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Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.

I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.

    I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners

    I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.

    It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    Way too much Mariners talk in here. Revenge of the nerds territory.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.

    I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners

    I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.

    It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.

    They shouldn't have. With the bases loaded and 1 out in the 9th inning, they were doing their damned best at cooging the first game until some fucktard hit the ball straight into Smoak's glove to end the game.

    The Mariners suck ballzack.
  • DugtheDoog
    DugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180
    edited April 2014


    They shouldn't have. With the bases loaded and 1 out in the 9th inning, they were doing their damned best at cooging the first game until some fucktard hit the ball straight into Smoak's glove to end the game.

    The Mariners suck ballzack.


    They really tried to lose that game, but you and I must have been watching a different last play of the game. Beltre laced it and Smoak made a damn nice play. Lucky or not, the ball was not hit "straight into Smoak's glove."
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    edited April 2014
    dnc said:

    Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.

    I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners

    I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.

    It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.

    12? You're reaching Tequilla territory with that. April had the Astros (3), Marlins (3), and Angels (5). That's not that hard of a schedule. June is much tougher. They won't win more than 2 of their first 10 games in June. The first 10 games of June are Detroit (1), @Atlanta (2), @ TB (4), NY (3). The games are @KC and they also play Boston (3) and Cleveland (3). Counting on winning 2 of 3 against Texas because they just did it? Texas is a way better team and could have swept the Mariners.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    edited April 2014



    They shouldn't have. With the bases loaded and 1 out in the 9th inning, they were doing their damned best at cooging the first game until some fucktard hit the ball straight into Smoak's glove to end the game.

    The Mariners suck ballzack.


    They really tried to lose that game, but you and I must have been watching a different last play of the game. Beltre laced it and Smoak made a damn nice play. Lucky or not, the ball was not hit "straight into Smoak's glove."

    Thanks for clarifying, Mrs Smoak. The important part as pertains to this thread is your first 7 words
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.

    I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners

    I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.

    It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.

    12? You're reaching Tequilla territory with that. April had the Astros (3), Marlins (3), and Angels (5). That's not that hard of a schedule. June is much tougher. They won't win more than 2 of their first 10 games in June. The first 10 games of June are Detroit (1), @Atlanta (2), @ TB (4), NY (3). The games are @KC and they also play Boston (3) and Cleveland (3). Counting on winning 2 of 3 against Texas because they just did it? Texas is a way better team and SHOULD have swept the Mariners.
    FTFY
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Could 1 guy on the Mariners hit 300 if they got to hit beach balls?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club

    Could 1 guy on the Mariners hit 300 if they got to hit beach balls?

    Honest question. Is it even possible to hit a beach ball out of the infield on the fly?

    It always seems like the spin on the ball or the wind makes that shit go down faster than CollegeDoog at Neighbors (nttiawwt)
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    I listened to a podcast of Jack Z on KJR and he said this "the true blue fans will come with an open mind and know if we were healthy things would be different"
    that's what he says.
    Is the rotation decimated with injury, yes, but I'll bring back up my formula to winning baseball.
    4 deep in the rotation: when healthy, check Felix, Iwakuma, Paxton, Elias (who actually looks good) a lot of teams would take that 1-2-3-4.
    Superstar in the lineup, nope. Cano is not playing like a superstar
    Complimentary star: check, cano.
    Bullpen: nope, it's complete dogshit, no money being spent on it whatsoever outside of rodney, and the guys they have developed like furbush, medina, wilhelmsen, etc walk too many batters and are inconsistent as fuck.
    3-4 good role players in the lineup: Seager, and maybe hart. so no there as well.

    They have no one who gets on base at the top, and the bottom is just a joke. Not to mention their defense, especially outfield isn't very good as well.
    Jack Z should've been canned last september
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.

    I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners

    I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.

    It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.

