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Jabez Tinae, 2021 4* WR, Burien (Kennedy Catholic), WA (Committed)

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  • proof
    proof Member Posts: 278
    Thought he was the potential odd man out, but it makes sense with how hard the staff has been pushing for in-state players to stay.
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    proof said:

    Thought he was the potential odd man out, but it makes sense with how hard the staff has been pushing for in-state players to stay.

    Yep. Could be a momentum offer to start getting the in-state kids on board, similar to the way Tafisi and Mosiah Liu (RIP) were for the poly movement
  • proof
    proof Member Posts: 278
    edited February 2020
    NEsnake12 said:

    proof said:

    Thought he was the potential odd man out, but it makes sense with how hard the staff has been pushing for in-state players to stay.

    Yep. Could be a momentum offer to start getting the in-state kids on board, similar to the way Tafisi and Mosiah Liu (RIP) were for the poly movement
    With this offer 8/10 of the top players in WA have been offered. Other two are Josh McCarron (Please Offer) and Clay Millen.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    proof said:

    Thought he was the potential odd man out, but it makes sense with how hard the staff has been pushing for in-state players to stay.

    This should tel you how confident the staff is in getting Franklin
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited February 2020
    proof said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    proof said:

    Thought he was the potential odd man out, but it makes sense with how hard the staff has been pushing for in-state players to stay.

    Yep. Could be a momentum offer to start getting the in-state kids on board, similar to the way Tafisi and Mosiah Liu (RIP) were for the poly movement
    With this offer 8/10 of the top players in WA have been offered. Other two are Josh McCarron (Please Offer) and Clay Millen.
    I would love it if they could convince Clay Millen as to come in as a grayshirt...even if he assumed baby Huard will succeed then he plays as a freshman and leaves early which gives Clay a 2 year starting window if he wins the job afterwards.

    And if his brother gets stuck behind Tyler Shough and as an "or" to Butterfield I don't think Oregon will look that attractive to him.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    edited February 2020

    Interesting timing to offer Jabez. We only graduate one WR next year (Chin), although a couch sale or two is likely. So taking more than 3 WRs would be weird. But of course Emeka and Franklin are takes no matter what, and it sounds like both will be waiting awhile to commit. And they're both too good to be pressured to commit to save their 'spot'.

    Theoretically we view Junior > Jabez since we offered him first. Do we take the commit of one of them? Both? Is Jimmy going to more liberal with non-commitable offers to in-state kids?

    I guess it doesn't matter because if Emeka and Franklin want to commit you don't really worry about numbers, and it seems unlikely we get both. Might as well get the in-state kids in the class early. Especially since the California WR class doesn't seem all that great outside of Franklin and Beaux Collins, pretty rare to only have offered two California WRs at this point.

    Fuck it, I guess I've talked myself into it. I don't like either as much as any of the WRs we took in '20, but it could just be a down year. And there's value in getting Sam's teammates and loading up on in-state kids.

    There will be a couch sale or two before this season even begins. Ty Jones, Osborne, Spiker, Chin... Very possible only 1 or 2 stay. Taj Davis is young but if he’s like the 8th WR, he’s another that could go. Attrition is happening with that group.

    I agree that both Kennedy kids are underwhelming. Would be interesting if they would get offers if they didn’t play for Huard and a team that hucks the ball around. Both without Franklin and/or Egbuka would be really shitty.
  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028

    Interesting timing to offer Jabez. We only graduate one WR next year (Chin), although a couch sale or two is likely. So taking more than 3 WRs would be weird. But of course Emeka and Franklin are takes no matter what, and it sounds like both will be waiting awhile to commit. And they're both too good to be pressured to commit to save their 'spot'.

    Theoretically we view Junior > Jabez since we offered him first. Do we take the commit of one of them? Both? Is Jimmy going to more liberal with non-commitable offers to in-state kids?

    I guess it doesn't matter because if Emeka and Franklin want to commit you don't really worry about numbers, and it seems unlikely we get both. Might as well get the in-state kids in the class early. Especially since the California WR class doesn't seem all that great outside of Franklin and Beaux Collins, pretty rare to only have offered two California WRs at this point.

