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Leftist hero FDR an anti Semite piece of shit
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Great, but it isn't as if they didn't know about dam building before FDR.YellowSnow said:
Hoover dam as amazing as it is, was chicken shit compared to the dam building binge that occurred in the 1930's and 40's as part of the New Deal.SFGbob said:
Yet somehow, they were able to figure out the importance of dams on the Colorado river before FDR.MikeDamone said:
So without FDR and the depression we would have sat around with our thumbs up are asses wondering what those rivers could be used for. Got it. To this day we would be stuck in 1920s technologyYellowSnow said:
And he got the dams built on both of them as part of the DO SOMETHING agenda. W/o those dams no easy refinement of aluminum for airplanes and no uranium and plutonium for the bombs.PurpleThrobber said:
The two really big bodies of water on either side of the continental US kind of made that only country with huge juice status possible.YellowSnow said:
It can also be said that the shit that he did get done in the 1930's ended WWII a few years earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. You know what 3 things it takes a shit ton of juice to make, right, and what the only country on Earth was in 1939 to have a huge surplus supply of said juice?SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR.
Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover brokered the 1922 Colorado River Compact to divide the water proportionally among the seven states, but the legal wrangling continued until outgoing President Calvin Coolidge authorized the Boulder Canyon Project in December 1928. In honor of the new president’s contributions, Secretary of the Interior Ray L. Wilbur announced the structure would be called Hoover Dam at a 1930 dedication ceremony, though the name didn’t become official until 1947. -
FDR took office in 1932?SFGbob said:
Yeah, the New Deal was doing great to "fix" the economy.HHusky said:
It’s only that pesky data that fucks up your argument.SFGbob said:
There's a reason why FDR's recovery from the Depression was as weak and anemic and prolonged as Obama's was from the 2007-2008 meltdown.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
Unemployment rate 1931 - 15.9% the year before FDR took office and "fixed" the economy.
Unemployment rate 1938 - 19%. six years after FDR took office. -
They either got built as part of the New Deal or they didn't. We have to judge FDR on the entirety of the body of work. If WWII never happens then he doesn't run in 1940 probably and he's not on a dime, and it takes the US longer to come out of the Depression. Better to be lucky than good sometimes.SFGbob said:
Great, but it isn't as if they didn't know about dam building before FDR.YellowSnow said:
Hoover dam as amazing as it is, was chicken shit compared to the dam building binge that occurred in the 1930's and 40's as part of the New Deal.SFGbob said:
Yet somehow, they were able to figure out the importance of dams on the Colorado river before FDR.MikeDamone said:
So without FDR and the depression we would have sat around with our thumbs up are asses wondering what those rivers could be used for. Got it. To this day we would be stuck in 1920s technologyYellowSnow said:
And he got the dams built on both of them as part of the DO SOMETHING agenda. W/o those dams no easy refinement of aluminum for airplanes and no uranium and plutonium for the bombs.PurpleThrobber said:
The two really big bodies of water on either side of the continental US kind of made that only country with huge juice status possible.YellowSnow said:
It can also be said that the shit that he did get done in the 1930's ended WWII a few years earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. You know what 3 things it takes a shit ton of juice to make, right, and what the only country on Earth was in 1939 to have a huge surplus supply of said juice?SFGbob said:
His policies kept the economy from recovering as swiftly as it would have if the government had done nothing. You might as well say that his FDR also prevented us from being invaded by Mars.YellowSnow said:
His policies did not end the Depression. They did, however, show Americans that we were trying to DO SOMETHING. In the end, the center held and no radical left or rightwing elements gained power in this country. We won 2 massive wars at once and emerged at the most powerful nation on Earth by the time FDR died. We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
We can only judge the man on what happened vs what might have happened.
Which is exactly what you did in your assessment of FDR.
Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover brokered the 1922 Colorado River Compact to divide the water proportionally among the seven states, but the legal wrangling continued until outgoing President Calvin Coolidge authorized the Boulder Canyon Project in December 1928. In honor of the new president’s contributions, Secretary of the Interior Ray L. Wilbur announced the structure would be called Hoover Dam at a 1930 dedication ceremony, though the name didn’t become official until 1947. -
FDR made the trains run on time post of the dayHHusky said:
Many of them aren’t anxious to tease out ridiculous hot takes. That’s more a “classical liberal” shtick.RaceBannon said:That wouldn't have been hard for American academics and historians to ferret out
So what if some Jews fried -
No, he took office in March 1933. By the end of that year the unemployment rate was 24.9% Feel the "fixing" of the economy.HHusky said:
FDR took office in 1932?SFGbob said:
Yeah, the New Deal was doing great to "fix" the economy.HHusky said:
It’s only that pesky data that fucks up your argument.SFGbob said:
There's a reason why FDR's recovery from the Depression was as weak and anemic and prolonged as Obama's was from the 2007-2008 meltdown.MikeDamone said:
Not saying a lot since FDR did the opposite of help the economy recoverPurpleThrobber said:
Churchill did more for US economic recovery than Roosevelt ever did.MikeDamone said:
Another mythSFGbob said:
He also turned a blind eye and accommodated the members of his party who imposed the apartheid/Jim Crow/lynching system on black Americans all in order maintain political power.WestlinnDuck said:And just like the dictator Trump, FDR interned 120,000 American citizens in prison camps. Yellow man bad.
But, but, but he got us out of the Depression.
Unemployment rate 1931 - 15.9% the year before FDR took office and "fixed" the economy.
Unemployment rate 1938 - 19%. six years after FDR took office. -
Anyone else amused that the antI-immigrant Tug isolationists are bagging on FDR for not using his political capital to rescue European Jews?RaceBannon said:
FDR made the trains run on time post of the dayHHusky said:
Many of them aren’t anxious to tease out ridiculous hot takes. That’s more a “classical liberal” shtick.RaceBannon said:That wouldn't have been hard for American academics and historians to ferret out
So what if some Jews fried -
FDR could have done more to help save the Jews of Europe. He also needs to be judged based on the context of the times. He didn't sign the 1924 Immigration Act into Law which closed the gates to basically EVERYONE including Jews. The USA wasn't nativist and isolationist in the 1930s because of FDR.RaceBannon said:
FDR made the trains run on time post of the dayHHusky said:
Many of them aren’t anxious to tease out ridiculous hot takes. That’s more a “classical liberal” shtick.RaceBannon said:That wouldn't have been hard for American academics and historians to ferret out
So what if some Jews fried -
Anyone else amused that a lying Kunt would call people "antl-immigrant" just because they oppose illegal immigration?HHusky said:
Anyone else amused that the antI-immigrant Tug isolationists are bagging on FDR for not using his political capital to rescue European Jews?RaceBannon said:
FDR made the trains run on time post of the dayHHusky said:
Many of them aren’t anxious to tease out ridiculous hot takes. That’s more a “classical liberal” shtick.RaceBannon said:That wouldn't have been hard for American academics and historians to ferret out
So what if some Jews fried -
He turned at least one ship awayYellowSnow said:
FDR could have done more to help save the Jews of Europe. He also needs to be judged based on the context of the times. He didn't sign the 1924 Immigration Act into Law which closed the gates to basically EVERYONE including Jews. The USA wasn't nativist and isolationist in the 1930s because of FDR.RaceBannon said:
FDR made the trains run on time post of the dayHHusky said:
Many of them aren’t anxious to tease out ridiculous hot takes. That’s more a “classical liberal” shtick.RaceBannon said:That wouldn't have been hard for American academics and historians to ferret out
So what if some Jews fried
He was anti semitic like most of his class
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And many in his Solid South coalition.RaceBannon said:
He turned at least one ship awayYellowSnow said:
FDR could have done more to help save the Jews of Europe. He also needs to be judged based on the context of the times. He didn't sign the 1924 Immigration Act into Law which closed the gates to basically EVERYONE including Jews. The USA wasn't nativist and isolationist in the 1930s because of FDR.RaceBannon said:
FDR made the trains run on time post of the dayHHusky said:
Many of them aren’t anxious to tease out ridiculous hot takes. That’s more a “classical liberal” shtick.RaceBannon said:That wouldn't have been hard for American academics and historians to ferret out
So what if some Jews fried
He was anti semitic like most of his class
