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The comparison where Obama fails miserably is to Reagan who took over a worse economy and got the best growth
Obama didn't want growth. His job as he saw it was to oversee the transformation to socialism and bread lines. He just needed more tim -
Didn't vote for Trump last time because of his rhetoric. His opponents have proven to be a far greater threat to our democracy while most of what he says falls flat compared to what his policies actually are. The dems completely lost me in the race for the Left and what Trump has exposed them for. As my 40 yr union card carrying father in law put it, "He could be great if he'd just learn to shut his fucking mouth and keep doing what he's doing."
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I didn't vote for Trump. I thought he was a Trojan horse for leftists. I didn't see how a life long NYC Democrat could ever honestly keep the promises he made. I will gladly vote for him this next election. The thing with Trump is that you just have to ignore what he says and watch what he does.UW_Doog_Bot said:Didn't vote for Trump last time because of his rhetoric. His opponents have proven to be a far greater threat to our democracy while most of what he says falls flat compared to what his policies actually are. The dems completely lost me in the race for the Left and what Trump has exposed them for. As my 40 yr union card carrying father in law put it, "He could be great if he'd just learn to shut his fucking mouth and keep doing what he's doing."
For cleaning up the VA alone Trump deserves re-election. That was a problem that both Bush and Obama said they were going to fix and neither one did it. And like it our not, the border is now getting more under control. He has governed far more conservatively than I ever thought was possible. -
If Trump had Ivy League news readers getting his message out it would sound a lot more refined but the GOP doesn't get that. Could Trump be more refined? Of course but he's a NY developer. Construction isn't pretty. A lot of us have rough edges but it doesn't make us stupid
And there is a base in this country that wants Trump to go after the left hard. And he does
For all the revisionist history about Reagan who was FAR smoother and funnier, RR was treated the same and accused of the same hateful divisive rhetoric
Whatever - just don't let the left run your campaign like McCain and Romney and you can win -
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Teddy Roosevelt was a bull in a china shop for his time. Sometimes you have to crush some grapes to get wine.RaceBannon said:If Trump had Ivy League news readers getting his message out it would sound a lot more refined but the GOP doesn't get that. Could Trump be more refined? Of course but he's a NY developer. Construction isn't pretty. A lot of us have rough edges but it doesn't make us stupid
And there is a base in this country that wants Trump to go after the left hard. And he does
For all the revisionist history about Reagan who was FAR smoother and funnier, RR was treated the same and accused of the same hateful divisive rhetoric
Whatever - just don't let the left run your campaign like McCain and Romney and you can win
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salemcoog said:
The economy did recover under Obama and it was humming along quite nicely when Trump took over. Even did some relative cost cutting in the process. All forced by the Tea Party, but cost cutting none the less.
A ton of shit to criticize Obama about, but He isn’t the one that cratered the economy. That was under Bush’s watch. You could even say it wasn’t really Bush’s fault. Just the dumkopfs that repealed Glass Steigel and the greedy Wall St brokers that packaged the worst of the worst of toxic paper and sold it as A paper.
The recovery wasn’t quick. But people forget just how far the economy had fallen.
Bush didn’t crater the economy. It mostly was Democrat legislation and there intransigence to not heed the Warnings of the Bush adminIstration to provide stronger oversight of Fannie and Freddie. If you would like I can lay out the whole damned Democrat mess.salemcoog said:
The economy did recover under Obama and it was humming along quite nicely when Trump took over. Even did some relative cost cutting in the process. All forced by the Tea Party, but cost cutting none the less.
A ton of shit to criticize Obama about, but He isn’t the one that cratered the economy. That was under Bush’s watch. You could even say it wasn’t really Bush’s fault. Just the dumkopfs that repealed Glass Steigel and the greedy Wall St brokers that packaged the worst of the worst of toxic paper and sold it as A paper.
The recovery wasn’t quick. But people forget just how far the economy had fallen.
Also Oboner’s “ recovery” was the worst recovery from a recession recorded. With all due respect that you believe this crap you post is evidence of your ignorance.