    Fuck it, I guess I've talked myself into it. I don't like either as much as any of the WRs we took in '20, but it could just be a down year. And there's value in getting Sam's teammates and loading up on in-state kids.

    There will be a couch sale or two before this season even begins. Ty Jones, Osborne, Spiker, Chin... Very possible only 1 or 2 stay. Taj Davis is young but if he’s like the 8th WR, he’s another that could go. Attrition is happening with that group.

    I agree that both Kennedy kids are underwhelming. Would be interesting if they would get offers if they didn’t play for Huard and a team that hucks the ball around. Both without Franklin and/or Egbuka would be really shitty.
    You're saying 4 WR might sell couches. That is full on anti-doog. That being said, please bump this when it happens.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Interesting timing to offer Jabez. We only graduate one WR next year (Chin), although a couch sale or two is likely. So taking more than 3 WRs would be weird. But of course Emeka and Franklin are takes no matter what, and it sounds like both will be waiting awhile to commit. And they're both too good to be pressured to commit to save their 'spot'.

    Theoretically we view Junior > Jabez since we offered him first. Do we take the commit of one of them? Both? Is Jimmy going to more liberal with non-commitable offers to in-state kids?

    I guess it doesn't matter because if Emeka and Franklin want to commit you don't really worry about numbers, and it seems unlikely we get both. Might as well get the in-state kids in the class early. Especially since the California WR class doesn't seem all that great outside of Franklin and Beaux Collins, pretty rare to only have offered two California WRs at this point.

    Fuck it, I guess I've talked myself into it. I don't like either as much as any of the WRs we took in '20, but it could just be a down year. And there's value in getting Sam's teammates and loading up on in-state kids.

    There will be a couch sale or two before this season even begins. Ty Jones, Osborne, Spiker, Chin... Very possible only 1 or 2 stay. Taj Davis is young but if he’s like the 8th WR, he’s another that could go. Attrition is happening with that group.

    I agree that both Kennedy kids are underwhelming. Would be interesting if they would get offers if they didn’t play for Huard and a team that hucks the ball around. Both without Franklin and/or Egbuka would be really shitty.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Jones or Chin moved on ... I think there is a path to playing time for both Osborne and Spiker
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,193 Standard Supporter

    Interesting timing to offer Jabez. We only graduate one WR next year (Chin), although a couch sale or two is likely. So taking more than 3 WRs would be weird. But of course Emeka and Franklin are takes no matter what, and it sounds like both will be waiting awhile to commit. And they're both too good to be pressured to commit to save their 'spot'.

    Theoretically we view Junior > Jabez since we offered him first. Do we take the commit of one of them? Both? Is Jimmy going to more liberal with non-commitable offers to in-state kids?

    I guess it doesn't matter because if Emeka and Franklin want to commit you don't really worry about numbers, and it seems unlikely we get both. Might as well get the in-state kids in the class early. Especially since the California WR class doesn't seem all that great outside of Franklin and Beaux Collins, pretty rare to only have offered two California WRs at this point.

    Fuck it, I guess I've talked myself into it. I don't like either as much as any of the WRs we took in '20, but it could just be a down year. And there's value in getting Sam's teammates and loading up on in-state kids.

    There will be a couch sale or two before this season even begins. Ty Jones, Osborne, Spiker, Chin... Very possible only 1 or 2 stay. Taj Davis is young but if he’s like the 8th WR, he’s another that could go. Attrition is happening with that group.

    I agree that both Kennedy kids are underwhelming. Would be interesting if they would get offers if they didn’t play for Huard and a team that hucks the ball around. Both without Franklin and/or Egbuka would be really shitty.
    Spiker was getting solid reps at the end of the year. I think if Chin or Jones were going to portal they would've already done so by now. Chin probably recognizes he has zero shot at a professional career and might just enjoy being at UW. Same with Jones (who I wish would portal). I could see Osborne taking off if he's buried on the depth chart after spring ball.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    I can imagine Lake will change the culture somewhat so that Pete's archaic rules of rolling out playing time so you eventually see the field your Jr and Sr years will be replaced by giving fresh legs the opportunity to fight for the ball early.... guys who display in-game ability will keep playing; those who don't (or only show up in practice) will not. Given so few of the WR depth chart has had a chance to play for realz I don't know what to expect (beyond Puka and Bynum, of course).
  • TommySQC
    TommySQC Member Posts: 5,813
    Meek said:

    I can imagine Lake will change the culture somewhat so that Pete's archaic rules of rolling out playing time so you eventually see the field your Jr and Sr years will be replaced by giving fresh legs the opportunity to fight for the ball early.... guys who display in-game ability will keep playing; those who don't (or only show up in practice) will not. Given so few of the WR depth chart has had a chance to play for realz I don't know what to expect (beyond Puka and Bynum, of course).

