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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Sledog said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?

    This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."

    Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
    Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.

    Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
    Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.

    In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
    Losing a game in basketball, or picking a stock that underperforms the S&P500, are vastly different than running a business so poorly that it declares bankruptcy.

    You can run a business poorly, but have a small profit and pay your obligations.

    But running it so poorly that you declare bankruptcy, is like saying "fuck, I'm in way over my head here, I can't even afford to pay my debts. Gov't, please help me get of of my debts".

    When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
    OK! This is going from the ridiculous to the sublime. The US has been in over it's head for decades, spending more than it takes in, i.e., insolvent, except for one thing: It can always print more money. If a business owner could do that, even the worst of the worst would never go bankrupt. Apples vs Oranges, dummies.

    Hate the Trump and love the Hillary. Be my guest. But many of you are ill-educated financial morons growing dumber with each successive post. Someday the U.S. currency will cease to be the world standard, but probably not in any of our lifetimes. It was supposed to be the Yen, then the Euro, now the Yuon. And it ain't like Hillary has a fucking clue, either. No democrat has known fuck-all about money since Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Google him, shit-for-brains. You might learn something.
    "Reagan showed us that deficits don't matter."

    --Dick Cheney

    This thread is fascinating. First I learn that the US is bankrupt, and now I learn that in addition the US is insolvent. Way to teach up all the "financial morons" around here. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

    From the looks of it, more than half of the Hillary-loving/Trump-fearing bed-wetters don't even know that congress authorizes and controls federal spending. Seriously gonna take issue with my point? Trump's bankruptcies have as much to do with his potential presidency as Hillary's being a shitty wife has to do with hers. If these social media driven criteria are the key issues for some people, their lives are already fucked. That's all.
    I disagree with you. So do two Billionaires with more impressive resume's than Trump's.

    I'd say you are on the losing side.
    Stalin and Mao are dead.
    Pity you aren't.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    Only one thing is certain: We're electing an asshole this November.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    Hi there! The Country is already bankrupt. Soon interest on debt will be our 3rd biggest "program".

    That would be my last worry of a Trump Presidency.
    The US is bankrupt?1!!? Holy Shit, why didn't somebody say something?

    I didn't realize something like that could happen to a country with debt-to-GDP of 75% and possessing the world's reserve currency.

    Looks like @Swaye was right and it's time to bury a can filled with arrowheads, beads and doghides in the backyard.
    You mean over 100% and headed higher with interest rates sure to increaase on it. Sure.... were not Greece but were not healthy either


    "The deficit projected by CBO would increase debt held
    by the public to 76 percent of GDP by the end of 2016,
    the agency estimates—about 2 percentage points higher
    than it was last year and higher than it has been since the
    years immediately following World War II."

    --CBO, January 2016.

    Current year estimates (Fiscal Year 2016 ending Spet. 30) stay true to the 75% estimate. See also OMB and the FED (KOMO TV 4 and all that). The US government does not have debt outstanding greater than its gross domestic product.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited August 2016

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    Hi there! The Country is already bankrupt. Soon interest on debt will be our 3rd biggest "program".

    That would be my last worry of a Trump Presidency.
    The US is bankrupt?1!!? Holy Shit, why didn't somebody say something?

    I didn't realize something like that could happen to a country with debt-to-GDP of 75% and possessing the world's reserve currency.

    Looks like @Swaye was right and it's time to bury a can filled with arrowheads, beads and doghides in the backyard.
    You mean over 100% and headed higher with interest rates sure to increaase on it. Sure.... were not Greece but were not healthy either


    "The deficit projected by CBO would increase debt held
    by the public to 76 percent of GDP by the end of 2016,
    the agency estimates—about 2 percentage points higher
    than it was last year and higher than it has been since the
    years immediately following World War II."

    --CBO, January 2016.

    Current year estimates (Fiscal Year 2016 ending Spet. 30) stay true to the 75% estimate. See also OMB and the FED (KOMO TV 4 and all that). The US government does not have debt outstanding greater than its gross domestic product.

    I'm talking about Government debt. It's around 103%

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt-to-gdp

    So in other words.... you're full of shit. Your'e not counting intergovernmental debt such as liabilities to Social Security and such. It's still debt all the same.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    Hi there! The Country is already bankrupt. Soon interest on debt will be our 3rd biggest "program".

    That would be my last worry of a Trump Presidency.
    The US is bankrupt?1!!? Holy Shit, why didn't somebody say something?

    I didn't realize something like that could happen to a country with debt-to-GDP of 75% and possessing the world's reserve currency.

