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Evidence Shows Dir Gen of WHO Severely Overstated Death Rate of Coronavirus leading to global panic

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  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    80% of people who contract it have mild cold symptoms. Sheeple.

    Probably more than that, given the prevalence of asymptomatic transmission

    Asymptomatic transmission seems to be driving the spread, so a LOT of people are going to get it

    It'll be bad until the feds approve the existing therapeutic drugs that will knock this shit out and turn it into a bad flu season, no need to wait for a vaccine

    Two months tops
    Elaborate?
    Turns out that the protease inhibitor cocktail for HIV shows promise, and Actemra looks like it can prevent the cytokine storm that affects some severe cases. Gilead's Remdesivir is an experimental antiviral that's been getting some use in China. But the most promising are off the shelf antimalarials developed decades ago, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. Cheap, generic, and readily available, they've shown in multiple studies done by the Chinese, French, and Australians that they're effective therapeutically against severe cases and might actually be effective as a preventive. Ramp up production, and give it out like candy when people show up with symptoms and test positive. Very limited side effects, so there's really no reason not to
    Heard Dr. Drew (the love doctor) mention those two just a minute ago https://adamcarolla.com/will-sasso/

    Agree, pass that shit out, let's get back to work.
    While they're cheap and generic, existing stores could be exhausted rather quickly. Chloroquine isn't stockpiled because it's pretty much only been used as an antimalarial, and who needs that anymore since we're not fighting the Japs in New Guinea, but hydroxychloroquine is commonly used to combat rheumatoid arthritis. But put the pharmas on notice to start making this stuff RIGHT NOW. From what I've seen a several-day regimen of hydroxychloroquine costs about $10. Multiply that by 330 million and you've got a $3.3B national bailout which is couch cushion change compared to the numbers we're hearing out of DC. Even if it only knocks out half of the cases it will have been worth it
    BRB, buying 6 cases before the run starts.

    I knew my crippling alcoholism would pay off some day.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    80% of people who contract it have mild cold symptoms. Sheeple.

    Probably more than that, given the prevalence of asymptomatic transmission

    Asymptomatic transmission seems to be driving the spread, so a LOT of people are going to get it

    It'll be bad until the feds approve the existing therapeutic drugs that will knock this shit out and turn it into a bad flu season, no need to wait for a vaccine

    Two months tops
    Elaborate?
    Turns out that the protease inhibitor cocktail for HIV shows promise, and Actemra looks like it can prevent the cytokine storm that affects some severe cases. Gilead's Remdesivir is an experimental antiviral that's been getting some use in China. But the most promising are off the shelf antimalarials developed decades ago, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. Cheap, generic, and readily available, they've shown in multiple studies done by the Chinese, French, and Australians that they're effective therapeutically against severe cases and might actually be effective as a preventive. Ramp up production, and give it out like candy when people show up with symptoms and test positive. Very limited side effects, so there's really no reason not to
    I'm going to stick to my shark fins and pangolin scales. Or is that for virility? Fuck it...why not both?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    80% of people who contract it have mild cold symptoms. Sheeple.

    Probably more than that, given the prevalence of asymptomatic transmission

    Asymptomatic transmission seems to be driving the spread, so a LOT of people are going to get it

    It'll be bad until the feds approve the existing therapeutic drugs that will knock this shit out and turn it into a bad flu season, no need to wait for a vaccine

    Two months tops
    Elaborate?
    Turns out that the protease inhibitor cocktail for HIV shows promise, and Actemra looks like it can prevent the cytokine storm that affects some severe cases. Gilead's Remdesivir is an experimental antiviral that's been getting some use in China. But the most promising are off the shelf antimalarials developed decades ago, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. Cheap, generic, and readily available, they've shown in multiple studies done by the Chinese, French, and Australians that they're effective therapeutically against severe cases and might actually be effective as a preventive. Ramp up production, and give it out like candy when people show up with symptoms and test positive. Very limited side effects, so there's really no reason not to
    Heard Dr. Drew (the love doctor) mention those two just a minute ago https://adamcarolla.com/will-sasso/

    Agree, pass that shit out, let's get back to work.
    We started our latest project last night

    What a great time to roam the freeways of Southern California

    Was at the grocery store this morning. Panic has come to Temecula. Had settle for T bones and a NY strip. No rib steaks. Society has broken down
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,754 Standard Supporter
    Gin and tonic. It's why the British survived.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    80% of people who contract it have mild cold symptoms. Sheeple.

