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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    While on topic of basketball at what point do we stop considering UCLA a power? I mean they've won just won fucking title since 1976. Only been to the NCAA finals three fucking times since Wooden retired in 1975.

    Only been to the final four six times(first year immediately after Wooden, three straight with Howland). Only 10 regular season conference championships since 1980.

    At what point do you just say they happened to have a great coach in Wooden and they aren't a great program. Prior to Wooden they weren't shit and after Wooden they've been living off of his name as they haven't really done jack shit.

    When a coaching job opened up they had to settle for Steve Alford, while when Kentucky job came up they landed Calipari, UNC got Roy Williams.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Florida was a shit program until they started caring about basketball.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Gators_men's_basketball

    Fixed.
    Hey genius, if you have a good fucking coach, you will have a good fucking season, you will get people to care about the fucking program, and you will get asses into the fucking seats.

    People in the PNW rarely show up to support mediocrity (Husky football being the exception). Look at the home crowds at UW's basketball games this year. No one is their because they fucking suck, not because "the boosters and fans don't care about basketball"

    If only UW could get just the right coach.....
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,285
    dnc said:

    Im talking long term ucla, arizona, unc, kansas type of success, not Butler or Creighton

    Arizona was nothing before they hired Lute Olson. UCLA was nothing before they hired John Wooden. UConn was nothing before they hired Calhoun.

    Etc.
    Recent example of "etc." - Florida and Billy.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,142 Standard Supporter

    While on topic of basketball at what point do we stop considering UCLA a power? I mean they've won just won fucking title since 1976. Only been to the NCAA finals three fucking times since Wooden retired in 1975.

    Only been to the final four six times(first year immediately after Wooden, three straight with Howland). Only 10 regular season conference championships since 1980.

    At what point do you just say they happened to have a great coach in Wooden and they aren't a great program. Prior to Wooden they weren't shit and after Wooden they've been living off of his name as they haven't really done jack shit.

    When a coaching job opened up they had to settle for Steve Alford, while when Kentucky job came up they landed Calipari, UNC got Roy Williams.

    They're a secondary power. Outside of Howland's run and the '95 team, they're usually a 4-8 seed. Alford is overrated so that won't change anytime soon.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited April 2014

    While on topic of basketball at what point do we stop considering UCLA a power? I mean they've won just won fucking title since 1976. Only been to the NCAA finals three fucking times since Wooden retired in 1975.

    Only been to the final four six times(first year immediately after Wooden, three straight with Howland). Only 10 regular season conference championships since 1980.

    At what point do you just say they happened to have a great coach in Wooden and they aren't a great program. Prior to Wooden they weren't shit and after Wooden they've been living off of his name as they haven't really done jack shit.

    When a coaching job opened up they had to settle for Steve Alford, while when Kentucky job came up they landed Calipari, UNC got Roy Williams.

    well... that coach UCLA 'settled' for did get them to the sweet sixteen and won 28 games in his first season so....

    also, the last time Romar won the Pac-12 wayyyyyy back in 2012, Hec Ed had tickets available at the booth past tipoff for every single game but one... the game vs. the Cuogs.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    So UCLA is amazing for making the sweet 16? Steve Lavin made a few sweet 16's and nobody considers his tenure successful.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    So UCLA is amazing for making the sweet 16? Steve Lavin made a few sweet 16's and nobody considers his tenure successful.

    Reading isn't really in your wheelhouse, is it... NTTAWWT.

    I'm thinking it was Lavin's 10-19 final season that gave Bruin fans the greatest heartburn rather than a string of sweet 16 appearances but, I don't really follow the Bruins so, I might have a faulty read on that.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453

    So UCLA is amazing for making the sweet 16? Steve Lavin made a few sweet 16's and nobody considers his tenure successful.

    Reading isn't really in your wheelhouse, is it... NTTAWWT.

    I'm thinking it was Lavin's 10-19 final season that gave Bruin fans the greatest heartburn rather than a string of sweet 16 appearances but, I don't really follow the Bruins so, I might have a faulty read on that.
    So a string of sweet 16 seasons makes them a powerhouse?

    My whole point on UCLA is that they were a program that was nothing before Wooden and have been a mediocre program since Wooden. So if anything that goes into the whole find a good coach and you can be a power philosophy.

    Lavin also never made a final four at UCLA which is to be looked down on. He was their Jim Lambright.