    Looks like @Swaye was right and it's time to bury a can filled with arrowheads, beads and doghides in the backyard.
    You mean over 100% and headed higher with interest rates sure to increaase on it. Sure.... were not Greece but were not healthy either


    "The deficit projected by CBO would increase debt held
    by the public to 76 percent of GDP by the end of 2016,
    the agency estimates—about 2 percentage points higher
    than it was last year and higher than it has been since the
    years immediately following World War II."

    --CBO, January 2016.

    Current year estimates (Fiscal Year 2016 ending Spet. 30) stay true to the 75% estimate. See also OMB and the FED (KOMO TV 4 and all that). The US government does not have debt outstanding greater than its gross domestic product.

    I'm talking about Government debt. It's around 103%

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt-to-gdp

    So in other words.... you're full of shit. Your'e not counting intergovernmental debt such as liabilities to Social Security and such. It's still debt all the same.
    How much of that government debt has pledged revenue streams. Such as bond debt held by a city?

    Holy fucktarded statistic.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?

    This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."

    Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
    Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.

    Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
    Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.

    In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
    Losing a game in basketball, or picking a stock that underperforms the S&P500, are vastly different than running a business so poorly that it declares bankruptcy.

    You can run a business poorly, but have a small profit and pay your obligations.

    But running it so poorly that you declare bankruptcy, is like saying "fuck, I'm in way over my head here, I can't even afford to pay my debts. Gov't, please help me get of of my debts".

    When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
    OK! This is going from the ridiculous to the sublime. The US has been in over it's head for decades, spending more than it takes in, i.e., insolvent, except for one thing: It can always print more money. If a business owner could do that, even the worst of the worst would never go bankrupt. Apples vs Oranges, dummies.

    Hate the Trump and love the Hillary. Be my guest. But many of you are ill-educated financial morons growing dumber with each successive post. Someday the U.S. currency will cease to be the world standard, but probably not in any of our lifetimes. It was supposed to be the Yen, then the Euro, now the Yuon. And it ain't like Hillary has a fucking clue, either. No democrat has known fuck-all about money since Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Google him, shit-for-brains. You might learn something.
    "Reagan showed us that deficits don't matter."

    --Dick Cheney

    This thread is fascinating. First I learn that the US is bankrupt, and now I learn that in addition the US is insolvent. Way to teach up all the "financial morons" around here. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

    From the looks of it, more than half of the Hillary-loving/Trump-fearing bed-wetters don't even know that congress authorizes and controls federal spending. Seriously gonna take issue with my point? Trump's bankruptcies have as much to do with his potential presidency as Hillary's being a shitty wife has to do with hers. If these social media driven criteria are the key issues for some people, their lives are already fucked. That's all.
    I bet money you've blasted Obama for excessive spending and bankrupting our country more than once.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,803 Founders Club
    I read the whole thread. Now

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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    Hi there! The Country is already bankrupt. Soon interest on debt will be our 3rd biggest "program".

    That would be my last worry of a Trump Presidency.
    The US is bankrupt?1!!? Holy Shit, why didn't somebody say something?

    I didn't realize something like that could happen to a country with debt-to-GDP of 75% and possessing the world's reserve currency.

    Looks like @Swaye was right and it's time to bury a can filled with arrowheads, beads and doghides in the backyard.
    You mean over 100% and headed higher with interest rates sure to increaase on it. Sure.... were not Greece but were not healthy either


    "The deficit projected by CBO would increase debt held
    by the public to 76 percent of GDP by the end of 2016,
    the agency estimates—about 2 percentage points higher
    than it was last year and higher than it has been since the
    years immediately following World War II."

    --CBO, January 2016.

    Current year estimates (Fiscal Year 2016 ending Spet. 30) stay true to the 75% estimate. See also OMB and the FED (KOMO TV 4 and all that). The US government does not have debt outstanding greater than its gross domestic product.

    I'm talking about Government debt. It's around 103%

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt-to-gdp

    So in other words.... you're full of shit. Your'e not counting intergovernmental debt such as liabilities to Social Security and such. It's still debt all the same.
    * You're

    Totally different things: the "hard" cost of publicly issued debt, versus debt that can be changed by policy. You have to pay bond holders or you default. Entitlement debt can be changed by policy (increasing the retirement age, means testing payments, etc.) Your bogus debt claims are not true until exchanged for a hard cost.

    But who cares. Bury your tin can in the backyard, scream BANKRUPTCY!1!, INSOLVENCY!11.

    In the end, your pocket will still be picked by people smarter than you.

  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?

    This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."

    Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
    Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.

    Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
    Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.