    Probably more than that, given the prevalence of asymptomatic transmission

    Asymptomatic transmission seems to be driving the spread, so a LOT of people are going to get it

    It'll be bad until the feds approve the existing therapeutic drugs that will knock this shit out and turn it into a bad flu season, no need to wait for a vaccine

    Two months tops
    Elaborate?
    Turns out that the protease inhibitor cocktail for HIV shows promise, and Actemra looks like it can prevent the cytokine storm that affects some severe cases. Gilead's Remdesivir is an experimental antiviral that's been getting some use in China. But the most promising are off the shelf antimalarials developed decades ago, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. Cheap, generic, and readily available, they've shown in multiple studies done by the Chinese, French, and Australians that they're effective therapeutically against severe cases and might actually be effective as a preventive. Ramp up production, and give it out like candy when people show up with symptoms and test positive. Very limited side effects, so there's really no reason not to
    Heard Dr. Drew (the love doctor) mention those two just a minute ago https://adamcarolla.com/will-sasso/

    Agree, pass that shit out, let's get back to work.
    We started our latest project last night

    What a great time to roam the freeways of Southern California

    Was at the grocery store this morning. Panic has come to Temecula. Had settle for T bones and a NY strip. No rib steaks. Society has broken down
    Hmmm, they had rib eyes there last night. Maybe I'll go back today and stock up on more steak and briquettes? Nobody had touched the charcoal. What's wrong with everyone? Buy all the TP in the world but no BBQing? I have plenty of wine but I think these days call for more beer drinking. Fuck, if I ony had football to watch, I'd be in heaven!
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    80% of people who contract it have mild cold symptoms. Sheeple.

    Probably more than that, given the prevalence of asymptomatic transmission

    Asymptomatic transmission seems to be driving the spread, so a LOT of people are going to get it

    It'll be bad until the feds approve the existing therapeutic drugs that will knock this shit out and turn it into a bad flu season, no need to wait for a vaccine

    Two months tops
    Elaborate?
    Turns out that the protease inhibitor cocktail for HIV shows promise, and Actemra looks like it can prevent the cytokine storm that affects some severe cases. Gilead's Remdesivir is an experimental antiviral that's been getting some use in China. But the most promising are off the shelf antimalarials developed decades ago, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. Cheap, generic, and readily available, they've shown in multiple studies done by the Chinese, French, and Australians that they're effective therapeutically against severe cases and might actually be effective as a preventive. Ramp up production, and give it out like candy when people show up with symptoms and test positive. Very limited side effects, so there's really no reason not to
    Heard Dr. Drew (the love doctor) mention those two just a minute ago https://adamcarolla.com/will-sasso/

    Agree, pass that shit out, let's get back to work.
    We started our latest project last night

    What a great time to roam the freeways of Southern California

    Was at the grocery store this morning. Panic has come to Temecula. Had settle for T bones and a NY strip. No rib steaks. Society has broken down
    One of the weirdest experiences I've had was during the curfew they imposed because of the LA riots. Freeways looked like the Omega Man, the cool one with Charles Heston not the remake. Made it all the way from Westwood to Malibu in 15 to 20 mins.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    How long before Guido and the boys start hijacking grocery trucks for the TP and water?


  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    SFGbob said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    80% of people who contract it have mild cold symptoms. Sheeple.

    Probably more than that, given the prevalence of asymptomatic transmission

    Asymptomatic transmission seems to be driving the spread, so a LOT of people are going to get it

    It'll be bad until the feds approve the existing therapeutic drugs that will knock this shit out and turn it into a bad flu season, no need to wait for a vaccine

    Two months tops
    Elaborate?
    Turns out that the protease inhibitor cocktail for HIV shows promise, and Actemra looks like it can prevent the cytokine storm that affects some severe cases. Gilead's Remdesivir is an experimental antiviral that's been getting some use in China. But the most promising are off the shelf antimalarials developed decades ago, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. Cheap, generic, and readily available, they've shown in multiple studies done by the Chinese, French, and Australians that they're effective therapeutically against severe cases and might actually be effective as a preventive. Ramp up production, and give it out like candy when people show up with symptoms and test positive. Very limited side effects, so there's really no reason not to
    Heard Dr. Drew (the love doctor) mention those two just a minute ago https://adamcarolla.com/will-sasso/