    What's odd is that the DL has always had a rotation that played young guys since Pete has been here. I still maintain this philosphy belongs to the position coaches. Ultimately, Pete should have stepped in and forced their hands but Pete is a process guy and lets his coaches do their jobs.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Tequilla said:

    Interesting timing to offer Jabez. We only graduate one WR next year (Chin), although a couch sale or two is likely. So taking more than 3 WRs would be weird. But of course Emeka and Franklin are takes no matter what, and it sounds like both will be waiting awhile to commit. And they're both too good to be pressured to commit to save their 'spot'.

    Theoretically we view Junior > Jabez since we offered him first. Do we take the commit of one of them? Both? Is Jimmy going to more liberal with non-commitable offers to in-state kids?

    I guess it doesn't matter because if Emeka and Franklin want to commit you don't really worry about numbers, and it seems unlikely we get both. Might as well get the in-state kids in the class early. Especially since the California WR class doesn't seem all that great outside of Franklin and Beaux Collins, pretty rare to only have offered two California WRs at this point.

    Fuck it, I guess I've talked myself into it. I don't like either as much as any of the WRs we took in '20, but it could just be a down year. And there's value in getting Sam's teammates and loading up on in-state kids.

    There will be a couch sale or two before this season even begins. Ty Jones, Osborne, Spiker, Chin... Very possible only 1 or 2 stay. Taj Davis is young but if he’s like the 8th WR, he’s another that could go. Attrition is happening with that group.

    I agree that both Kennedy kids are underwhelming. Would be interesting if they would get offers if they didn’t play for Huard and a team that hucks the ball around. Both without Franklin and/or Egbuka would be really shitty.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Jones or Chin moved on ... I think there is a path to playing time for both Osborne and Spiker
    Tequilla said:

    Interesting timing to offer Jabez. We only graduate one WR next year (Chin), although a couch sale or two is likely. So taking more than 3 WRs would be weird. But of course Emeka and Franklin are takes no matter what, and it sounds like both will be waiting awhile to commit. And they're both too good to be pressured to commit to save their 'spot'.

    Theoretically we view Junior > Jabez since we offered him first. Do we take the commit of one of them? Both? Is Jimmy going to more liberal with non-commitable offers to in-state kids?

    I guess it doesn't matter because if Emeka and Franklin want to commit you don't really worry about numbers, and it seems unlikely we get both. Might as well get the in-state kids in the class early. Especially since the California WR class doesn't seem all that great outside of Franklin and Beaux Collins, pretty rare to only have offered two California WRs at this point.

    Fuck it, I guess I've talked myself into it. I don't like either as much as any of the WRs we took in '20, but it could just be a down year. And there's value in getting Sam's teammates and loading up on in-state kids.

    There will be a couch sale or two before this season even begins. Ty Jones, Osborne, Spiker, Chin... Very possible only 1 or 2 stay. Taj Davis is young but if he’s like the 8th WR, he’s another that could go. Attrition is happening with that group.

    I agree that both Kennedy kids are underwhelming. Would be interesting if they would get offers if they didn’t play for Huard and a team that hucks the ball around. Both without Franklin and/or Egbuka would be really shitty.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Jones or Chin moved on ... I think there is a path to playing time for both Osborne and Spiker
    I don’t think all of those guys will transfer but at least 1, and probably more likely 2 or 3 will.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    I could see Chin transfer to somewhere where he can get some snaps ... not sure where he is at from a graduating standpoint

    I wouldn’t be shocked if Jones walked as a senior this year ... I’ve heard some things that suggest he is playing more school than football (nothing wrong with that per se)

    The depth chart will be wide open now that we’ve hopefully moved on from the seniority BS
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam
    Both of the Kennedy WR look really good to me. Tinae in particular is really good after the catch. His hands look good, he's a legit slot guy who can make big plays out of quick slants and screens but he's not a fly weight midget.

