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Leftist hero FDR an anti Semite piece of shit
MikeDamone
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Not only did he prolong the depression, he killed a lot of Jews.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/historian-new-evidence-shows-fdrs-bigotry-derailed-many-holocaust-rescue-plans
https://www.timesofisrael.com/historian-new-evidence-shows-fdrs-bigotry-derailed-many-holocaust-rescue-plans
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That wouldn't have been hard for American academics and historians to ferret out
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And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
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He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression. -
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression. -
Hey, but he got Einstein and then we got the bomb.
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Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
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Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression. -
There's a reason why FDR's recovery from the Depression was as weak and anemic and prolonged as Obama's was from the 2007-2008 meltdown.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression. -
FDR was Kenyan?!?SFGbob said:
There's a reason why FDR's recovery from the Depression was as weak and anemic and prolonged as Obama's was from the 2007-2008 meltdown.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression. -
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression. -
Muslim.PurpleThrobber said:
FDR was Kenyan?!?SFGbob said:
There's a reason why FDR's recovery from the Depression was as weak and anemic and prolonged as Obama's was from the 2007-2008 meltdown.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression. -
Superficial and silly. Like Mike himself.
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His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR. -
People forget Truman dropped the atomic bombs. People forget that.SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR. -
His DOING SOMETHING didn't help. That's my point. Doing something is nice expect when it has the opposite affect and is worse that DOING NOTHINGYellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression. -
Maybe we should judge Trump on what's happening
It's a lot better than the economy under FDR -
It can also be said that the shit that he did get done in the 1930's ended WWII a few years earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. You know what 3 things it takes a shit ton of juice to make, right, and what the only country on Earth was in 1939 to have a huge surplus supply of said juice?SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR.
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Trump should be judge on what might happen, not what's actually happening.RaceBannon said:Maybe we should judge Trump on what's happening
It's a lot better than the economy under FDR -
The two really big bodies of water on either side of the continental US kind of made that only country with huge juice status possible.YellowSnow said:
It can also be said that the shit that he did get done in the 1930's ended WWII a few years earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. You know what 3 things it takes a shit ton of juice to make, right, and what the only country on Earth was in 1939 to have a huge surplus supply of said juice?SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR.
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And he got the dams built on both of them as part of the DO SOMETHING agenda. W/o those dams no easy refinement of aluminum for airplanes and no uranium and plutonium for the bombs.PurpleThrobber said:
The two really big bodies of water on either side of the continental US kind of made that only country with huge juice status possible.YellowSnow said:
It can also be said that the shit that he did get done in the 1930's ended WWII a few years earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. You know what 3 things it takes a shit ton of juice to make, right, and what the only country on Earth was in 1939 to have a huge surplus supply of said juice?SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR. -
You are biased toward the dams. No dam building, no Joe Rantz building muscles and getting his whistle cleaned at the Coulee City whore house. No Joe Rantz big dicking, no 1936 Olympic gold. No Olympic gold, Cal runs off a 70 year dynasty and UW is matched in friendlies vs WSC at Crescent Bar in still raging Columbia River. @YellowSnow destined to convert to the brotherhood and marry his LDS cousin instead of hot tall Amazon.YellowSnow said:
And he got the dams built on both of them as part of the DO SOMETHING agenda. W/o those dams no easy refinement of aluminum for airplanes and no uranium and plutonium for the bombs.PurpleThrobber said:
The two really big bodies of water on either side of the continental US kind of made that only country with huge juice status possible.YellowSnow said:
It can also be said that the shit that he did get done in the 1930's ended WWII a few years earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. You know what 3 things it takes a shit ton of juice to make, right, and what the only country on Earth was in 1939 to have a huge surplus supply of said juice?SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR.
@dflea and @swaye happy because fish.
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So without FDR and the depression we would have sat around with our thumbs up are asses wondering what those rivers could be used for. Got it. To this day we would be stuck in 1920s technologyYellowSnow said:
And he got the dams built on both of them as part of the DO SOMETHING agenda. W/o those dams no easy refinement of aluminum for airplanes and no uranium and plutonium for the bombs.PurpleThrobber said:
The two really big bodies of water on either side of the continental US kind of made that only country with huge juice status possible.YellowSnow said:
It can also be said that the shit that he did get done in the 1930's ended WWII a few years earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. You know what 3 things it takes a shit ton of juice to make, right, and what the only country on Earth was in 1939 to have a huge surplus supply of said juice?SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR. -
FDR invented dams.MikeDamone said:
So without FDR and the depression we would have sat around with our thumbs up are asses wondering what those rivers could be used for. Got it. To this day we would be stuck in 1920s technologyYellowSnow said:
And he got the dams built on both of them as part of the DO SOMETHING agenda. W/o those dams no easy refinement of aluminum for airplanes and no uranium and plutonium for the bombs.PurpleThrobber said:
The two really big bodies of water on either side of the continental US kind of made that only country with huge juice status possible.YellowSnow said:
It can also be said that the shit that he did get done in the 1930's ended WWII a few years earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. You know what 3 things it takes a shit ton of juice to make, right, and what the only country on Earth was in 1939 to have a huge surplus supply of said juice?SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR. -
Many of them aren’t anxious to tease out ridiculous hot takes. That’s more a “classical liberal” shtick.RaceBannon said:That wouldn't have been hard for American academics and historians to ferret out
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Yet somehow, they were able to figure out the importance of dams on the Colorado river before FDR.MikeDamone said:
So without FDR and the depression we would have sat around with our thumbs up are asses wondering what those rivers could be used for. Got it. To this day we would be stuck in 1920s technologyYellowSnow said:
And he got the dams built on both of them as part of the DO SOMETHING agenda. W/o those dams no easy refinement of aluminum for airplanes and no uranium and plutonium for the bombs.PurpleThrobber said:
The two really big bodies of water on either side of the continental US kind of made that only country with huge juice status possible.YellowSnow said:
It can also be said that the shit that he did get done in the 1930's ended WWII a few years earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. You know what 3 things it takes a shit ton of juice to make, right, and what the only country on Earth was in 1939 to have a huge surplus supply of said juice?SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR.
Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover brokered the 1922 Colorado River Compact to divide the water proportionally among the seven states, but the legal wrangling continued until outgoing President Calvin Coolidge authorized the Boulder Canyon Project in December 1928. In honor of the new president’s contributions, Secretary of the Interior Ray L. Wilbur announced the structure would be called Hoover Dam at a 1930 dedication ceremony, though the name didn’t become official until 1947. -
That's not what I am saying. But the greatest infrastructure building period in the history of this country occurred in the 1930s as a response to the Depression. All that cool shit we built helped contribute to the massive economic gain which occurred from 1945- 70.MikeDamone said:
So without FDR and the depression we would have sat around with our thumbs up are asses wondering what those rivers could be used for. Got it. To this day we would be stuck in 1920s technologyYellowSnow said:
And he got the dams built on both of them as part of the DO SOMETHING agenda. W/o those dams no easy refinement of aluminum for airplanes and no uranium and plutonium for the bombs.PurpleThrobber said:
The two really big bodies of water on either side of the continental US kind of made that only country with huge juice status possible.YellowSnow said:
It can also be said that the shit that he did get done in the 1930's ended WWII a few years earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. You know what 3 things it takes a shit ton of juice to make, right, and what the only country on Earth was in 1939 to have a huge surplus supply of said juice?SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR.
I'm fine with your argument that bad monetary policy among other things prolonged the Depression. Hindsight's 20/20 on this. FDR didn't fix the problem. Reelecting Hoover wouldn't have either. Our collective understanding of economis at the time sucked.
But if were being objective of students of History vis-a-vis FDR we have to weight the good achievements against the bad.
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It’s only that pesky data that fucks up your argument.SFGbob said:
There's a reason why FDR's recovery from the Depression was as weak and anemic and prolonged as Obama's was from the 2007-2008 meltdown.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression. -
Hoover dam as amazing as it is, was chicken shit compared to the dam building binge that occurred in the 1930's and 40's as part of the New Deal.SFGbob said:
Yet somehow, they were able to figure out the importance of dams on the Colorado river before FDR.MikeDamone said:
So without FDR and the depression we would have sat around with our thumbs up are asses wondering what those rivers could be used for. Got it. To this day we would be stuck in 1920s technologyYellowSnow said:
And he got the dams built on both of them as part of the DO SOMETHING agenda. W/o those dams no easy refinement of aluminum for airplanes and no uranium and plutonium for the bombs.PurpleThrobber said:
The two really big bodies of water on either side of the continental US kind of made that only country with huge juice status possible.YellowSnow said:
It can also be said that the shit that he did get done in the 1930's ended WWII a few years earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. You know what 3 things it takes a shit ton of juice to make, right, and what the only country on Earth was in 1939 to have a huge surplus supply of said juice?SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR.
Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover brokered the 1922 Colorado River Compact to divide the water proportionally among the seven states, but the legal wrangling continued until outgoing President Calvin Coolidge authorized the Boulder Canyon Project in December 1928. In honor of the new president’s contributions, Secretary of the Interior Ray L. Wilbur announced the structure would be called Hoover Dam at a 1930 dedication ceremony, though the name didn’t become official until 1947. -
Yeah, the New Deal was doing great to "fix" the economy.HHusky said:
It’s only that pesky data that fucks up your argument.SFGbob said:
There's a reason why FDR's recovery from the Depression was as weak and anemic and prolonged as Obama's was from the 2007-2008 meltdown.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
Unemployment rate 1931 - 15.9% the year before FDR took office and "fixed" the economy.
Unemployment rate 1938 - 19%. six years after FDR took office. -
This is probably the best and most accurate post you've made @PurpleThrobber in your HH tenure.PurpleThrobber said:
You are biased toward the dams. No dam building, no Joe Rantz building muscles and getting his whistle cleaned at the Coulee City whore house. No Joe Rantz big dicking, no 1936 Olympic gold. No Olympic gold, Cal runs off a 70 year dynasty and UW is matched in friendlies vs WSC at Crescent Bar in still raging Columbia River. @YellowSnow destined to convert to the brotherhood and marry his LDS cousin instead of hot tall Amazon.YellowSnow said:
And he got the dams built on both of them as part of the DO SOMETHING agenda. W/o those dams no easy refinement of aluminum for airplanes and no uranium and plutonium for the bombs.PurpleThrobber said:
The two really big bodies of water on either side of the continental US kind of made that only country with huge juice status possible.YellowSnow said:
It can also be said that the shit that he did get done in the 1930's ended WWII a few years earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. You know what 3 things it takes a shit ton of juice to make, right, and what the only country on Earth was in 1939 to have a huge surplus supply of said juice?SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR.
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