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I don't think Trump is stupid. He is Yoda at his craft.RaceBannon said:If Trump had Ivy League news readers getting his message out it would sound a lot more refined but the GOP doesn't get that. Could Trump be more refined? Of course but he's a NY developer. Construction isn't pretty. A lot of us have rough edges but it doesn't make us stupid
And there is a base in this country that wants Trump to go after the left hard. And he does
For all the revisionist history about Reagan who was FAR smoother and funnier, RR was treated the same and accused of the same hateful divisive rhetoric
Whatever - just don't let the left run your campaign like McCain and Romney and you can win -
To be fair, they all had a hand in it, Ds and Rs. Chris Cox actually lobbied to get rid of the 7 to 1 (deposit to credit) lending ratios entirely, and there were plenty of other Dumbshit Republicans coming up with insane ideas like that that could've plunged the country into a depression. The banks won't bother much with credit checks or credit concerns when they know they can eventually bend the taxpayer over and take him for all he's worth to clean up their fuckups.DJDuck said:
Bush didn’t crater the economy. It mostly was Democrat legislation and there intransigence to not heed the Warnings of the Bush adminIstration to provide stronger oversight of Fannie and Freddie. If you would like I can lay out the whole damned Democrat mess.
Also Oboner’s “ recovery” was the worst recovery from a recession recorded. With all due respect that you believe this crap you post is evidence of your ignorance.
The Right had it's stable of monstrously stupid pro-bank legislators, just like the Dems (Hi Biden! Hi Hillary!).
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To not be aware of what each party is doing is not wise when making decisions about how you want to live your life. Both sides influence your quality of life.TurdBomber said:
If you're so sanctimonious and above-it-all, Jimmy, then why all the time and energy spent preaching your superiority to us lesser-thans?
Get over yourself, Pal. You're a prototypical, smug Seattleite, all the way.
I'm not above it all. You are not lesser than's. I hate Seattle. I moved.
I just don't have to gargle the President's ballz and tell everyone how great is on a daily basis.
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This, whiff a bullet.RaceBannon said:It has not escaped notice that Team TDS goes silent when asked to extol the virtues of any of the trash running against Trump. They are more embarrassed
I voted for Trump and will again. I've always been anti establishment and the ass clowns in the establishment lined up against him from day 1 are his biggest endorsement
I don't love or worship or give a shit about the person. Its the office
If I want something built I call a developer not a functionary. If the democrats had half a brain and would work with him we could get troops home, build infrastructure, and fix healthcare
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Agree, both parties have dirty hands in all of this but if you're looking for one single culprit it was the creation of Fannie and Freddie.TurdBomber said:
To be fair, they all had a hand in it, Ds and Rs. Chris Cox actually lobbied to get rid of the 7 to 1 (deposit to credit) lending ratios entirely, and there were plenty of other Dumbshit Republicans coming up with insane ideas like that that could've plunged the country into a depression. The banks won't bother much with credit checks or credit concerns when they know they can eventually bend the taxpayer over and take him for all he's worth to clean up their fuckups.
The Right had it's stable of monstrously stupid pro-bank legislators, just like the Dems (Hi Biden! Hi Hillary!).
Want to prevent failed banks? Close minimum security, white collar prisons and send the thieves to Rikers Island. Shit would stop overnight. -
Perhaps but........TurdBomber said:
To be fair, they all had a hand in it, Ds and Rs. Chris Cox actually lobbied to get rid of the 7 to 1 (deposit to credit) lending ratios entirely, and there were plenty of other Dumbshit Republicans coming up with insane ideas like that that could've plunged the country into a depression. The banks won't bother much with credit checks or credit concerns when they know they can eventually bend the taxpayer over and take him for all he's worth to clean up their fuckups.
The Right had it's stable of monstrously stupid pro-bank legislators, just like the Dems (Hi Biden! Hi Hillary!).
Want to prevent failed banks? Close minimum security, white collar prisons and send the thieves to Rikers Island. Shit would stop overnight.
The CRA forced banks to make loans to unqualified people that a had no way to pay them back.
While working for an ACORN affiliate Obama sued Citibank because they weren’t making loans to unqualified borrowers as the CRA required.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPSDnGMzIdo
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I'm a fan of Teddy but the left took his short term safety net ideas and made them generational vote purchasing machines. If Teddy was alive he'd be shooting people.PurpleThrobber said:
Teddy Roosevelt was a bull in a china shop for his time. Sometimes you have to crush some grapes to get wine. -
https://youtu.be/IyqYY72PeRM
Notice asshole Gregory Meeks insulting Government Regulators trying to warn them of the coming storm.
Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick made corrupt millions from manipulation of Fannie and Freddie rules to enrich themselves.