    UW WR depth, aside from the incoming guys and Nacua, lacks guys who are threats with the ball in their hands. I'd consider Tinae a take even if he's the 4th WR in a class where we may not need four.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    Both of the Kennedy WR look really good to me. Tinae in particular is really good after the catch. His hands look good, he's a legit slot guy who can make big plays out of quick slants and screens but he's not a fly weight midget.

    UW WR depth, aside from the incoming guys and Nacua, lacks guys who are threats with the ball in their hands. I'd consider Tinae a take even if he's the 4th WR in a class where we may not need four.

    You’re normally good at this, so I will take your word. I still think you’re off on Sunday tho. He’s going to be a beast RB for us if he makes it here.
    Not sure I agree with the bolded statement, but I do appreciate it. I have a lot of opinions so some turn out right.

    Sunday has some good traits for sure. He can be good if he sticks to what he's built for which is ramming that brick like frame into tacklers.
  • halfbrainmanmolder
    halfbrainmanmolder Member Posts: 215
    Tequilla said:

    I could see Chin transfer to somewhere where he can get some snaps ... not sure where he is at from a graduating standpoint

    I wouldn’t be shocked if Jones walked as a senior this year ... I’ve heard some things that suggest he is playing more school than football (nothing wrong with that per se)

    The depth chart will be wide open now that we’ve hopefully moved on from the seniority BS

    What seniority bullshit are you talking about? Apart from the obvious misuse of WRs (opera singer in particular), there is absolutely no consistent pattern in not playing talented youngsters because of seniority. Even last year at WR position, Puka played as a true freshman. People spew nonsense without thinking or looking at the evidence. You might blame Pete for the offensive scheme which prevented young guys to excel early, but there was ZERO evidence that Pete makes personnel decision (other than QB of course) in position groups.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited February 2020
    Chin stays because he has given us chincredible
  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    I feel like while Alexander might have slightly higher potential, he’s more in line with receivers we’ve gotten in recent cycles and is a step behind them. Tinae has a different skill set that would make that room a little more diverse.
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245

    Solid rant but didn’t Puka get hurt? Blacked out most of the season but I thought I remembered that.

    Thank you. I try for hardcore husky.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    I could see Chin transfer to somewhere where he can get some snaps ... not sure where he is at from a graduating standpoint

    I wouldn’t be shocked if Jones walked as a senior this year ... I’ve heard some things that suggest he is playing more school than football (nothing wrong with that per se)

    The depth chart will be wide open now that we’ve hopefully moved on from the seniority BS

    What seniority bullshit are you talking about? Apart from the obvious misuse of WRs (opera singer in particular), there is absolutely no consistent pattern in not playing talented youngsters because of seniority. Even last year at WR position, Puka played as a true freshman. People spew nonsense without thinking or looking at the evidence. You might blame Pete for the offensive scheme which prevented young guys to excel early, but there was ZERO evidence that Pete makes personnel decision (other than QB of course) in position groups.
    If you can't tell that the Seniors got a massive leash at the WR position last year for whatever reason, I can't help you.

    I have also had that opinion more or less confirmed in different conversations in different circles from people that may know a thing or two about the subject
  • halfbrainmanmolder
    halfbrainmanmolder Member Posts: 215
    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    I could see Chin transfer to somewhere where he can get some snaps ... not sure where he is at from a graduating standpoint

    I wouldn’t be shocked if Jones walked as a senior this year ... I’ve heard some things that suggest he is playing more school than football (nothing wrong with that per se)

    The depth chart will be wide open now that we’ve hopefully moved on from the seniority BS

    What seniority bullshit are you talking about? Apart from the obvious misuse of WRs (opera singer in particular), there is absolutely no consistent pattern in not playing talented youngsters because of seniority. Even last year at WR position, Puka played as a true freshman. People spew nonsense without thinking or looking at the evidence. You might blame Pete for the offensive scheme which prevented young guys to excel early, but there was ZERO evidence that Pete makes personnel decision (other than QB of course) in position groups.
    You mean like Puku going in for one play ... getting a touchdown and notifying the football world that he's going to be a problem ... and then disappearing for almost the rest of the season?

