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Trick or Treat Tony is arguably the best perimeter defender in the league ...
But what happened last night wasn't because of Tony Allen ... let's be real about that. -
If you can't see it had a hell of a lot to do with Durant going 4-11 when TA was guarding him then I can't help you.Tequilla said:Trick or Treat Tony is arguably the best perimeter defender in the league ...
But what happened last night wasn't because of Tony Allen ... let's be real about that.
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Tony Allen is the best perimeter defender in the league ... if anybody is going to slow KD down, he's got as much chance as anybody.
What I was referencing was the 28 shots each for KD and Westbrook ... last night wasn't the first time it has happened. It won't be the last time either. And it wasn't 28 shots each because of Tony Allen's presence on the court. Westbrook does this stuff all the time regardless. -
But you're missing the bigger point here, which is without Harden they don't have anybody else to take those shots.Tequilla said:Tony Allen is the best perimeter defender in the league ... if anybody is going to slow KD down, he's got as much chance as anybody.
What I was referencing was the 28 shots each for KD and Westbrook ... last night wasn't the first time it has happened. It won't be the last time either. And it wasn't 28 shots each because of Tony Allen's presence on the court. Westbrook does this stuff all the time regardless.
It's either Durant or Westbrook.
It's not like Durant only getting 28 shots is some travesty. 28 is plenty of shots. The problem is without Harden they don't have anyone to take Westbrook's shots down to the 15-18 range where they belong.
But yes, I do believe Allen had something to do with why Durant was at 28 and not at 34.
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But what you're getting at DNC is that the FS one of the group starts with Sam Presti for a fucktarded roster creation, then heads to Scott BrooksFS for creating an environment where there is a clear out left and right, and then to Westbrook for not doing more to create easy shots for others and instead defaults to his own shots.
When Harden was on the roster, the offense consisted of the 3 of them being on the court, figuring out who had the mismatch, and more or less playing isolation ball with the best matchup on the court. That's NOT going to win you a title.
The more time passes, the more I'm convinced that they won't win a title with a KD and Westbrook combo and I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of them leaves OKC when their current contract expires. We'll see how good of a NBA market that is AFTER they go into the crapper and don't have a generational talent to watch each and every night. -
Down voted due to I call Tony Allen TA that's what I like to do however recd X 5 for the Aubs reference.dnc said:Westbrook tak too many shots, without question. But part of the reason Durant only got 28 shots last night is Tony Allen frustrated the hell out of him when he was guarding him. TA was the MVP of that game for Memphis, with Westbrook in an AuburnDawgesque tie for second with Randolph
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Last night was the perfect example of a game where OKC missed Harden incredibly badly. -
Some good points.
They got nothing in return for Harden so it was a bad move. Paid Ibaka way too much after betting he could be a 3rd option as Tequilla said. True, OKC is not a destination but you'd have to think with that big 3 they could attract some free agent help.
Tony Allen is amazing and clearly won game 2.
Even if Westbrook improved and was more efficient offensively OK lacks the supporting cast. It really is terrible compared to what Miami has, SA, Dallas, etc. Great point RoadDawg.
We saw that again this game where Memphis could just focus its D on Durant and Westbrook.
Even when Chicago had MJ and Pippen they also had Kukoc, Rodman and guys like Harper and Longley that were not liabilities at either end. During their first run they had Paxson plus Grant and Armstrong who became All-Stars the year after MJ left. -
Can Jeremy Lamb get some fucking pt? Caron Butler and Derek Fisher are garbage and OKC needs all the offense they can get. Jackson has been shitty too.
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I do think the media and those in the basketball community crowned Presti as a genius too quickly. He aced the lottery three years in a row plus nabbed Ibaka late. However that shows he is a good scout not an NBA GM.
Trading Harden, going with Brooks this long and the inability to put up a competent NBA roster 4-12 has to fall on him.
I think Presti needs to take some heat as well. -
Heck of a GS comeback going on. Can they finish?
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NeedsMoreTime @NegaDawg 5mdnc said:Heck of a GS comeback going on. Can they finish?
Steph Curry can't be ice cold the entire series can he?