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A whore is a whore is a whore. Doesn't matter who started the world's oldest profession. You fuck for money, you're still a whore.SFGbob said:
Agree, both parties have dirty hands in all of this but if you're looking for one single culprit it was the creation of Fannie and Freddie. -
Not disagreeing. Human greed will always be with us. The problem was the Fannie and Freddie created a system where human greed could be backed up with the full faith and credit of the US taxpayers.TurdBomber said:
A whore is a whore is a whore. Doesn't matter who started the world's oldest profession. You fuck for money, you're still a whore. -
That you believe this to be the case is your problem. Actions speak louder than words, and Trump is doing a bunch of shit I support, and which prior Presidents said they'd do, or claimed to be doing, but never did. China, TPP, re-doing NAFTA, Border Security, telling Europe to pay it's fair share of defense costs, or fuck off.....All stuff I want and shit that Dems once said they cared about, but their actions showed they did not GAF or have the balls to follow through on. I don't like a lot of what Trump says and I didn't vote for him, but I like about 60% to 70% what he's doing.jecornel said:
To not be aware of what each party is doing is not wise when making decisions about how you want to live your life. Both sides influence your quality of life.
I'm not above it all. You are not lesser than's. I hate Seattle. I moved.
I just don't have to gargle the President's ballz and tell everyone how great is on a daily basis.
I voted twice for Obama, and he really didn't do Jack Shit his second term, except bless all Hillary's "I'll Prove I'm Man Enough" wars in the ME. All Michelle and he did was worry about his Legacy for 4 years, and that had me wishing I'd voted for Romney by 2014. -
Isn't that Barney Fag above?
I miss Dick Army sometimes. And what a tough fucking name!! -
Obama Sued Citibank Under CRA to Force it to Make Bad Loans – UPDATED
https://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/obama-sued-citibank-under-cra-to-force-it-to-make-bad-loans/ -
Obama did green light 26,000 bombs to be dropped in the middle East his last year. So there's that.TurdBomber said:
That you believe this to be the case is your problem. Actions speak louder than words, and Trump is doing a bunch of shit I support, and which prior Presidents said they'd do, or claimed to be doing, but never did. China, TPP, re-doing NAFTA, Border Security, telling Europe to pay it's fair share of defense costs, or fuck off.....All stuff I want and shit that Dems once said they cared about, but their actions showed they did not GAF or have the balls to follow through on. I don't like a lot of what Trump says and I didn't vote for him, but I like about 60% to 70% what he's doing.
I voted twice for Obama, and he really didn't do Jack Shit his second term, except bless all Hillary's "I'll Prove I'm Man Enough" wars in the ME. All Michelle and he did was worry about his Legacy for 4 years, and that had me wishing I'd voted for Romney by 2014.
I don't have a problem. Welcome to the tug buddy.
Trump is making all of our lives better. -
The difference is almost all conservatives wanted Fannie pulled in including most Republicans. All leftards were arguing to expand Fannie and almost all dem congressmen and women agreed. This isn't a plague on both houses thing. Leftards were wrong about Fannie and the CRA. Man up and own it. Like that will happen.
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So we agree then.DJDuck said:
Bush didn’t crater the economy. It mostly was Democrat legislation and there intransigence to not heed the Warnings of the Bush adminIstration to provide stronger oversight of Fannie and Freddie. If you would like I can lay out the whole damned Democrat mess.
Also Oboner’s “ recovery” was the worst recovery from a recession recorded. With all due respect that you believe this crap you post is evidence of your ignorance. -
Sorry, who are you again? You appear to be lost.jecornel said:
Obama did green light 26,000 bombs to be dropped in the middle East his last year. So there's that.
I don't have a problem. Welcome to the tug buddy.
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A couple things I've observed. 1) Many People don't look at the president as a person who represents a branch of the government and sets policy, but someone they would like or not like to be buddies with. Someone they would like to have a beer with. And 2) they tie their identity to who the present is. They see the president as extension and of themselves,MisterEm said:
so when the president acts in way they find offensive to them, they have a personal and emotional reaction. This is because most people of observation #1, most people don't really understand or care about policy, but are generally driven by emotion and what's ever in front of their face in a moment. That's why the media can play people so well. -
Kind of a like a head football coach.MikeDamone said:
A couple things I've observed. 1) Many People don't look at the president as a person who represents a branch of the government and sets policy, but someone they would like or not like to be buddies with. Someone they would like to have a beer with. And 2) they tie their identity to who the present is. They see the president as extension and of themselves,
so when the president acts in way they find offensive to them, they have a personal and emotional reaction. This is because most people of observation #1, most people don't really understand or care about policy, but are generally driven by emotion and what's ever in front of their face in a moment. That's why the media can play people so well.
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Damone you owe me a beer bro!!
Renton landing? Say 6:30? Coldest beer in town right? -
I don’t owe you shit. Go fuck yourselfjecornel said:Damone you owe me a beer bro!!
Renton landing? Say 6:30? Coldest beer in town right? -
Cheers! Mike!MikeDamone said:
I don’t owe you shit. Go fuck yourself
https://youtu.be/yoglNFN5-Js