    That Puka?

    all the while opera singer gets targeted 300x a game:

    - can't break tackles
    - can't get open
    - can't run routes without being swallowed up
    - when he fucks up, smiles like he's playing a video game and is not taking life seriously ...

    dude, I think you haven't been paying attention.

    "no consistent pattern"?

    That's fucking it.

    No consistent pattern of good decision making or playcalling from bushyballs, if you remember, was the fucking OC ...

    same with Peterman, if you remember, was the fucking Head Coach! Isn't he the fucking CEO? If shit is going down badly ... see Stanford game etc ...shouldn't he step in a get positive shit done!? Yeah, that guy.

    The same guy from the sidelines seeing Opera Singer fuck it up over and over again. The same guy who saw Puka do a kick ass play once never to be seen again until late in the season when even the special needs kids from the local YMCA were screaming at the television to get fucking Opera out of the game and play the young talent ...

    Jesus Christ.
    Are we talking about the same shit? I can see you are pissed by the CONSISTENT misuse of WRs last season and SO WAS I as I though my post made it abundantly clear.

    But it should be clear that I was talking about "seniority bullshit" -- that Peterman consistently plays seniors over young guys, that was what the original post was talking about unless you are talking about Peterman only does this to WRs (but even there Puka, Aaron Fullwer all played as freshmen): Brownsox played as starting QR as a freshman ever in UW history, Nick Harris, Trey Adams started as true freshmen on offensive line, Myles Gaskin etc. Then there is the defensive side I don't think I even need to bother to list names. But all this is pointless because I believe Peter's words that he was not involved much in game day selection of positional groups over your fucking stupid baseless opinion that somehow he decided Puka play one series and then sit down the next. How the fuck you think Peterman has that kind of capacity to do this to each position group is beyond me.

    But obviously I am wasting my time trying to argue with you seeing that you don't have any fucking logical sense, blast away since that's the only thing your little brain is good at.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    I could see Chin transfer to somewhere where he can get some snaps ... not sure where he is at from a graduating standpoint

    I wouldn’t be shocked if Jones walked as a senior this year ... I’ve heard some things that suggest he is playing more school than football (nothing wrong with that per se)

    The depth chart will be wide open now that we’ve hopefully moved on from the seniority BS

    What seniority bullshit are you talking about? Apart from the obvious misuse of WRs (opera singer in particular), there is absolutely no consistent pattern in not playing talented youngsters because of seniority. Even last year at WR position, Puka played as a true freshman. People spew nonsense without thinking or looking at the evidence. You might blame Pete for the offensive scheme which prevented young guys to excel early, but there was ZERO evidence that Pete makes personnel decision (other than QB of course) in position groups.
    You mean like Puku going in for one play ... getting a touchdown and notifying the football world that he's going to be a problem ... and then disappearing for almost the rest of the season?

    That Puka?

    all the while opera singer gets targeted 300x a game:

    - can't break tackles
    - can't get open
    - can't run routes without being swallowed up
    - when he fucks up, smiles like he's playing a video game and is not taking life seriously ...

    dude, I think you haven't been paying attention.

    "no consistent pattern"?

    That's fucking it.

    No consistent pattern of good decision making or playcalling from bushyballs, if you remember, was the fucking OC ...

    same with Peterman, if you remember, was the fucking Head Coach! Isn't he the fucking CEO? If shit is going down badly ... see Stanford game etc ...shouldn't he step in a get positive shit done!? Yeah, that guy.

    The same guy from the sidelines seeing Opera Singer fuck it up over and over again. The same guy who saw Puka do a kick ass play once never to be seen again until late in the season when even the special needs kids from the local YMCA were screaming at the television to get fucking Opera out of the game and play the young talent ...

    Jesus Christ.
    Are we talking about the same shit? I can see you are pissed by the CONSISTENT misuse of WRs last season and SO WAS I as I though my post made it abundantly clear.

