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I like to call adrian beltre a fucktard because he hit a bullet and got unlucky. I also call a spectacular play "right to him" I do thatpawz said:
They shouldn't have. With the bases loaded and 1 out in the 9th inning, they were doing their damned best at cooging the first game until some fucktard hit the ball straight into Smoak's glove to end the game.dnc said:
I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.RoadDawg55 said:Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.
I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners
It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.
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dhdawg said:
I listened to a podcast of Jack Z on KJR and he said this "the true blue fans will come with an open mind and know if we were healthy things would be different"
that's what he says.
Is the rotation decimated with injury, yes, but I'll bring back up my formula to winning baseball.
4 deep in the rotation: when healthy, check Felix, Iwakuma, Paxton, Elias (who actually looks good) a lot of teams would take that 1-2-3-4. (forgetting Walker in this group IF healthy)
Superstar in the lineup, nope. Cano is not playing like a superstar (Cano probably is the 1B star that needs a 1A star in the lineup; he's better than being a complementary star but probably not winning a title as the top offensive star
Complimentary star: check, cano.
Bullpen: nope, it's complete dogshit, no money being spent on it whatsoever outside of rodney, and the guys they have developed like furbush, medina, wilhelmsen, etc walk too many batters and are inconsistent as fuck. (this is probably the second biggest miss in that you SHOULD be able to put together a good pen year after year yet we fail repeatedly ... the biggest miss was not building up any kind of contingency plans for the rotation injuries - see signing Ervin Santana)
3-4 good role players in the lineup: Seager, and maybe hart. so no there as well. (a couple of the young guys have the potential to move into this category - but they aren't there right now)
They have no one who gets on base at the top, and the bottom is just a joke (Zunino has outperformed any expectations to this point). Not to mention their defense, especially outfield isn't very good as well.
Jack Z should've been canned last september (THIS) -
walker needs to stay healthy before he can be included in that.
Zunino is hitting sub .240
what young guys? they all have potential but nothing has ever come from it. I'm willing to be reasonable but I don't see it -
You guys really overrate this rotation. Can we wait until Paxton and Elias complete half a season before acting like they have done anything? I remember Jason Vargas looking like a great #2 pitcher for a couple months. He would end the year with a 4 + ERA, and revert back to the #4 starter he truly was. Same with Walker. Good prospects are a dime a dozen. They don't always turn out well. Not to mention, durability is a skill. A pitcher that is always injured isn't an asset.
Iwakuma probably had a career year last year. With the innings limit with the young guys, you need more than 5 starters. Maurer and Ramirez are fucking terrible. It's a pretty average rotation. I'll give you that it has some potential, but right now, it sucks. -
Tequilla, Zunino is hitting .214. How the fuck is that outperforming expectations? He hits a few home runs and all of a sudden he's outperforming expectations? It's fucking April. He hasn't done jack shit in his career. I also disagree about young guys becoming capable major leaguers. Smoak is a terrible offensive first basemen and has been his entire career so far. Even if Ackley hits .280, it's .280 without power at a corner outfield spot. Almonte can't hit. Saunders can't hit. Who are these young guys you speak of?
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the eye test means something in this case. Paxton has looked absolutely filthy when healthy. How many guys have 95 MPH and then a wicked slider. As for Elias I will wait, but he looks like a capable #4 right nowRoadDawg55 said:You guys really overrate this rotation. Can we wait until Paxton and Elias complete half a season before acting like they have done anything? I remember Jason Vargas looking like a great #2 pitcher for a couple months. He would end the year with a 4 + ERA, and revert back to the #4 starter he truly was. Same with Walker. Good prospects are a dime a dozen. They don't always turn out well. Not to mention, durability is a skill. A pitcher that is always injured isn't an asset.
Iwakuma probably had a career year last year. With the innings limit with the young guys, you need more than 5 starters. Maurer and Ramirez are fucking terrible. It's a pretty average rotation. I'll give you that it has some potential, but right now, it sucks. -
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must be all the great prospects we now have in AAA.RoadDawg55 said:Tequilla, Zunino is hitting .214. How the fuck is that outperforming expectations? He hits a few home runs and all of a sudden he's outperforming expectations? It's fucking April. He hasn't done jack shit in his career. I also disagree about young guys becoming capable major leaguers. Smoak is a terrible offensive first basemen and has been his entire career so far. Even if Ackley hits .280, it's .280 without power at a corner outfield spot. Almonte can't hit. Saunders can't hit. Who are these young guys you speak of?
Mariner prospects are like sark recruits, Doogs/Marinoors love them, then they see them play and they hate them. Miller is going through the same thing right now
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I agree. More than likely, they are capable pitchers. It remains to be seen if they can stay healthy. That's almost half the battle for young guys.dhdawg said:
the eye test means something in this case. Paxton has looked absolutely filthy when healthy. How many guys have 95 MPH and then a wicked slider. As for Elias I will wait, but he looks like a capable #4 right nowRoadDawg55 said:You guys really overrate this rotation. Can we wait until Paxton and Elias complete half a season before acting like they have done anything? I remember Jason Vargas looking like a great #2 pitcher for a couple months. He would end the year with a 4 + ERA, and revert back to the #4 starter he truly was. Same with Walker. Good prospects are a dime a dozen. They don't always turn out well. Not to mention, durability is a skill. A pitcher that is always injured isn't an asset.
Iwakuma probably had a career year last year. With the innings limit with the young guys, you need more than 5 starters. Maurer and Ramirez are fucking terrible. It's a pretty average rotation. I'll give you that it has some potential, but right now, it sucks. -
I like to use the term fucktard when I didn't remember who the batter was off the top of my head. I do that. And since you identified Beltre, lets us not forget, WDWHA. WDWHA also seems to inherently justify the fucktard moniker.dhdawg said:
I like to call adrian beltre a fucktard because he hit a bullet and got unlucky. I also call a spectacular play "right to him" I do thatpawz said:
They shouldn't have. With the bases loaded and 1 out in the 9th inning, they were doing their damned best at cooging the first game until some fucktard hit the ball straight into Smoak's glove to end the game.dnc said:
I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.RoadDawg55 said:Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.
I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners
It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.
The Mariners suck ballzack.
Further, when a base ball goes from the bat directly into the mitt - regardless of how many cartwheels were done in the interim - that's how you get an out.
Your moisture over the mute poonts does not change that fact the Mooriners tried their best to coogit, and had no business winning winning 2 of 3. -
No one is disagreeing that the mariners suck, but there's a big difference between someone having to dive in a split second to catch a line drive and a ball going right into someone's glove without them having to even move.
The Mariners were lucky to win that game, but doesn't mean you should undersell the play smoak made
