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Ex-cop, 64, and son, 34, are arrested and charged with MURDER of black jogger Ahmaud Arbery

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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827

    Another case where a jury is required to do the impossible task of reading minds, one of which is dead. Quickly switches to "What would I have done in that situation?" While regrettable that the son took the shotgun out of the truck while dad was already holding & aiming, I'm trying to find 1 person out of twelve who will say, as the jogger, "I would've bull-rushed the guy holding the shotgun - to Defend myself."

    How the hell do you get 12 jurors to feel the same way, given that video?

    Murder guys? Really?
    Yes. Murder.

    100% murder.

    If the law determines that it wasn't murder than the law needs to be changed.

    Responsibility is completely on the shooters in this case. You initiate a confrontation and do so while brandishing a loaded weapon you assume responsibility for what happens from there. i

    This shouldn't be complicated.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,020 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Yes. Murder.

    100% murder.

    If the law determines that it wasn't murder than the law needs to be changed.

    Responsibility is completely on the shooters in this case. You initiate a confrontation and do so while brandishing a loaded weapon you assume responsibility for what happens from there. i

    This shouldn't be complicated.
    Very unlikely murder 1 under the circs. Long shot at Murder 2, maybe 20% chance.

    Not just the law, but the facts a jury finds are key and 12 must agree. That agreement thing is the catch.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,621
    I vote they walk so the libs cry.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827

    Another case where a jury is required to do the impossible task of reading minds, one of which is dead. Quickly switches to "What would I have done in that situation?" While regrettable that the son took the shotgun out of the truck while dad was already holding & aiming, I'm trying to find 1 person out of twelve who will say, as the jogger, "I would've bull-rushed the guy holding the shotgun - to Defend myself."

    How the hell do you get 12 jurors to feel the same way, given that video?

    Murder guys? Really?
    Murder 2 at the very least and a hate crime to boot.

    They should fry.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/mcmichaels-hearing-ahmaud-arbery/index.html
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,020 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    You are so fucking stupid it hurts. Kill yourself.
    DAMN! That's quite an indictment! You are one unfortunate White Devil, MBT.

    @Swaye is usually satisfied with a White Devil label and a Scalp. This time he's going full Comanche on your Ass. Rawhide, Red Ants and everything.

    Seems your stupidity crossed the wrong Injun this time. Every man, white or red, has his Limits and you've obviously exceeded.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,020 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Murder 2 at the very least and a hate crime to boot.

    They should fry.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/mcmichaels-hearing-ahmaud-arbery/index.html
    It's the running toward and grabbing of the gun that's going to hang this jury up. I can't see 12 people agreeing that running toward, grabbing, punching a guy several times and fighting for possession of a shotgun wasn't a threat to the man with the gun, who has a right to defend himself.

    I agree they provoked the confrontation and bear responsibility for escalating and turning the situation deadly, but I can't reconcile why the dead kid goes after the gun. And I think a handful of jurors are likely to get hung up on that.
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