    Agree, pass that shit out, let's get back to work.
    We started our latest project last night

    What a great time to roam the freeways of Southern California

    Was at the grocery store this morning. Panic has come to Temecula. Had settle for T bones and a NY strip. No rib steaks. Society has broken down
    One of the weirdest experiences I've had was during the curfew they imposed because of the LA riots. Freeways looked like the Omega Man, the cool one with Charles Heston not the remake. Made it all the way from Westwood to Malibu in 15 to 20 mins.
    Chuck boning the black chick was cinema history.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    80% of people who contract it have mild cold symptoms. Sheeple.

    Probably more than that, given the prevalence of asymptomatic transmission

    Asymptomatic transmission seems to be driving the spread, so a LOT of people are going to get it

    It'll be bad until the feds approve the existing therapeutic drugs that will knock this shit out and turn it into a bad flu season, no need to wait for a vaccine

    Two months tops
    Elaborate?
    Turns out that the protease inhibitor cocktail for HIV shows promise, and Actemra looks like it can prevent the cytokine storm that affects some severe cases. Gilead's Remdesivir is an experimental antiviral that's been getting some use in China. But the most promising are off the shelf antimalarials developed decades ago, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. Cheap, generic, and readily available, they've shown in multiple studies done by the Chinese, French, and Australians that they're effective therapeutically against severe cases and might actually be effective as a preventive. Ramp up production, and give it out like candy when people show up with symptoms and test positive. Very limited side effects, so there's really no reason not to
    Heard Dr. Drew (the love doctor) mention those two just a minute ago https://adamcarolla.com/will-sasso/

    Agree, pass that shit out, let's get back to work.
    We started our latest project last night

    What a great time to roam the freeways of Southern California

    Was at the grocery store this morning. Panic has come to Temecula. Had settle for T bones and a NY strip. No rib steaks. Society has broken down
    One of the weirdest experiences I've had was during the curfew they imposed because of the LA riots. Freeways looked like the Omega Man, the cool one with Charles Heston not the remake. Made it all the way from Westwood to Malibu in 15 to 20 mins.
    Chuck boning the black chick was cinema history.
    Watched that movie about 5 years ago, it hasn't aged well but it was the 10 year old GBob's favorite movie.
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072
    FWIW an addition to the list, a flu vaccine that also seems to work preventively and on milder cases but not so well on more severe cases. Developed in 2014, so a known quantity at this poont

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/japanese-flu-drug-clearly-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-says-china
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    BearsWiin said:

    FWIW an addition to the list, a flu vaccine that also seems to work preventively and on milder cases but not so well on more severe cases. Developed in 2014, so a known quantity at this poont

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/japanese-flu-drug-clearly-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-says-china

    Bill Gates just did a Q&A that repeated a lot of the stuff you've said here:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fksnbf/im_bill_gates_cochair_of_the_bill_melinda_gates/
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,090 Founders Club
    For the record antimalarial drugs do have one interesting side effect, night terrors. Definitely had the most vivid nightmares of my life while on them living in India.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    For the record antimalarial drugs do have one interesting side effect, night terrors. Definitely had the most vivid nightmares of my life while on them living in India.

    But were they coVIVid?
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    For the record antimalarial drugs do have one interesting side effect, night terrors. Definitely had the most vivid nightmares of my life while on them living in India.

    So does a bowl of honey nut cheerios at 1:00 AM.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    DJDuck said:

    GDS said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    In Europe they are now upto 700 deaths per day. That rate is continuing to increase as icus fill up and doctors are having to treat patients in triage tents. Hopefully the draconian measures taken here can lower the rate in the US.
    Panic

    Actually with all due respect Scott that’s Bull

    “As of March 17, 2020, there have been 2,764 deaths in Europe overall due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) since the first recorded European death in France on February 15. The vast majority of deaths have occurred in Italy at 2,158. March 16 was the virus' deadliest day so far in Europe with 593 deaths recorded in 13 different European countries.”