Then immediately after he drills back to back 3's. Clippers have themselves to blame for this and Doc my #3 coach in the league went with Big Baby for way too long and it cost them some easy boards. -
Curry shouldn't have forced that, surely they could have gotten a better shot there.He_Needs_More_Time said:
NeedsMoreTime @NegaDawg 5mdnc said:Heck of a GS comeback going on. Can they finish?
Steph Curry can't be ice cold the entire series can he?
Then immediately after he drills back to back 3's. Clippers have themselves to blame for this and Doc my #3 coach in the league went with Big Baby for way too long and it cost them some easy boards.
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Today's era of basketball. Just wind the clock down and take a hero three, if it goes in you are the talk of the day.dnc said:
Curry shouldn't have forced that, surely they could have gotten a better shot there.He_Needs_More_Time said:
NeedsMoreTime @NegaDawg 5mdnc said:Heck of a GS comeback going on. Can they finish?
Steph Curry can't be ice cold the entire series can he?
Then immediately after he drills back to back 3's. Clippers have themselves to blame for this and Doc my #3 coach in the league went with Big Baby for way too long and it cost them some easy boards.
Even Lebron settles for that and Durant too. Annoys me when stars do that. -
I told you my Clippers would be fine.
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Took a real generous call on that Griffin/Green foul to get the W. 8 times out of 10 (hi Tequila!) the home team gets that call.CuntWaffle said:I told you my Clippers would be fine.
GS wins game 4
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I think Clippers win the series as DeAndre Jordan is that X-Factor with his rebounding and blocks.dnc said:
Took a real generous call on that Griffin/Green foul to get the W. 8 times out of 10 (hi Tequila!) the home team gets that call.CuntWaffle said:I told you my Clippers would be fine.
GS wins game 4
However Klay-Curry are due for a game where they can't miss that game is coming. -
Agree the Clips win, but home court carries the Warriors to a win with a great shooting game 4.He_Needs_More_Time said:
I think Clippers win the series as DeAndre Jordan is that X-Factor with his rebounding and blocks.dnc said:
Took a real generous call on that Griffin/Green foul to get the W. 8 times out of 10 (hi Tequila!) the home team gets that call.CuntWaffle said:I told you my Clippers would be fine.
GS wins game 4
However Klay-Curry are due for a game where they can't miss that game is coming.
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Oh the refs handed them that game for sure. Golden State shit the bed in the 3rd quarter though.
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Doc deserves credit for making Jordan into a good NBA player. He just wasn't that last year, had a really good season and having a great playoffs.
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"He looked a little aggressive coming down on someone's head Shaq"
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Not having Bogut is crippling them.
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I figured Golden State would run more but they aren't. I don't get it since last year they lost David Lee basically and won a playoff series. They also pushed the Spurs.CuntWaffle said:Not having Bogut is crippling them.
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Yeah the reliance on the 3 may be exciting to some but its become a hindrance to good fundamental offense. Thats why I like Memphis. They don't rely on the 3, they don't have a star, they play great defense and they have a versatile big man (Gasol) that is so much more skilled then a typical big man.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Today's era of basketball. Just wind the clock down and take a hero three, if it goes in you are the talk of the day.dnc said:
Curry shouldn't have forced that, surely they could have gotten a better shot there.He_Needs_More_Time said:
NeedsMoreTime @NegaDawg 5mdnc said:Heck of a GS comeback going on. Can they finish?
Steph Curry can't be ice cold the entire series can he?
Then immediately after he drills back to back 3's. Clippers have themselves to blame for this and Doc my #3 coach in the league went with Big Baby for way too long and it cost them some easy boards.
Even Lebron settles for that and Durant too. Annoys me when stars do that.
I think the Europeanization of the NBA is one explanation for the prevalence of the 3. -
The three when used properly is a hell of a weapon. See Spurs, San Antonio.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Yeah the reliance on the 3 may be exciting to some but its become a hindrance to good fundamental offense. Thats why I like Memphis. They don't rely on the 3, they don't have a star, they play great defense and they have a versatile big man (Gasol) that is so much more skilled then a typical big man.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Today's era of basketball. Just wind the clock down and take a hero three, if it goes in you are the talk of the day.dnc said:
Curry shouldn't have forced that, surely they could have gotten a better shot there.He_Needs_More_Time said:
NeedsMoreTime @NegaDawg 5mdnc said:Heck of a GS comeback going on. Can they finish?
