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Ex-cop, 64, and son, 34, are arrested and charged with MURDER of black jogger Ahmaud Arbery

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    Weird how I didn’t hear of this until today.

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/indiana-worker-fatally-shot-over-delayed-stimulus-check-report/

    have been fatally shot over delayed stimulus check
    By Kenneth Garger

    April 30, 2020 | 10:43pm


    So less than two weeks after she died.

    As opposed to Arbaury who you never heard of until over two months after his death.

    Strong point.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Is there an icon for that?
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited May 2020
    dnc said:

    Weird how I didn’t hear of this until today.

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/indiana-worker-fatally-shot-over-delayed-stimulus-check-report/

    have been fatally shot over delayed stimulus check
    By Kenneth Garger

    April 30, 2020 | 10:43pm


    So less than two weeks after she died.

    As opposed to Arbaury who you never heard of until over two months after his death.

    Strong point.
    I think a USPS Mail carrier being gunned down while delivering mail is newsworthy as well. Sorry you don’t. Anybody running 2.23 miles for the postal worker?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855



    dnc said:

    Weird how I didn’t hear of this until today.

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/indiana-worker-fatally-shot-over-delayed-stimulus-check-report/

    have been fatally shot over delayed stimulus check
    By Kenneth Garger

    April 30, 2020 | 10:43pm


    So less than two weeks after she died.

    As opposed to Arbaury who you never heard of until over two months after his death.

    Strong point.
    I think a USPS Mail carrier being gunned down while delivering mail is newsworthy as well. Sorry you don’t. Anybody running 2.23 miles for the postal worker?
    I didn't say it wasn't newsworthy. Fuck off with the strawmen.

    You are more than welcome to run as far as you like for her.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,273
    edited May 2020
    Bottom line: black yellow white or brown, you chase someone with a gun, the legal standard is not going to be the same as if you were standing your ground in your property. Call the cops and take the risk the guy gets away. It’s best for you and everyone else. Chasing someone who you think is a criminal is by itself a bad idea. Doing it with a gun adds to the risk bigly.

    Right or wrong, when it involves black and white people, especially in the south, there’s going to be a shit storm because of a lot history. Most who read it that way didn’t get the memo that everything got worked out in the 60s. YMMV.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Without the release of the video do they get charged?

    Nope.

    Pretty amazing that it was video that their boy took that did them in.

    You can't chase a dude down with a gun then act surprised and claim self defense when there's a struggle for the gun.

    There was an attempt at self defense but it wasn't by the two who are still alive.
    I can't see how running towards a loaded gun is self-defense. It might work in the movies, but Jason Bourne isn't real.

    Real life is different, as this video shows.

    The defense is going to argue that anyone who goes at a guy who's legally holding a loaded gun shows a dangerous intent on the part of the victim in this case. And, in all likelihood, it's going to stick with a couple jurors.

    I'm not proud of it at all, but this is a very Trayvon type situation here. And to me, that case is a tragedy of epic proportions, but not surprising.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676

    dnc said:

    Without the release of the video do they get charged?

    Nope.

    Pretty amazing that it was video that their boy took that did them in.

    You can't chase a dude down with a gun then act surprised and claim self defense when there's a struggle for the gun.

    There was an attempt at self defense but it wasn't by the two who are still alive.
    I can't see how running towards a loaded gun is self-defense. It might work in the movies, but Jason Bourne isn't real.

    Real life is different, as this video shows.

    The defense is going to argue that anyone who goes at a guy who's legally holding a loaded gun shows a dangerous intent on the part of the victim in this case. And, in all likelihood, it's going to stick with a couple jurors.

    I'm not proud of it at all, but this is a very Trayvon type situation here. And to me, that case is a tragedy of epic proportions, but not surprising.
    Pretty much this

    I was hoping to rile up the Fremont's of the world but theyve pretty much all been taken by the vid
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,566 Standard Supporter

    Bottom line: black yellow white or brown, you chase someone with a gun, the legal standard is not going to be the same as if you were standing your ground in your property. Call the cops and take the risk the guy gets away. It’s best for you and everyone else. Chasing someone who you think is a criminal is by itself a bad idea. Doing it with a gun adds to the risk bigly.

    Right or wrong, when it involves black and white people, especially in the south, there’s going to be a shit storm because of a lot history. Most who read it that way didn’t get the memo that everything got worked out in the 60s. YMMV.

    They should change all those laws that allow it then. Even Kali has private persons arrests and arming yourself to do so is legal. Shocker I know.

    Sometimes those things are needed. I'm not saying this was one of them don't twist.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Sledog said:

    Bottom line: black yellow white or brown, you chase someone with a gun, the legal standard is not going to be the same as if you were standing your ground in your property. Call the cops and take the risk the guy gets away. It’s best for you and everyone else. Chasing someone who you think is a criminal is by itself a bad idea. Doing it with a gun adds to the risk bigly.

    Right or wrong, when it involves black and white people, especially in the south, there’s going to be a shit storm because of a lot history. Most who read it that way didn’t get the memo that everything got worked out in the 60s. YMMV.

    They should change all those laws that allow it then. Even Kali has private persons arrests and arming yourself to do so is legal. Shocker I know.

    Sometimes those things are needed. I'm not saying this was one of them don't twist.
    Agree 100%.

    If it turns out what these dudes did was legal then the laws need to be changed. Yesterday.