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102288/coronavirus-deaths-development-europe/
    Not bull at all. Yesterday was 593. Today it’s over 700 through 18:00 gmt.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    As you point out the rate is increasing. Bigly.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    DJDuck said:

    GDS said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    In Europe they are now upto 700 deaths per day. That rate is continuing to increase as icus fill up and doctors are having to treat patients in triage tents. Hopefully the draconian measures taken here can lower the rate in the US.
    Panic

    Actually with all due respect Scott that’s Bull

    “As of March 17, 2020, there have been 2,764 deaths in Europe overall due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) since the first recorded European death in France on February 15. The vast majority of deaths have occurred in Italy at 2,158. March 16 was the virus' deadliest day so far in Europe with 593 deaths recorded in 13 different European countries.”

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102288/coronavirus-deaths-development-europe/
    Not bull at all. Yesterday was 593. Today it’s over 700 through 18:00 gmt.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    As you point out the rate is increasing. Bigly.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    DJDuck said:

    GDS said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    In Europe they are now upto 700 deaths per day. That rate is continuing to increase as icus fill up and doctors are having to treat patients in triage tents. Hopefully the draconian measures taken here can lower the rate in the US.
    Panic

    Actually with all due respect Scott that’s Bull

    “As of March 17, 2020, there have been 2,764 deaths in Europe overall due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) since the first recorded European death in France on February 15. The vast majority of deaths have occurred in Italy at 2,158. March 16 was the virus' deadliest day so far in Europe with 593 deaths recorded in 13 different European countries.”

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102288/coronavirus-deaths-development-europe/
    And today it’s over 700 as of 18:00 GMT.

    As you point out the rate is increasing. Bigly.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    DJDuck said:

    GDS said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    In Europe they are now upto 700 deaths per day. That rate is continuing to increase as icus fill up and doctors are having to treat patients in triage tents. Hopefully the draconian measures taken here can lower the rate in the US.
    Panic

    Actually with all due respect Scott that’s Bull

    “As of March 17, 2020, there have been 2,764 deaths in Europe overall due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) since the first recorded European death in France on February 15. The vast majority of deaths have occurred in Italy at 2,158. March 16 was the virus' deadliest day so far in Europe with 593 deaths recorded in 13 different European countries.”

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102288/coronavirus-deaths-development-europe/
    Not bull at all. Yesterday was 593. Today it’s over 700 through 18:00 gmt.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    As you point out the rate is increasing. Bigly.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    DJDuck said:

    GDS said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    In Europe they are now upto 700 deaths per day. That rate is continuing to increase as icus fill up and doctors are having to treat patients in triage tents. Hopefully the draconian measures taken here can lower the rate in the US.
    Panic

    Actually with all due respect Scott that’s Bull

    “As of March 17, 2020, there have been 2,764 deaths in Europe overall due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) since the first recorded European death in France on February 15. The vast majority of deaths have occurred in Italy at 2,158. March 16 was the virus' deadliest day so far in Europe with 593 deaths recorded in 13 different European countries.”

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102288/coronavirus-deaths-development-europe/
    Not bull at all. Yesterday was 593. Today it’s over 700 through 18:00 gmt.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    As you point out the rate is increasing. Bigly.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    DJDuck said:

    GDS said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    In Europe they are now upto 700 deaths per day. That rate is continuing to increase as icus fill up and doctors are having to treat patients in triage tents. Hopefully the draconian measures taken here can lower the rate in the US.
    Panic

    Actually with all due respect Scott that’s Bull

    “As of March 17, 2020, there have been 2,764 deaths in Europe overall due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) since the first recorded European death in France on February 15. The vast majority of deaths have occurred in Italy at 2,158. March 16 was the virus' deadliest day so far in Europe with 593 deaths recorded in 13 different European countries.”

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102288/coronavirus-deaths-development-europe/
    And today it’s over 700 as of 18:00 GMT.

    As you point out the rate is increasing. Bigly.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,009 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    Always funny checking out all the horrible takes early on when you are two months into a global pandemic with bodies stacked like cord wood in the streets.

    Yep. Scotti is getting his affairs in order. The end is near.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    80% of people who contract it have mild cold symptoms. Sheeple.