Steph Curry can't be ice cold the entire series can he?
Then immediately after he drills back to back 3's. Clippers have themselves to blame for this and Doc my #3 coach in the league went with Big Baby for way too long and it cost them some easy boards.
Even Lebron settles for that and Durant too. Annoys me when stars do that.
I think the Europeanization of the NBA is one explanation for the prevalence of the 3.
Creating your own three is not using it properly though. Curry had a very unselfish night so I hate to bang on him too hard, but in a situation like that where you only need a two I'd probably put the ball in KlayKlay's hands where the defense has to respect that he can get you the bucket by putting it on the floor or pulling up at any time.
Memphis is my team, but their biggest weakness is their lack of three point shooting. It's at least improved from last season.
Game 4 is going to be huge. If Memphis can win that one and have a chance to close it out at home in game 5, I think we'll see an upset.
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Only the NBA Finals were 2-3-2(now they are 2-2-1-1-1 starting this year again), the rest are 2-2-1-1-1.dnc said:
The three when used properly is a hell of a weapon. See Spurs, San Antonio.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Yeah the reliance on the 3 may be exciting to some but its become a hindrance to good fundamental offense. Thats why I like Memphis. They don't rely on the 3, they don't have a star, they play great defense and they have a versatile big man (Gasol) that is so much more skilled then a typical big man.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Today's era of basketball. Just wind the clock down and take a hero three, if it goes in you are the talk of the day.dnc said:
Curry shouldn't have forced that, surely they could have gotten a better shot there.He_Needs_More_Time said:
NeedsMoreTime @NegaDawg 5mdnc said:Heck of a GS comeback going on. Can they finish?
Steph Curry can't be ice cold the entire series can he?
Then immediately after he drills back to back 3's. Clippers have themselves to blame for this and Doc my #3 coach in the league went with Big Baby for way too long and it cost them some easy boards.
Even Lebron settles for that and Durant too. Annoys me when stars do that.
I think the Europeanization of the NBA is one explanation for the prevalence of the 3.
Creating your own three is not using it properly though. Curry had a very unselfish night so I hate to bang on him too hard, but in a situation like that where you only need a two I'd probably put the ball in KlayKlay's hands where the defense has to respect that he can get you the bucket by putting it on the floor or pulling up at any time.
Memphis is my team, but their biggest weakness is their lack of three point shooting. It's at least improved from last season.
Game 4 is going to be huge. If Memphis can win that one and have a chance to close it out at home in game 5, I think we'll see an upset.
Memphis big problem is they don't have a Super Star. In the NBA since 1980 if you don't have a super star you have a ceiling and can only go so far.
2004 Detroit is the only exception and they had 4 all-stars in their starting lineup plus Okur off the bench, great coaching and played a team who hated each other in the Finals. -
I read a good article on Grantland about the Rockets-Blazers series. The Rockets are basically a 3's, dunks, and FT's team. Their GM is huge on advanced stats and analytics. They shoot very few mid range jumpers. Meanwhile, Aldridge is scoring the majority of his points from mid range.
It's why the analytics are not always accurate. I think it's still very important to have a guy who drills mid range jumpers. Jordan did most of his damage from mid range, especially during the 2nd three peat. Dirk in 2011. I'm sure there are many more examples.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-rocket-killer-breaking-down-lamarcus-aldridges-playoff-scoring/ -
Good poont, forgot it was 2-2-1-1-1.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Only the NBA Finals were 2-3-2(now they are 2-2-1-1-1 starting this year again), the rest are 2-2-1-1-1.dnc said:
The three when used properly is a hell of a weapon. See Spurs, San Antonio.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Yeah the reliance on the 3 may be exciting to some but its become a hindrance to good fundamental offense. Thats why I like Memphis. They don't rely on the 3, they don't have a star, they play great defense and they have a versatile big man (Gasol) that is so much more skilled then a typical big man.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Today's era of basketball. Just wind the clock down and take a hero three, if it goes in you are the talk of the day.dnc said:
Curry shouldn't have forced that, surely they could have gotten a better shot there.He_Needs_More_Time said:
NeedsMoreTime @NegaDawg 5mdnc said:Heck of a GS comeback going on. Can they finish?