    They shouldn't have. With the bases loaded and 1 out in the 9th inning, they were doing their damned best at cooging the first game until some fucktard hit the ball straight into Smoak's glove to end the game.

    The Mariners suck ballzack.
    I like to call adrian beltre a fucktard because he hit a bullet and got unlucky. I also call a spectacular play "right to him" I do that
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    dhdawg said:

    I listened to a podcast of Jack Z on KJR and he said this "the true blue fans will come with an open mind and know if we were healthy things would be different"
    that's what he says.
    Is the rotation decimated with injury, yes, but I'll bring back up my formula to winning baseball.
    4 deep in the rotation: when healthy, check Felix, Iwakuma, Paxton, Elias (who actually looks good) a lot of teams would take that 1-2-3-4. (forgetting Walker in this group IF healthy)
    Superstar in the lineup, nope. Cano is not playing like a superstar (Cano probably is the 1B star that needs a 1A star in the lineup; he's better than being a complementary star but probably not winning a title as the top offensive star
    Complimentary star: check, cano.
    Bullpen: nope, it's complete dogshit, no money being spent on it whatsoever outside of rodney, and the guys they have developed like furbush, medina, wilhelmsen, etc walk too many batters and are inconsistent as fuck. (this is probably the second biggest miss in that you SHOULD be able to put together a good pen year after year yet we fail repeatedly ... the biggest miss was not building up any kind of contingency plans for the rotation injuries - see signing Ervin Santana)
    3-4 good role players in the lineup: Seager, and maybe hart. so no there as well. (a couple of the young guys have the potential to move into this category - but they aren't there right now)

    They have no one who gets on base at the top, and the bottom is just a joke (Zunino has outperformed any expectations to this point). Not to mention their defense, especially outfield isn't very good as well.
    Jack Z should've been canned last september (THIS)

  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    walker needs to stay healthy before he can be included in that.

    Zunino is hitting sub .240

    what young guys? they all have potential but nothing has ever come from it. I'm willing to be reasonable but I don't see it
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    You guys really overrate this rotation. Can we wait until Paxton and Elias complete half a season before acting like they have done anything? I remember Jason Vargas looking like a great #2 pitcher for a couple months. He would end the year with a 4 + ERA, and revert back to the #4 starter he truly was. Same with Walker. Good prospects are a dime a dozen. They don't always turn out well. Not to mention, durability is a skill. A pitcher that is always injured isn't an asset.

    Iwakuma probably had a career year last year. With the innings limit with the young guys, you need more than 5 starters. Maurer and Ramirez are fucking terrible. It's a pretty average rotation. I'll give you that it has some potential, but right now, it sucks.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Tequilla, Zunino is hitting .214. How the fuck is that outperforming expectations? He hits a few home runs and all of a sudden he's outperforming expectations? It's fucking April. He hasn't done jack shit in his career. I also disagree about young guys becoming capable major leaguers. Smoak is a terrible offensive first basemen and has been his entire career so far. Even if Ackley hits .280, it's .280 without power at a corner outfield spot. Almonte can't hit. Saunders can't hit. Who are these young guys you speak of?
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    You guys really overrate this rotation. Can we wait until Paxton and Elias complete half a season before acting like they have done anything? I remember Jason Vargas looking like a great #2 pitcher for a couple months. He would end the year with a 4 + ERA, and revert back to the #4 starter he truly was. Same with Walker. Good prospects are a dime a dozen. They don't always turn out well. Not to mention, durability is a skill. A pitcher that is always injured isn't an asset.

