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LOUDER for the people in the back!Beno4Life said:
And here we are, where we're actually talking ourselves OUT of signing Simon. My god were clueless. Not quite Gregory level but close.
You ever think that coaches look at his lack of development due to high school coaching/scheme/training rather than the dude has the size and instincts and we just need to get him in a real college football development/training program and see what happens?
I'd take a million Simons and Banks over Phonzo Tupatalu, Cooper McDonald, Jackson Sirmon, or even MJ Tafisi (and I'm basing that off of HS tape).
Have we already forgotten the state of the linebacking room from last season? Give me all the Simons and Banks for this room. Gregory ain't going to attract anything better. This man played fucking Kyler Manu the entire season and coached wellington into regression. Lets stack the room. -
YoU uP?AtomicDawg said:
People aren’t talking themselves out of Simon. There is a decent amount of posters that don’t think he is very good and never have. I have no problem either way. I think he is an avg linebacker recruit but we likely are not getting anyone better and I don’t want to be on the phone late drunk dialing Taylor Hindy with an offer.
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Fuck. That.UDubHusky23 said:
LOUDER for the people in the back!
Have we already forgotten the state of the linebacking room from last season? Give me all the Simons and Banks for this room. Gregory ain't going to attract anything better. This man played fucking Kyler Manu the entire season and coached wellington into regression. Lets stack the room.
Look, Gregory has fucked the dog in recruiting very recently, and the MLB situation in 2019 was one of the worst things I've seen in purple since Ty, but he turned two different three-stars into All-Americans, and another is on an NFL roster in spite of size challenges. You'll have to show me film of Wellington being awesome before you can credibly claim Gregory coached him into being worse.
I'm fine for holding coaches accountable, but let's call out failings that are clearly demonstrable, like the last 18 months or so of recruiting. -
Current state of instate recruiting:
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This implies it’s on the mend. Dogfallsdownstairs.gifhuskyhooligan said:Current state of instate recruiting:
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Is Tinae a RB that will split out or he just a WR? I remember a while ago he mentioned they talked to him about RB
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Because of this move @sonics1993 is swimming with the fishesSwaye said:Good chit @sonics1993 normally this stuff is in the Wam but I decided to be a benevolent dictator and allow the pours a taste. Also, Derek stopped sending me my drug money allowance due to Covid so this is me acting out.
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No way. I love me some sonics.FireCohen said: -
I don't even love myself as much as I love tattooed sluts.dirtysouwfdawg said: -
You really have to hate yourself first, it just opens the door to finding Ms. Desperate/Needy
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I can vouch for this one.dannarc said:You really have to hate yourself first, it just opens the door to finding Ms. Desperate/Needy
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He has above average speed for LB. (faster than the current roster, except maybe Eddie or Hemuli) Much of his HUDL is @ RB -- NAIA likeRoadDawg55 said:
Not being physical in high school when playing LB is a problem. He’s not very fast either and he’s close to maxed out. I’m not sure how you can watch his Hudl and think he’s that good, but the 24/7 guys do too.
Two guys I trust, twice have clocked him @ mid to upper 4.6's. He doesn't look amazing in space. So what. Our defense needs a WL that can run sideline to sideline, make backside tackles, and cover. That's Simon.
He's not a .95 TBS darling, overall he looks like a .90. Whatever the case, he fits our defense.
Gregory dicked around offering, and the offer finally came as a 2 way player, which, as described, he is not. Offer him as a WIL or don't offer @ all.
In any event, it's another Bob Gregory, El Floppo production. -
I don’t disagree with you on your assessment, in fact I agree. But.... as a recruiting noid on the bored, I gotta address two items.Baseman said:
He has above average speed for LB. (faster than the current roster, except maybe Eddie or Hemuli) Much of his HUDL is @ RB -- NAIA like
Two guys I trust, twice have clocked him @ mid to upper 4.6's. He doesn't look amazing in space. So what. Our defense needs a WL that can run sideline to sideline, make backside tackles, and cover. That's Simon.
He's not a .95 TBS darling, overall he looks like a .90. Whatever the case, he fits our defense.
Gregory dicked around offering, and the offer finally came as a 2 way player, which, as described, he is not. Offer him as a WIL or don't offer @ all.
In any event, it's another Bob Gregory, El Floppo production.
Simon wasn’t offered late. He was offered June 22nd of last year. Prior to his Junior year starting. And it was at LB. they didn’t start talking to him about being a RB until now.
Just for posterity. -
At the end of the day we only truly need 1 inside backer in this class unless there’s some attrition unless we want 14 ILBs on scholarship. As long as we get one really good one like Wynden then that’s okay. Simon doesn’t move the needle in any one direction.
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True but don't tell a kid from Tacoma "we need to see you play in person before we offer," when we already had offered out of state '21 kids. Moronic. Great, prioritize better LB's. Don't offer but don't have delusions Simon is a two way player.DoogCourics said:
I don’t disagree with you on your assessment, in fact I agree. But.... as a recruiting noid on the bored, I gotta address two items.