Steph Curry can't be ice cold the entire series can he?
Then immediately after he drills back to back 3's. Clippers have themselves to blame for this and Doc my #3 coach in the league went with Big Baby for way too long and it cost them some easy boards.
Even Lebron settles for that and Durant too. Annoys me when stars do that.
I think the Europeanization of the NBA is one explanation for the prevalence of the 3.
Creating your own three is not using it properly though. Curry had a very unselfish night so I hate to bang on him too hard, but in a situation like that where you only need a two I'd probably put the ball in KlayKlay's hands where the defense has to respect that he can get you the bucket by putting it on the floor or pulling up at any time.
Memphis is my team, but their biggest weakness is their lack of three point shooting. It's at least improved from last season.
Game 4 is going to be huge. If Memphis can win that one and have a chance to close it out at home in game 5, I think we'll see an upset.
Memphis big problem is they don't have a Super Star. In the NBA since 1980 if you don't have a super star you have a ceiling and can only go so far.
2004 Detroit is the only exception and they had 4 all-stars in their starting lineup plus Okur off the bench, great coaching and played a team who hated each other in the Finals.
Regardless, if Memphis has a chance to close it out at the Grindhouse (ILTCTFEFTGH) I like their chances. If OKC takes Game 4 I think the Zombie Sonics will win the series.
I agree Memphis won't be going all the way, but Mark Gasol is damn close to a superstar when it comes to actual on court ability. He doesn't have the star power, but what that guy brings at both ends of the court is massive. The only teams with #1 players I'd take over Gasol are Miami, OKC, and Indiana, and maybe San Antonio and Houston. Yes, I'd take him over any player in the Clippers-GS series.
Maybe I'm being a homer, but I love a guy who produces on both ends and doesn't have to be the focal point of the offense. -
I like Gasol, but Blake Griffin, Chris Paul, and Steph Curry are all better. Gasol is very valuable though, especially being a true center. Good defense, physical, makes open jumpers, passes well. A skilled European who can actually bang with the best of them.dnc said:
Good poont, forgot it was 2-2-1-1-1.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Only the NBA Finals were 2-3-2(now they are 2-2-1-1-1 starting this year again), the rest are 2-2-1-1-1.dnc said:
The three when used properly is a hell of a weapon. See Spurs, San Antonio.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Yeah the reliance on the 3 may be exciting to some but its become a hindrance to good fundamental offense. Thats why I like Memphis. They don't rely on the 3, they don't have a star, they play great defense and they have a versatile big man (Gasol) that is so much more skilled then a typical big man.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Today's era of basketball. Just wind the clock down and take a hero three, if it goes in you are the talk of the day.dnc said:
Curry shouldn't have forced that, surely they could have gotten a better shot there.He_Needs_More_Time said:
NeedsMoreTime @NegaDawg 5mdnc said:Heck of a GS comeback going on. Can they finish?
Steph Curry can't be ice cold the entire series can he?
Then immediately after he drills back to back 3's. Clippers have themselves to blame for this and Doc my #3 coach in the league went with Big Baby for way too long and it cost them some easy boards.
Even Lebron settles for that and Durant too. Annoys me when stars do that.
I think the Europeanization of the NBA is one explanation for the prevalence of the 3.
Creating your own three is not using it properly though. Curry had a very unselfish night so I hate to bang on him too hard, but in a situation like that where you only need a two I'd probably put the ball in KlayKlay's hands where the defense has to respect that he can get you the bucket by putting it on the floor or pulling up at any time.
Memphis is my team, but their biggest weakness is their lack of three point shooting. It's at least improved from last season.
Game 4 is going to be huge. If Memphis can win that one and have a chance to close it out at home in game 5, I think we'll see an upset.
Memphis big problem is they don't have a Super Star. In the NBA since 1980 if you don't have a super star you have a ceiling and can only go so far.
2004 Detroit is the only exception and they had 4 all-stars in their starting lineup plus Okur off the bench, great coaching and played a team who hated each other in the Finals.
Regardless, if Memphis has a chance to close it out at the Grindhouse (ILTCTFEFTGH) I like their chances. If OKC takes Game 4 I think the Zombie Sonics will win the series.