    In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
    Losing a game in basketball, or picking a stock that underperforms the S&P500, are vastly different than running a business so poorly that it declares bankruptcy.

    You can run a business poorly, but have a small profit and pay your obligations.

    But running it so poorly that you declare bankruptcy, is like saying "fuck, I'm in way over my head here, I can't even afford to pay my debts. Gov't, please help me get of of my debts".

    When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
    OK! This is going from the ridiculous to the sublime. The US has been in over it's head for decades, spending more than it takes in, i.e., insolvent, except for one thing: It can always print more money. If a business owner could do that, even the worst of the worst would never go bankrupt. Apples vs Oranges, dummies.

    Hate the Trump and love the Hillary. Be my guest. But many of you are ill-educated financial morons growing dumber with each successive post. Someday the U.S. currency will cease to be the world standard, but probably not in any of our lifetimes. It was supposed to be the Yen, then the Euro, now the Yuon. And it ain't like Hillary has a fucking clue, either. No democrat has known fuck-all about money since Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Google him, shit-for-brains. You might learn something.
    "Reagan showed us that deficits don't matter."

    --Dick Cheney

    This thread is fascinating. First I learn that the US is bankrupt, and now I learn that in addition the US is insolvent. Way to teach up all the "financial morons" around here. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

    From the looks of it, more than half of the Hillary-loving/Trump-fearing bed-wetters don't even know that congress authorizes and controls federal spending. Seriously gonna take issue with my point? Trump's bankruptcies have as much to do with his potential presidency as Hillary's being a shitty wife has to do with hers. If these social media driven criteria are the key issues for some people, their lives are already fucked. That's all.
    I bet money you've blasted Obama for excessive spending and bankrupting our country more than once.
    Way to go, kid. You'll be hitting without a batting tee before you know it.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    Hi there! The Country is already bankrupt. Soon interest on debt will be our 3rd biggest "program".

    That would be my last worry of a Trump Presidency.
    The US is bankrupt?1!!? Holy Shit, why didn't somebody say something?

    I didn't realize something like that could happen to a country with debt-to-GDP of 75% and possessing the world's reserve currency.

    Looks like @Swaye was right and it's time to bury a can filled with arrowheads, beads and doghides in the backyard.
    You mean over 100% and headed higher with interest rates sure to increaase on it. Sure.... were not Greece but were not healthy either


    "The deficit projected by CBO would increase debt held
    by the public to 76 percent of GDP by the end of 2016,
    the agency estimates—about 2 percentage points higher
    than it was last year and higher than it has been since the
    years immediately following World War II."

    --CBO, January 2016.

    Current year estimates (Fiscal Year 2016 ending Spet. 30) stay true to the 75% estimate. See also OMB and the FED (KOMO TV 4 and all that). The US government does not have debt outstanding greater than its gross domestic product.

    I'm talking about Government debt. It's around 103%

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt-to-gdp

    So in other words.... you're full of shit. Your'e not counting intergovernmental debt such as liabilities to Social Security and such. It's still debt all the same.
    * You're

    Totally different things: the "hard" cost of publicly issued debt, versus debt that can be changed by policy. You have to pay bond holders or you default. Entitlement debt can be changed by policy (increasing the retirement age, means testing payments, etc.) Your bogus debt claims are not true until exchanged for a hard cost.

    But who cares. Bury your tin can in the backyard, scream BANKRUPTCY!1!, INSOLVENCY!11.

    In the end, your pocket will still be picked by people smarter than you.

    Right because entitlement costs will go down give me a fuckin. Break. The new world order hasn't found a social program that it won't bolster to swell like a tick. Sure retirement ages may increase and Medicare benefits may shrink for the individual. But the costs of those entitlements will continue to spiral out of control even with such measures. My numbers are reality. Your numbers are akin to sticking your head in the sand pretending the obligations don't exist.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    This bored














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  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:


    I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.

    And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.

    How does Trump's dick taste?
    Like Hillary's butthole?
    LOL

    I missed this post all those years ago. What a great response.

    @Swaye

    #StopLivingInThePast
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:


    I don't see anything on that website that does an overall analysis on Trump's business successes vs failures. Nothing on the size and scope of those businesses. Just a list of failures. Like I've been saying all along, you have to have the complete picture. For example, if I own a business that's been steadily making me $10 million a year, I can afford to take risks with other businesses. Seriously, there is nothing of value to be learned from that article in terms of the overall success Trump has had with his businesses.