Simon wasn’t offered late. He was offered June 22nd of last year. Prior to his Junior year starting. And it was at LB. they didn’t start talking to him about being a RB until now.
Just for posterity.
Bob's closing and evaluation record speaks for itself. -
I am not pro Bob at all but I have no problem recruiting Simon as a RB. He is quite capable at the position.
If he doesn't want to play RB that's fine and you adjust and get him here at LB. But they didn't fuck anything up by suggesting he could play RB. He absolutely could. -
This really doesn't sound like anyone's problem but Simon's. He's not a can't-miss recruit and it shouldn't matter where our talent comes from, as long as we get that talent (which obviously remains to be seen). We just let a fellow local 4* LB walk to Virginia without offering. Why are we not clenching our teeth about that? We offered Simon a year ago and like FKA said, we only really need 1 inside backer. Shit or get off the pot, Julien.
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I feel like this all comes down to Simon being a local guy. He's not an elite prospect but a solid one. What he does and how UW treats him will have some effect on local perception of the program. Is that enough to justify hand wringing over a mid to upper mid tier LB prospect?
I'm not feeling it.
I am, however, on the "get rid of Gregory last year" bandwagon with both feet. There are better guys out there who would come to UW in a heartbeat. Young guys who can relate to kids and their parents, who by many of our standards are kids themselves. If you're going to be old you have to be cool (think Racebannon away from the Tug) and this guy clearly is not. -
Does showing sustained love to Simon move the needle at all with JTT and Jayden Wayne? Simon's a great kid, he's local, and he's being heavily recruited by USC. But even if he was a Kyler Manu--which he's not--would a JTT-Wayne combo be worth a 3rd scholly? Do we (?) really want the Trojans to have an inroad with FSP?FKA_Mousecop said:...Simon doesn’t move the needle in any one direction.
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He's best friends with the best player in the country, well connected with a plethora of in state talent, and a well above average recruit.CallMeBigErn said:This really doesn't sound like anyone's problem but Simon's. He's not a can't-miss recruit and it shouldn't matter where our talent comes from, as long as we get that talent (which obviously remains to be seen). We just let a fellow local 4* LB walk to Virginia without offering. Why are we not clenching our teeth about that? We offered Simon a year ago and like FKA said, we only really need 1 inside backer. Shit or get off the pot, Julien.
I'm not for taking scrubs to help get their better frens and teammates.
Simon's not a scrub and would be in no way a waste of a schools.
Not getting him because you got outrecruited would be a major failure.
Not getting him because you didn't want him would be a major failure.
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*schollydnc said:
He's best friends with the best player in the country, well connected with a plethora of in state talent, and a well above average recruit.
I'm not for taking scrubs to help get their better frens and teammates.
Simon's not a scrub and would be in no way a waste of a schools.
Not getting him because you got outrecruited would be a major failure.
Not getting him because you didn't want him would be a major failure.
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*chin-statednc said:
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What would happen to our in state bumper crop if the Pac 12 doesn't play and the SEC and ACC do? Because I am pretty sure they will.
On the other side of that coin, Lane Kiffin said yesterday that a school loaded with blue chips like Bama might find the players not willing to play and will just wait for the draft. He's looking for and edge at Ol Miss
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RaceBannon said:
What would happen to our in state bumper crop if the Pac 12 doesn't play and the SEC and ACC do? Because I am pretty sure they will.
On the other side of that coin, Lane Kiffin said yesterday that a school loaded with blue chips like Bama might find the players not willing to play and will just wait for the draft. He's looking for and edge at Ol Miss
Either way Washington will lose so we have that going for us
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Agree to Disagree. Wasted scholarship as a RB. He's no Shaq or Jack.dnc said:I am not pro Bob at all but I have no problem recruiting Simon as a RB. He is quite capable at the position.
If he doesn't want to play RB that's fine and you adjust and get him here at LB. But they didn't fuck anything up by suggesting he could play RB. He absolutely could.
I like the player and a big part of the appeal is the instate influence. If he was out of state and we end up with better, fine. We won't. What about Bob? says we will? -
I don’t think he’s Shaq or Jack as a RB.Baseman said:
Agree to Disagree. Wasted scholarship as a RB. He's no Shaq or Jack.
I like the player and a big part of the appeal is the instate influence. If he was out of state and we end up with better, fine. We won't. What about Bob? says we will?
I don’t think he’s Shaq or Jack as a LB either.
Those two were elite elite athletes. Jack is good.
He’s a step or two down from both which still makes him a guy you want. -
dnc said:
I don’t think he’s Shaq or Jack as a RB.
I don’t think he’s Shaq or Jack as a LB either.
Those two were elite elite athletes. Jack is good.
He’s a step or two down from both which still makes him a guy you want.
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Ah, so that is how they managed to fit so many people into a truck bed.GrundleStiltzkin said: -
YBPERatherBeBrewing said:
Ah, so that is how they managed to fit so many people into a truck bed.
You win the day.