I agree Memphis won't be going all the way, but Mark Gasol is damn close to a superstar when it comes to actual on court ability. He doesn't have the star power, but what that guy brings at both ends of the court is massive. The only teams with #1 players I'd take over Gasol are Miami, OKC, and Indiana, and maybe San Antonio and Houston. Yes, I'd take him over any player in the Clippers-GS series.
Maybe I'm being a homer, but I love a guy who produces on both ends and doesn't have to be the focal point of the offense.
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The problem is that Dirk and MJ were unstoppable from mid range. And Aldridge, in the first two games, has been as well. Houston doesn't have anyone like that. They could try and get Parsons, Harden and Lin mid range shots but getting them 3's is more efficient and spaces the floor better.RoadDawg55 said:I read a good article on Grantland about the Rockets-Blazers series. The Rockets are basically a 3's, dunks, and FT's team. Their GM is huge on advanced stats and analytics. They shoot very few mid range jumpers. Meanwhile, Aldridge is scoring the majority of his points from mid range.
It's why the analytics are not always accurate. I think it's still very important to have a guy who drills mid range jumpers. Jordan did most of his damage from mid range, especially during the 2nd three peat. Dirk in 2011. I'm sure there are many more examples.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-rocket-killer-breaking-down-lamarcus-aldridges-playoff-scoring/
I think ideally you'd like to have that mid range guy but I don't think it's worth forcing it if you don't. -
The only thing I'd like to see from him is being a little bit more aggressive on offense. He's great but I'll take the 35 from Blake Griffin over all the things he does.dnc said:
Good poont, forgot it was 2-2-1-1-1.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Only the NBA Finals were 2-3-2(now they are 2-2-1-1-1 starting this year again), the rest are 2-2-1-1-1.dnc said:
The three when used properly is a hell of a weapon. See Spurs, San Antonio.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Yeah the reliance on the 3 may be exciting to some but its become a hindrance to good fundamental offense. Thats why I like Memphis. They don't rely on the 3, they don't have a star, they play great defense and they have a versatile big man (Gasol) that is so much more skilled then a typical big man.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Today's era of basketball. Just wind the clock down and take a hero three, if it goes in you are the talk of the day.dnc said:
Curry shouldn't have forced that, surely they could have gotten a better shot there.He_Needs_More_Time said:
NeedsMoreTime @NegaDawg 5mdnc said:Heck of a GS comeback going on. Can they finish?
Steph Curry can't be ice cold the entire series can he?
Then immediately after he drills back to back 3's. Clippers have themselves to blame for this and Doc my #3 coach in the league went with Big Baby for way too long and it cost them some easy boards.
Even Lebron settles for that and Durant too. Annoys me when stars do that.
I think the Europeanization of the NBA is one explanation for the prevalence of the 3.
Creating your own three is not using it properly though. Curry had a very unselfish night so I hate to bang on him too hard, but in a situation like that where you only need a two I'd probably put the ball in KlayKlay's hands where the defense has to respect that he can get you the bucket by putting it on the floor or pulling up at any time.
Memphis is my team, but their biggest weakness is their lack of three point shooting. It's at least improved from last season.
Game 4 is going to be huge. If Memphis can win that one and have a chance to close it out at home in game 5, I think we'll see an upset.
Memphis big problem is they don't have a Super Star. In the NBA since 1980 if you don't have a super star you have a ceiling and can only go so far.
2004 Detroit is the only exception and they had 4 all-stars in their starting lineup plus Okur off the bench, great coaching and played a team who hated each other in the Finals.
Regardless, if Memphis has a chance to close it out at the Grindhouse (ILTCTFEFTGH) I like their chances. If OKC takes Game 4 I think the Zombie Sonics will win the series.
I agree Memphis won't be going all the way, but Mark Gasol is damn close to a superstar when it comes to actual on court ability. He doesn't have the star power, but what that guy brings at both ends of the court is massive. The only teams with #1 players I'd take over Gasol are Miami, OKC, and Indiana, and maybe San Antonio and Houston. Yes, I'd take him over any player in the Clippers-GS series.
Maybe I'm being a homer, but I love a guy who produces on both ends and doesn't have to be the focal point of the offense.
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