    Probably more than that, given the prevalence of asymptomatic transmission

    Asymptomatic transmission seems to be driving the spread, so a LOT of people are going to get it

    It'll be bad until the feds approve the existing therapeutic drugs that will knock this shit out and turn it into a bad flu season, no need to wait for a vaccine

    Two months tops
    Elaborate?
    Turns out that the protease inhibitor cocktail for HIV shows promise, and Actemra looks like it can prevent the cytokine storm that affects some severe cases. Gilead's Remdesivir is an experimental antiviral that's been getting some use in China. But the most promising are off the shelf antimalarials developed decades ago, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. Cheap, generic, and readily available, they've shown in multiple studies done by the Chinese, French, and Australians that they're effective therapeutically against severe cases and might actually be effective as a preventive. Ramp up production, and give it out like candy when people show up with symptoms and test positive. Very limited side effects, so there's really no reason not to
    Heard Dr. Drew (the love doctor) mention those two just a minute ago https://adamcarolla.com/will-sasso/

    Agree, pass that shit out, let's get back to work.
    While they're cheap and generic, existing stores could be exhausted rather quickly. Chloroquine isn't stockpiled because it's pretty much only been used as an antimalarial, and who needs that anymore since we're not fighting the Japs in New Guinea, but hydroxychloroquine is commonly used to combat rheumatoid arthritis. But put the pharmas on notice to start making this stuff RIGHT NOW. From what I've seen a several-day regimen of hydroxychloroquine costs about $10. Multiply that by 330 million and you've got a $3.3B national bailout which is couch cushion change compared to the numbers we're hearing out of DC. Even if it only knocks out half of the cases it will have been worth it
    Guessing BoorsWiin wouldn't like this take now.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,226 Standard Supporter

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
    The flu rarely causes diarrhea. Especially in adults. Thats one of the great myths that won't die. The flu is a respiratory disease. But decades of moms saying their kid who is throwing up with diarrhea had the "flu" or even worse "a touch of the flu" or the "24 hour flu" has left millions not knowing what the flu is. Especially since people won't get flu shots and say "I got the shotonce and got the flu anyway" when in fact the had food poisoning or something like the Norovirus.

    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/what-is-flu
    This is all pretty accurate
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    edited May 2020
    Swaye said:

    Always funny checking out all the horrible takes early on when you are two months into a global pandemic with bodies stacked like cord wood in the streets.

    Do you find the dead bodies stacked like cord wood light with some kindling or are you using some type of accelerant like lighter fluid or kerosene?

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    Covid won the off season natty. Let's see if it can FINISH

    bump
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    MelloDawg said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    This. Going to a heavily right leaning website to get your sociological and epidemiological input for a pandemic that has been highly politicized could not be a better example of looking for confirmation bias.
    Yeah. Better stick with CNN.
    bump
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    MelloDawg said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
    The flu rarely causes diarrhea. Especially in adults. Thats one of the great myths that won't die. The flu is a respiratory disease. But decades of moms saying their kid who is throwing up with diarrhea had the "flu" or even worse "a touch of the flu" or the "24 hour flu" has left millions not knowing what the flu is. Especially since people won't get flu shots and say "I got the shotonce and got the flu anyway" when in fact the had food poisoning or something like the Norovirus.

    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/what-is-flu
    Fair enough.

    Perception is reality though. People hear "it's the flu" and went and bought TP to prepare for that which they will not face.
    No. Facts are reality. Misinformation and failure to grasp facts leads to panic, fear and irrational behavior that harms people.

    The reality is people are hoarding TP the are uneducated emotional sheep who get lead are on drugs by the nose. That's the fact.

    But if they are that uneducated and prone to groupthink as you say, they were going to do that regardless of the information they're getting or its source. The problem is that now regular folks such as you and I (but more me because I'm more regular) are now the ones going to get TP because we might need it down the road after all the crazies keep buying it. The same goes for chicken.
    So we've reestablished people are dumb, emotional and easily manipulated.
    bump
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,754 Standard Supporter
    This whole thing is a scam. A farce. Manufactured emergency. It's about control. Look up the new airline screening process proposals. It's gonna get fun!
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    This whole thing is a scam. A farce. Manufactured emergency. It's about control. Look up the new airline screening process proposals. It's gonna get fun!

    Fuck the government and all people who love it!