    But it should be clear that I was talking about "seniority bullshit" -- that Peterman consistently plays seniors over young guys, that was what the original post was talking about unless you are talking about Peterman only does this to WRs (but even there Puka, Aaron Fullwer all played as freshmen): Brownsox played as starting QR as a freshman ever in UW history, Nick Harris, Trey Adams started as true freshmen on offensive line, Myles Gaskin etc. Then there is the defensive side I don't think I even need to bother to list names. But all this is pointless because I believe Peter's words that he was not involved much in game day selection of positional groups over your fucking stupid baseless opinion that somehow he decided Puka play one series and then sit down the next. How the fuck you think Peterman has that kind of capacity to do this to each position group is beyond me.

    But obviously I am wasting my time trying to argue with you seeing that you don't have any fucking logical sense, blast away since that's the only thing your little brain is good at.
    I made the young guys playing on offense argument here before. Even used many of the examples you made. It was brought up that Pete played his young guys over Sarks old guys. Once it was a team of Petes guys that trend seemed to slow down to a trickle on the offensive side of the ball. if you look at the last three years this plays out. On defense, best man plays. Offensively its hard to crack the two deeps. Your argument isn't wrong, it's just not entirely correct either.
    That's a really good point and one that I had not considered.
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    Y'know, part of the problem that Peterman had which contributed to his "retirement" so he can re-evaluate his

    animate said:

    Tequilla said:

    I could see Chin transfer to somewhere where he can get some snaps ... not sure where he is at from a graduating standpoint

    I wouldn’t be shocked if Jones walked as a senior this year ... I’ve heard some things that suggest he is playing more school than football (nothing wrong with that per se)

    The depth chart will be wide open now that we’ve hopefully moved on from the seniority BS

    What seniority bullshit are you talking about? Apart from the obvious misuse of WRs (opera singer in particular), there is absolutely no consistent pattern in not playing talented youngsters because of seniority. Even last year at WR position, Puka played as a true freshman. People spew nonsense without thinking or looking at the evidence. You might blame Pete for the offensive scheme which prevented young guys to excel early, but there was ZERO evidence that Pete makes personnel decision (other than QB of course) in position groups.
    You mean like Puku going in for one play ... getting a touchdown and notifying the football world that he's going to be a problem ... and then disappearing for almost the rest of the season?

    That Puka?

    all the while opera singer gets targeted 300x a game:

    - can't break tackles
    - can't get open
    - can't run routes without being swallowed up
    - when he fucks up, smiles like he's playing a video game and is not taking life seriously ...

    dude, I think you haven't been paying attention.

    "no consistent pattern"?

    That's fucking it.

    No consistent pattern of good decision making or playcalling from bushyballs, if you remember, was the fucking OC ...

    same with Peterman, if you remember, was the fucking Head Coach! Isn't he the fucking CEO? If shit is going down badly ... see Stanford game etc ...shouldn't he step in a get positive shit done!? Yeah, that guy.

    The same guy from the sidelines seeing Opera Singer fuck it up over and over again. The same guy who saw Puka do a kick ass play once never to be seen again until late in the season when even the special needs kids from the local YMCA were screaming at the television to get fucking Opera out of the game and play the young talent ...

    Jesus Christ.
    Are we talking about the same shit? I can see you are pissed by the CONSISTENT misuse of WRs last season and SO WAS I as I though my post made it abundantly clear.

    But it should be clear that I was talking about "seniority bullshit" -- that Peterman consistently plays seniors over young guys, that was what the original post was talking about unless you are talking about Peterman only does this to WRs (but even there Puka, Aaron Fullwer all played as freshmen): Brownsox played as starting QR as a freshman ever in UW history, Nick Harris, Trey Adams started as true freshmen on offensive line, Myles Gaskin etc. Then there is the defensive side I don't think I even need to bother to list names. But all this is pointless because I believe Peter's words that he was not involved much in game day selection of positional groups over your fucking stupid baseless opinion that somehow he decided Puka play one series and then sit down the next. How the fuck you think Peterman has that kind of capacity to do this to each position group is beyond me.

    But obviously I am wasting my time trying to argue with you seeing that you don't have any fucking logical sense, blast away since that's the only thing your little brain is good at.
    Yeah! What theknowledge said! Wrap you're little brain around that and chew on it ..... whooooo!