    Iwakuma probably had a career year last year. With the innings limit with the young guys, you need more than 5 starters. Maurer and Ramirez are fucking terrible. It's a pretty average rotation. I'll give you that it has some potential, but right now, it sucks.

    the eye test means something in this case. Paxton has looked absolutely filthy when healthy. How many guys have 95 MPH and then a wicked slider. As for Elias I will wait, but he looks like a capable #4 right now
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
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    Tequilla, Zunino is hitting .214. How the fuck is that outperforming expectations? He hits a few home runs and all of a sudden he's outperforming expectations? It's fucking April. He hasn't done jack shit in his career. I also disagree about young guys becoming capable major leaguers. Smoak is a terrible offensive first basemen and has been his entire career so far. Even if Ackley hits .280, it's .280 without power at a corner outfield spot. Almonte can't hit. Saunders can't hit. Who are these young guys you speak of?

    must be all the great prospects we now have in AAA.
    Mariner prospects are like sark recruits, Doogs/Marinoors love them, then they see them play and they hate them. Miller is going through the same thing right now
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    dhdawg said:

    You guys really overrate this rotation. Can we wait until Paxton and Elias complete half a season before acting like they have done anything? I remember Jason Vargas looking like a great #2 pitcher for a couple months. He would end the year with a 4 + ERA, and revert back to the #4 starter he truly was. Same with Walker. Good prospects are a dime a dozen. They don't always turn out well. Not to mention, durability is a skill. A pitcher that is always injured isn't an asset.

    Iwakuma probably had a career year last year. With the innings limit with the young guys, you need more than 5 starters. Maurer and Ramirez are fucking terrible. It's a pretty average rotation. I'll give you that it has some potential, but right now, it sucks.

    the eye test means something in this case. Paxton has looked absolutely filthy when healthy. How many guys have 95 MPH and then a wicked slider. As for Elias I will wait, but he looks like a capable #4 right now
    I agree. More than likely, they are capable pitchers. It remains to be seen if they can stay healthy. That's almost half the battle for young guys.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club
    dhdawg said:

    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.

    I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners

    I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.

    It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.

    They shouldn't have. With the bases loaded and 1 out in the 9th inning, they were doing their damned best at cooging the first game until some fucktard hit the ball straight into Smoak's glove to end the game.

    The Mariners suck ballzack.
    I like to call adrian beltre a fucktard because he hit a bullet and got unlucky. I also call a spectacular play "right to him" I do that
    I like to use the term fucktard when I didn't remember who the batter was off the top of my head. I do that. And since you identified Beltre, lets us not forget, WDWHA. WDWHA also seems to inherently justify the fucktard moniker.

    Further, when a base ball goes from the bat directly into the mitt - regardless of how many cartwheels were done in the interim - that's how you get an out.


    Your moisture over the mute poonts does not change that fact the Mooriners tried their best to coogit, and had no business winning winning 2 of 3.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    No one is disagreeing that the mariners suck, but there's a big difference between someone having to dive in a split second to catch a line drive and a ball going right into someone's glove without them having to even move.

    The Mariners were lucky to win that game, but doesn't mean you should undersell the play smoak made
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    pawz said:

    Could 1 guy on the Mariners hit 300 if they got to hit beach balls?

    Honest question. Is it even possible to hit a beach ball out of the infield on the fly?

    It always seems like the spin on the ball or the wind makes that shit go down faster than CollegeDoog at Neighbors (nttiawwt)
    Yeah I thought about that but my point was these guys can't hit shit.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Last time I looked at Zunino's average it was early in the week when he was hitting .280. Throw a 1 for 15 week out there and he's down to .234. Still concerned about his inability to draw a walk. But if he was to produce something about .250 this year with a .450 slugging % (which he's above at this point), I'd say that that's not too bad for someone that really should still be in AAA.

    Paxton passes the eye test. Agree that Walker needs to stay healthy but he also passes the eye test. Agree that Iwakuma probably had about as good of a year that he could have last year but that doesn't mean that he won't be productive going forward. Vargas definitely isn't a sexy pitcher, but not a bad #4 or #5 to have in your rotation - same with Fister.

    Ackley also went into the shitter this week with a 1 for 15 week taking his average from .279 down to .237. If he's hitting .280/.350/.420 with 10-20 steals, it's not ideal, but not terrible.

