause or event, evenmoreso when trying to take into account the specific motivations of the general masses within those battling groups?
How many wars, other than the Trojan war for some fine demigod snatch, can be boiled down to entire armies being motivated by one singular issue? -
I don't know how you could have sustained the political will to keep Reconstruction going. Face facts, the old Southern Rat party members were irredeemable racists and you were going to have to slaughter even more of them before they would agree with equality for the newly freed slaves. By 1876 even the Northern Republicans has lost the will to keep Reconstruction going. As is said over and over, Slavery is this country's original sin and we will continue to pay a price for it now that the Cultural and political Marxists have realized their ability to capitalize on racial animosity to achieve their political goals.RaceBannon said:Lincoln ran on no new slave states. Hondo would have told the south that no one was coming to take your slaves
The south didn't believe that. When they seceded Lincoln vowed to save the Union and the north thought they would win rather easily.
It was about slavery for the south. That was was not hugely popular in the north hence the draft riots
Eventually abolishing slavery was a military decision
The Reconstruction was where it was all lost
The goal that you and I grew up with of achieving a color blind society is fucking dead and the left has zero interest in ever achieving that goal, there are far too many benefits to them politically going in the other direction. -
False.HHusky said:
Half truth. Noble, "lost cause" myth.haie said:
It was because the South didn't feel they would have a voice in the union anymore. It wasn't fought over slavery.dnc said:It wasn't a war fought to perpetuate slavery, it was a war fought to free the fucking slaves. Which it did, incidentally.
The Civil War has a much better racial connotation than say, the name Oregon or Oregon State.
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The chief concern they had regarding not having a voice was the threat to the institution of slavery. Each state made a proclamation on their reasons for leaving. You can find those statement online. Why not believe them? -
Yeah this is revisionist bullshit. Read what the defectors said at the time of secession, not what they said to cast themselves as the victims years later. Read the declarations of secession. Read the cornerstone speech.haie said:
It was because the South didn't feel they would have a voice in the union anymore. It wasn't fought over slavery.dnc said:It wasn't a war fought to perpetuate slavery, it was a war fought to free the fucking slaves. Which it did, incidentally.
The Civil War has a much better racial connotation than say, the name Oregon or Oregon State.
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The Confederacy was entirely about slavery. -
Why do people get emotional over this? I hate the south. But the civil war wasn't over slavery.dnc said:
Yeah this is revisionist bullshit. Read what the defectors said at the time of secession, not what they said to cast themselves as the victims years later. Read the declarations of secession. Read the cornerstone speech.haie said:
It was because the South didn't feel they would have a voice in the union anymore. It wasn't fought over slavery.dnc said:It wasn't a war fought to perpetuate slavery, it was a war fought to free the fucking slaves. Which it did, incidentally.
The Civil War has a much better racial connotation than say, the name Oregon or Oregon State.
SoFuckingIrritating.gif
The Confederacy was entirely about slavery. -
Ask yourself this. If there were no slavery in the US would there have been a Civil War? The South was fighting to be able to keep the institution of slavery. Yeah they had other issues but nearly all of them were tied to keeping slavery.haie said:
Why do people get emotional over this? I hate the south. But the civil war wasn't over slavery.dnc said:
Yeah this is revisionist bullshit. Read what the defectors said at the time of secession, not what they said to cast themselves as the victims years later. Read the declarations of secession. Read the cornerstone speech.haie said:
It was because the South didn't feel they would have a voice in the union anymore. It wasn't fought over slavery.dnc said:It wasn't a war fought to perpetuate slavery, it was a war fought to free the fucking slaves. Which it did, incidentally.
The Civil War has a much better racial connotation than say, the name Oregon or Oregon State.
SoFuckingIrritating.gif
The Confederacy was entirely about slavery. -
What fucking “decision” driven by virtue signaling shitbird cry-bullies isn’t?MikeDamone said:Why do people even think it has anything to do with the American Civil war? A civil war is basically a war between citizens of the same country/state?
This decision is both arrogant and ignorant
Get in line, Nazi fascist. Otherwise they’ll call you a racist in public and ruin your livelihood, because feelings are more important than facts or context.
Enjoy living under the new rules, which will be made up as things go along. -
Because a. It's a lie. and b. That lie has been used for 150 years to justify all kinds of nonsense.haie said:
Why do people get emotional over this? I hate the south. But the civil war wasn't over slavery.dnc said:
Yeah this is revisionist bullshit. Read what the defectors said at the time of secession, not what they said to cast themselves as the victims years later. Read the declarations of secession. Read the cornerstone speech.haie said:
It was because the South didn't feel they would have a voice in the union anymore. It wasn't fought over slavery.dnc said:It wasn't a war fought to perpetuate slavery, it was a war fought to free the fucking slaves. Which it did, incidentally.
The Civil War has a much better racial connotation than say, the name Oregon or Oregon State.
SoFuckingIrritating.gif
The Confederacy was entirely about slavery.