    And you're still wrong about the stock thing. CEO's and presidents are hired to do things that the owner(s) of the company do not want to do (maybe they aren't as good, maybe they have a better use of their time, etc). A financial advisor is hired to do things that the owners of the stock do not want to do. But at the end of the day, both the owner(s) of the company and the owner of the stock are responsible for evaluating the performance of the people they hired to perform the task.

    How does Trump's dick taste?
    Like Hillary's butthole?
    LOL

    I missed this post all those years ago. What a great response.

    @Swaye

    #StopLivingInThePast
    Better late than never I guess.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,146 Founders Club
    doogie said:

    an awful lotta dead hero’s in this thread

    Dead or just reinvented?
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925
    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?

    This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."

    Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
    Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.

    Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
    Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.

    In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
    When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
    And that time has arrived...

    This guy gets the Nostradamus award.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,146 Founders Club

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?

    This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."

    Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
    Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.

    Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
    Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.

    In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
    When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
    And that time has arrived...

    This guy gets the Nostradamus award.
    You were ridiculed then as you are now Ozone. Fuck Off!
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?

    This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."

    Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
    Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.

    Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
    Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.

    In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
    When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
    And that time has arrived...

    This guy gets the Nostradamus award.
    You were ridiculed then as you are now Ozone. Fuck Off!
    I don't know who you think you're talking to but you sound like a pussy.

    You'll fit in well in the Tug I guess.. with the rest of the Donald dick sucking pussies.

    But if you want to settle this man to man, let me know. 7-11 at Naches.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?

    This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."

    Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
    Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.

    Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
    Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.

    In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
    When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
    And that time has arrived...

    This guy gets the Nostradamus award.
    You were ridiculed then as you are now Ozone. Fuck Off!
    I don't know who you think you're talking to but you sound like a pussy.

    You'll fit in well in the Tug I guess.. with the rest of the Donald dick sucking pussies.

    But if you want to settle this man to man, let me know. 7-11 at Naches.
    How come so many new fish are so obsessed with cocksucking?

    Is Stalin advertising HH on the Glory Hole wall again?
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?

    This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."

    Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
    Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.

    Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
    Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.

    In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
    When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
    And that time has arrived...

    This guy gets the Nostradamus award.
    You were ridiculed then as you are now Ozone. Fuck Off!
    I don't know who you think you're talking to but you sound like a pussy.

    You'll fit in well in the Tug I guess.. with the rest of the Donald dick sucking pussies.

    But if you want to settle this man to man, let me know. 7-11 at Naches.
    How come so many new fish are so obsessed with cocksucking?

    Is Stalin advertising HH on the Glory Hole wall again?
    It's low hanging fruit to trigger your low IQ crowd.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2020

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:

    OZONE said:



    "Oh, he told a lady with a crying baby to leave his rally, that means he's going to bankrupt our country and let the Russians invade!"

    Nope. The reason people give for believing he could bankrupt the country is that he has already bankrupt 6 businesses, and welched on his debts to numerous working people that he owned money to before those business filed for bankruptcy protection for their debts.
    This isn't a smart way to look at it. How many businesses has he owned? How many didn't go bankrupt? Were other people in the same industry going bankrupt too?

    This is the equivalent at pulling up Hillary's stock portfolio, which is likely well-diversified, and then pointing to the few instances of failing stocks and saying "See? Hillary doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. She can't even invest in the stock market properly."

    Seriously, that is the exact same argument.
    Picking a losing stock as part of a diversified portfolio is very different than running your businesses so poorly that 6 of them went bankrupt.

    Two prominent billionaires have already criticized him for it. I mention this last part only because some of you guys seem to be really impressed by billionaires.
    Of course they are different. One is a stock, the other is a company. But that's not what we're looking at. The comparison is valid in terms of who is responsible, and whether or not we should be looking at just one piece or the entire picture.

    In other words, if you're going to try and make the argument that Trump sucks at running businesses, you have to look at EVERYTHING. You don't point to the games that John Wooden's UCLA teams lost and say "see, Wooden sucks at coaching".
    When Trump gets in way over his head with the US, who is going to bail him out?
    And that time has arrived...

    This guy gets the Nostradamus award.
    You were ridiculed then as you are now Ozone. Fuck Off!
    I don't know who you think you're talking to but you sound like a pussy.

    You'll fit in well in the Tug I guess.. with the rest of the Donald dick sucking pussies.

    But if you want to settle this man to man, let me know. 7-11 at Naches.
    How come so many new fish are so obsessed with cocksucking?

    Is Stalin advertising HH on the Glory Hole wall again?
    It's low hanging fruit to trigger your low IQ crowd.
    Admits it. Loves Cock. MBT is a Faggot.

    Almost forgot: NTTAWWIT