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Yeah I thought about that but my point was these guys can't hit shit.pawz said:
Honest question. Is it even possible to hit a beach ball out of the infield on the fly?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Could 1 guy on the Mariners hit 300 if they got to hit beach balls?
It always seems like the spin on the ball or the wind makes that shit go down faster than CollegeDoog at Neighbors (nttiawwt) -
Last time I looked at Zunino's average it was early in the week when he was hitting .280. Throw a 1 for 15 week out there and he's down to .234. Still concerned about his inability to draw a walk. But if he was to produce something about .250 this year with a .450 slugging % (which he's above at this point), I'd say that that's not too bad for someone that really should still be in AAA.
Paxton passes the eye test. Agree that Walker needs to stay healthy but he also passes the eye test. Agree that Iwakuma probably had about as good of a year that he could have last year but that doesn't mean that he won't be productive going forward. Vargas definitely isn't a sexy pitcher, but not a bad #4 or #5 to have in your rotation - same with Fister.
Ackley also went into the shitter this week with a 1 for 15 week taking his average from .279 down to .237. If he's hitting .280/.350/.420 with 10-20 steals, it's not ideal, but not terrible.
Once again, one of the biggest problems this team has is that it's asking so much out of its young players instead of putting them in positions to get their feet wet and confidence without having pressure just heaped on top of them. -
If you are still paying attention to this fucking dreckfest, you need to chug paint thinner.
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Hi there.RoadDawg55 said:
12? You're reaching Tequilla territory with that. April had the Astros (3), Marlins (3), and Angels (5). That's not that hard of a schedule. June is much tougher. They won't win more than 2 of their first 10 games in June. The first 10 games of June are Detroit (1), @Atlanta (2), @ TB (4), NY (3). The games are @KC and they also play Boston (3) and Cleveland (3). Counting on winning 2 of 3 against Texas because they just did it? Texas is a way better team and could have swept the Mariners.dnc said:
I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.RoadDawg55 said:Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.
I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners
It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.
The current winning percentage of the Mariner's April opponents is 53.2. The current winning percentage of the Mariner's June opponents is 50.9. Probably too early to say the April opponents are better, but they're certainly close to the caliber of the June opponents and possibly better.
OTOH, the M's have 15 road games with 11 home games in April, whereas they have 15 home games with 12 road games in June.
The April schedule is harder by every objective measure we have right now. There's no way in hell June is "much tougher". -
The Rays, and Red Sox are under .500, but are two of the best teams in the AL every year. The Indians are 11-14, but were a playoff team last year. It's not hard to understand why June is tougher. Take all the screenshots you need, June is going to be a disaster for the Mariners. You and Tequilla are Mariner doogs (Mooiners?).dnc said:
Hi there.RoadDawg55 said:
12? You're reaching Tequilla territory with that. April had the Astros (3), Marlins (3), and Angels (5). That's not that hard of a schedule. June is much tougher. They won't win more than 2 of their first 10 games in June. The first 10 games of June are Detroit (1), @Atlanta (2), @ TB (4), NY (3). The games are @KC and they also play Boston (3) and Cleveland (3). Counting on winning 2 of 3 against Texas because they just did it? Texas is a way better team and could have swept the Mariners.dnc said:
I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.RoadDawg55 said:Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.
I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners
It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.
The current winning percentage of the Mariner's April opponents is 53.2. The current winning percentage of the Mariner's June opponents is 50.9. Probably too early to say the April opponents are better, but they're certainly close to the caliber of the June opponents and possibly better.
OTOH, the M's have 15 road games with 11 home games in April, whereas they have 15 home games with 12 road games in June.
