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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,257
    Look around at what is happening ... full quarantine is happening this week

    Inslee and the other governor’s aren’t shutting things down without knowing it is coming

    Vegas also isn’t shutting shit down unless they have to
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,380
    USMChawk said:

    Has anyone else heard this rumor from friends who supposedly have contact with military personnel that the Pres. is going to invoke the Stafford Act to quarantine the entire country for some period of time?

    Any legs to this thing?

    The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the military against the populace, which would have to be done to enforce a quarantine. The National Guard has special exceptions that allow some limited enforcement. I’m not a lawyer so I’m sure I’m missing something.
    I'm only hearing this from people who allegedly hear from their friends who are in the military and are supposedly being briefed.

    No idea myself.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,380
    edited March 2020
    Postal91 said:

    Has anyone else heard this rumor from friends who supposedly have contact with military personnel that the Pres. is going to invoke the Stafford Act to quarantine the entire country for some period of time?

    Any legs to this thing?

    Sounds like that was some major fake news. He would play right into the hands of the nanny-state loving democrats. We are already well beyond any point we should have been and the democrats are circle jerking the fuck out of each other to see who can outdo the other with lock downs.
    Yeah, the question wasn't meant to generate yet another fake news, rats, conspiracy deep state thread. At this point, if Krisvashon herself had the right answer to this problem, I'd be all ears.

    For now, I just want to get some intel, if there's any to be gotten, on what might be coming. I want to get a sense if there's any real possibility of me having to do something uncomfortable to deal with my kids 3,000 miles away from here. The politics is a secondary issue at this point, unless you or someone can show me that this is all a liberal hoax.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,380
    USMChawk said:

    Has anyone else heard this rumor from friends who supposedly have contact with military personnel that the Pres. is going to invoke the Stafford Act to quarantine the entire country for some period of time?

    Any legs to this thing?

    The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the military against the populace, which would have to be done to enforce a quarantine. The National Guard has special exceptions that allow some limited enforcement. I’m not a lawyer so I’m sure I’m missing something.
    National Guard is what has been deployed in New Rochelle NY. I don't know to what extent they are 'regulating' things, but I know they've been deployed.

    Fucking bats. JFC.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club

    Has anyone else heard this rumor from friends who supposedly have contact with military personnel that the Pres. is going to invoke the Stafford Act to quarantine the entire country for some period of time?

    Any legs to this thing?

    I don't know on what legal basis, but I have heard full quarantine. What I heard was so crazy I couldn't believe it. 14 day house bound quarantine; after that 4 weeks only allowed out for 1 hour a day.

    I don't know how they would enforce it as a practical matter.


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  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    USMChawk said:

    Has anyone else heard this rumor from friends who supposedly have contact with military personnel that the Pres. is going to invoke the Stafford Act to quarantine the entire country for some period of time?

    Any legs to this thing?

    The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the military against the populace, which would have to be done to enforce a quarantine. The National Guard has special exceptions that allow some limited enforcement. I’m not a lawyer so I’m sure I’m missing something.
    National Guard is what has been deployed in New Rochelle NY. I don't know to what extent they are 'regulating' things, but I know they've been deployed.

    Fucking bats. JFC.
    They may be, but the National Guard falls under Title 34(32?) restraints and are a hybrid State/Federal force. Purely Federal troops (Army, Navy, Air Force & Marines) fall under Title 10.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,380
    USMChawk said:

    USMChawk said:

    Has anyone else heard this rumor from friends who supposedly have contact with military personnel that the Pres. is going to invoke the Stafford Act to quarantine the entire country for some period of time?

    Any legs to this thing?

    The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the military against the populace, which would have to be done to enforce a quarantine. The National Guard has special exceptions that allow some limited enforcement. I’m not a lawyer so I’m sure I’m missing something.
    National Guard is what has been deployed in New Rochelle NY. I don't know to what extent they are 'regulating' things, but I know they've been deployed.

    Fucking bats. JFC.
    They may be, but the National Guard falls under Title 34(32?) restraints and are a hybrid State/Federal force. Purely Federal troops (Army, Navy, Air Force & Marines) fall under Title 10.
    Yeah, I can tell you if issuing securities to raise capital can be done w/ or w/out registration with the SEC, and if so, how to do it. I can tell you how to effect a reverse triangular merger and draw up the papers. I can't trace the line of authority from the National Guard back to the fed, and I sure can't tell you what the National Guard can and can't do and under what circumstances. I know some Con Law from my days as a judicial law clerk, but that's about it.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club

    USMChawk said:

    Has anyone else heard this rumor from friends who supposedly have contact with military personnel that the Pres. is going to invoke the Stafford Act to quarantine the entire country for some period of time?

    Any legs to this thing?

    The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the military against the populace, which would have to be done to enforce a quarantine. The National Guard has special exceptions that allow some limited enforcement. I’m not a lawyer so I’m sure I’m missing something.
    National Guard is what has been deployed in New Rochelle NY. I don't know to what extent they are 'regulating' things, but I know they've been deployed.

    Fucking bats. JFC.
    One of my childhood best friends is on the team that plans for national disaster response for the National Guard. He's a Lt Col. He told the the response in NY was purely for medical assistance.

    He also denied what i poasted earlier in the thread - as of 2 days ago - claiming they didn't have the legal authority.


    So who fucking knows what to think.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,257
    pawz said:

    USMChawk said:

    Has anyone else heard this rumor from friends who supposedly have contact with military personnel that the Pres. is going to invoke the Stafford Act to quarantine the entire country for some period of time?

    Any legs to this thing?

    The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the military against the populace, which would have to be done to enforce a quarantine. The National Guard has special exceptions that allow some limited enforcement. I’m not a lawyer so I’m sure I’m missing something.
    National Guard is what has been deployed in New Rochelle NY. I don't know to what extent they are 'regulating' things, but I know they've been deployed.

    Fucking bats. JFC.
    One of my childhood best friends is on the team that plans for national disaster response for the National Guard. He's a Lt Col. He told the the response in NY was purely for medical assistance.

    He also denied what i poasted earlier in the thread - as of 2 days ago - claiming they didn't have the legal authority.


    So who fucking knows what to think.
    All the signs point to shit hitting the fan

    Let’s be honest that when things are about to happen it’s often met by denials and avoiding responses
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    pawz said:

    USMChawk said:

    Has anyone else heard this rumor from friends who supposedly have contact with military personnel that the Pres. is going to invoke the Stafford Act to quarantine the entire country for some period of time?

    Any legs to this thing?

    The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the military against the populace, which would have to be done to enforce a quarantine. The National Guard has special exceptions that allow some limited enforcement. I’m not a lawyer so I’m sure I’m missing something.
    National Guard is what has been deployed in New Rochelle NY. I don't know to what extent they are 'regulating' things, but I know they've been deployed.

    Fucking bats. JFC.
    One of my childhood best friends is on the team that plans for national disaster response for the National Guard. He's a Lt Col. He told the the response in NY was purely for medical assistance.

    He also denied what i poasted earlier in the thread - as of 2 days ago - claiming they didn't have the legal authority.


    So who fucking knows what to think.
    All the signs point to shit hitting the fan

    Let’s be honest that when things are about to happen it’s often met by denials and avoiding responses
    He is also subject to non-disclosure of classified information.

    FMFYFE