    Once again, one of the biggest problems this team has is that it's asking so much out of its young players instead of putting them in positions to get their feet wet and confidence without having pressure just heaped on top of them.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    If you are still paying attention to this fucking dreckfest, you need to chug paint thinner.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited April 2014

    dnc said:

    Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.

    I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners

    I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.

    It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.

    12? You're reaching Tequilla territory with that. April had the Astros (3), Marlins (3), and Angels (5). That's not that hard of a schedule. June is much tougher. They won't win more than 2 of their first 10 games in June. The first 10 games of June are Detroit (1), @Atlanta (2), @ TB (4), NY (3). The games are @KC and they also play Boston (3) and Cleveland (3). Counting on winning 2 of 3 against Texas because they just did it? Texas is a way better team and could have swept the Mariners.
    Hi there.

    The current winning percentage of the Mariner's April opponents is 53.2. The current winning percentage of the Mariner's June opponents is 50.9. Probably too early to say the April opponents are better, but they're certainly close to the caliber of the June opponents and possibly better.

    OTOH, the M's have 15 road games with 11 home games in April, whereas they have 15 home games with 12 road games in June.

    The April schedule is harder by every objective measure we have right now. There's no way in hell June is "much tougher".
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    edited April 2014
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.

    I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners

    I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.

    It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.

    12? You're reaching Tequilla territory with that. April had the Astros (3), Marlins (3), and Angels (5). That's not that hard of a schedule. June is much tougher. They won't win more than 2 of their first 10 games in June. The first 10 games of June are Detroit (1), @Atlanta (2), @ TB (4), NY (3). The games are @KC and they also play Boston (3) and Cleveland (3). Counting on winning 2 of 3 against Texas because they just did it? Texas is a way better team and could have swept the Mariners.
    Hi there.

    The current winning percentage of the Mariner's April opponents is 53.2. The current winning percentage of the Mariner's June opponents is 50.9. Probably too early to say the April opponents are better, but they're certainly close to the caliber of the June opponents and possibly better.

    OTOH, the M's have 15 road games with 11 home games in April, whereas they have 15 home games with 12 road games in June.

    The April schedule is harder by every objective measure we have right now. There's no way in hell June is "much tougher".
    The Rays, and Red Sox are under .500, but are two of the best teams in the AL every year. The Indians are 11-14, but were a playoff team last year. It's not hard to understand why June is tougher. Take all the screenshots you need, June is going to be a disaster for the Mariners. You and Tequilla are Mariner doogs (Mooiners?).
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.

    I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners

    I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.

    It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.

    12? You're reaching Tequilla territory with that. April had the Astros (3), Marlins (3), and Angels (5). That's not that hard of a schedule. June is much tougher. They won't win more than 2 of their first 10 games in June. The first 10 games of June are Detroit (1), @Atlanta (2), @ TB (4), NY (3). The games are @KC and they also play Boston (3) and Cleveland (3). Counting on winning 2 of 3 against Texas because they just did it? Texas is a way better team and could have swept the Mariners.
    Hi there.

    The current winning percentage of the Mariner's April opponents is 53.2. The current winning percentage of the Mariner's June opponents is 50.9. Probably too early to say the April opponents are better, but they're certainly close to the caliber of the June opponents and possibly better.

    OTOH, the M's have 15 road games with 11 home games in April, whereas they have 15 home games with 12 road games in June.

    The April schedule is harder by every objective measure we have right now. There's no way in hell June is "much tougher".
    The Rays, and Red Sox are under .500, but are two of the best teams in the AL every year. The Indians are 11-14, but were a playoff team last year. It's not hard to understand why June is tougher. Take all the screenshots you need, June is going to be a disaster for the Mariners. You and Tequilla are Mariner doogs (Mooiners?).
    You said they win 5 in June, I said they win 12. That makes the over/under 8.5 with you taking the under and me the over. I like my chances.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    BTW, going by the simulated wins in BP's Playoff Odds Report, neither the April nor June schedules are really that tough.