The April schedule is harder by every objective measure we have right now. There's no way in hell June is "much tougher". -
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You said they win 5 in June, I said they win 12. That makes the over/under 8.5 with you taking the under and me the over. I like my chances.RoadDawg55 said:
The Rays, and Red Sox are under .500, but are two of the best teams in the AL every year. The Indians are 11-14, but were a playoff team last year. It's not hard to understand why June is tougher. Take all the screenshots you need, June is going to be a disaster for the Mariners. You and Tequilla are Mariner doogs (Mooiners?).dnc said:
Hi there.RoadDawg55 said:
12? You're reaching Tequilla territory with that. April had the Astros (3), Marlins (3), and Angels (5). That's not that hard of a schedule. June is much tougher. They won't win more than 2 of their first 10 games in June. The first 10 games of June are Detroit (1), @Atlanta (2), @ TB (4), NY (3). The games are @KC and they also play Boston (3) and Cleveland (3). Counting on winning 2 of 3 against Texas because they just did it? Texas is a way better team and could have swept the Mariners.dnc said:
I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.RoadDawg55 said:Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.
I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners
It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.
The current winning percentage of the Mariner's April opponents is 53.2. The current winning percentage of the Mariner's June opponents is 50.9. Probably too early to say the April opponents are better, but they're certainly close to the caliber of the June opponents and possibly better.
OTOH, the M's have 15 road games with 11 home games in April, whereas they have 15 home games with 12 road games in June.
The April schedule is harder by every objective measure we have right now. There's no way in hell June is "much tougher".
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BTW, going by the simulated wins in BP's Playoff Odds Report, neither the April nor June schedules are really that tough.
It has the average opponent (on a per game) in April as finishing with 81.75 wins, and the average opponent in June finishing with 81.77 wins.
I used to be pretty up on advanced baseball stats, but the mass proliferation of the industry coupled with my waning interest thanks to the Mariner dreckfest, I've fallen pretty far behind the last few years. I'm sure there are much better win projection systems out there than this one - Fangraphs has to have one, at least - but I don't care enough to do the legwork to find them.
If you have one you like better feel free to share. This one was easy to to find and works for a quick and dirty projection. And it confirmed what we already knew - the problem ain't the schedule, it's the M's. -
is it tough? yes. But you are overrating some of the teams.RoadDawg55 said:
The Rays, and Red Sox are under .500, but are two of the best teams in the AL every year. The Indians are 11-14, but were a playoff team last year. It's not hard to understand why June is tougher. Take all the screenshots you need, June is going to be a disaster for the Mariners. You and Tequilla are Mariner doogs (Mooiners?).dnc said:
Hi there.RoadDawg55 said:
12? You're reaching Tequilla territory with that. April had the Astros (3), Marlins (3), and Angels (5). That's not that hard of a schedule. June is much tougher. They won't win more than 2 of their first 10 games in June. The first 10 games of June are Detroit (1), @Atlanta (2), @ TB (4), NY (3). The games are @KC and they also play Boston (3) and Cleveland (3). Counting on winning 2 of 3 against Texas because they just did it? Texas is a way better team and could have swept the Mariners.dnc said:
I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.RoadDawg55 said:Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.
I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners
It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.
The current winning percentage of the Mariner's April opponents is 53.2. The current winning percentage of the Mariner's June opponents is 50.9. Probably too early to say the April opponents are better, but they're certainly close to the caliber of the June opponents and possibly better.
OTOH, the M's have 15 road games with 11 home games in April, whereas they have 15 home games with 12 road games in June.
The April schedule is harder by every objective measure we have right now. There's no way in hell June is "much tougher".
Everything came together for Cleveland last year. Their closer is now Axford (yikes) their rotation lost kazmir and salazar seems to have forgotten how to pitch.
The rays are beat up in the rotation, I picked them to make the WS but without moore, cobb is out until at leas the end of may. And price may be gone by then.
The red sox are gonna be good, as good as last year? no. But they're a solid WC team.
It isn't that tough, but does it really matter? the mariners aren't doing shit regardless of the opponent -
Without being a mooniner ... and in no way trying to frame this as being a mooniner ...
But there are 3 teams in the AL right now with a 15-10 record (2 of which are in the AL West). With the exception of Houston at 9-17 and the 3 teams at the top with 15-10 records, the other 11 teams in the league range from a record of 12-9 (Detroit) to 10-14 (Seattle).
Over time, yes, you would expect that there will be some teams that separate themselves from the pack. However, one month through the season, what we've basically seen in the AL is that there are a lot of teams that have significant flaws and not really any team that comes across as being a dominating juggernaut.