    It has the average opponent (on a per game) in April as finishing with 81.75 wins, and the average opponent in June finishing with 81.77 wins.

    I used to be pretty up on advanced baseball stats, but the mass proliferation of the industry coupled with my waning interest thanks to the Mariner dreckfest, I've fallen pretty far behind the last few years. I'm sure there are much better win projection systems out there than this one - Fangraphs has to have one, at least - but I don't care enough to do the legwork to find them.

    If you have one you like better feel free to share. This one was easy to to find and works for a quick and dirty projection. And it confirmed what we already knew - the problem ain't the schedule, it's the M's.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
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    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Fuck Kyle Seager for hitting two HR's today. He's the 3rd REAL major league player in the M's lineup (Cano, Hart, Seager). I saw the Mariners were down 5-0 which made me happy. I want the Mariners to lose every game just so Tequilla is wrong. I need something to tide me over once the NBA playoffs are over until football starts. I'm looking forward to reading the box scores when the Yankees sweep them on Tuesday.

    I looked at the Mariners schedule and started laughing at the month of June. The over/under for wins in that month is 5. I'm not kidding either. For the other Mariner haters like myself, take a look at how much fun June will be.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners

    I'd put them down for 12 wins that month. They just took 2 of 3 from Texas at home, they'll probably split in San Diego and win at least one in KC. There's your 5 right there. I think they can win 7 of the rest.

    It's a TUFF schedule month, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's that much TUFFER than April.

    12? You're reaching Tequilla territory with that. April had the Astros (3), Marlins (3), and Angels (5). That's not that hard of a schedule. June is much tougher. They won't win more than 2 of their first 10 games in June. The first 10 games of June are Detroit (1), @Atlanta (2), @ TB (4), NY (3). The games are @KC and they also play Boston (3) and Cleveland (3). Counting on winning 2 of 3 against Texas because they just did it? Texas is a way better team and could have swept the Mariners.
    Hi there.

    The current winning percentage of the Mariner's April opponents is 53.2. The current winning percentage of the Mariner's June opponents is 50.9. Probably too early to say the April opponents are better, but they're certainly close to the caliber of the June opponents and possibly better.

    OTOH, the M's have 15 road games with 11 home games in April, whereas they have 15 home games with 12 road games in June.

    The April schedule is harder by every objective measure we have right now. There's no way in hell June is "much tougher".
    The Rays, and Red Sox are under .500, but are two of the best teams in the AL every year. The Indians are 11-14, but were a playoff team last year. It's not hard to understand why June is tougher. Take all the screenshots you need, June is going to be a disaster for the Mariners. You and Tequilla are Mariner doogs (Mooiners?).
    is it tough? yes. But you are overrating some of the teams.
    Everything came together for Cleveland last year. Their closer is now Axford (yikes) their rotation lost kazmir and salazar seems to have forgotten how to pitch.
    The rays are beat up in the rotation, I picked them to make the WS but without moore, cobb is out until at leas the end of may. And price may be gone by then.
    The red sox are gonna be good, as good as last year? no. But they're a solid WC team.

    It isn't that tough, but does it really matter? the mariners aren't doing shit regardless of the opponent
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Without being a mooniner ... and in no way trying to frame this as being a mooniner ...

    But there are 3 teams in the AL right now with a 15-10 record (2 of which are in the AL West). With the exception of Houston at 9-17 and the 3 teams at the top with 15-10 records, the other 11 teams in the league range from a record of 12-9 (Detroit) to 10-14 (Seattle).

    Over time, yes, you would expect that there will be some teams that separate themselves from the pack. However, one month through the season, what we've basically seen in the AL is that there are a lot of teams that have significant flaws and not really any team that comes across as being a dominating juggernaut.