I am pretty firmly (lulz) against Helfrich as it's still debated how much of an impact he really had while working under revolutionary-at-the-time Chip. And he sucked everywhere else.
That being said, to play devil's advocate you can also argue that Chip never was remotely as good either once he was separated from Helfrich. And the VAJ Oregon offense might have been their best O of that era if he had stayed healthy. So yeah idk.
I am pretty firmly (lulz) against Helfrich as it's still debated how much of an impact he really had while working under revolutionary-at-the-time Chip. And he sucked everywhere else.
That being said, to play devil's advocate you can also argue that Chip never was remotely as good either once he was separated from Helfrich. And the VAJ Oregon offense might have been their best O of that era if he had stayed healthy. So yeah idk.
Helfrich had his play calling duties stripped after the Boise St game in 2009. That was the first and only game Helfrich ever play called. Can you be a good coordinator and not call plays? I guess, but not likely.
I am pretty firmly (lulz) against Helfrich as it's still debated how much of an impact he really had while working under revolutionary-at-the-time Chip. And he sucked everywhere else.
That being said, to play devil's advocate you can also argue that Chip never was remotely as good either once he was separated from Helfrich. And the VAJ Oregon offense might have been their best O of that era if he had stayed healthy. So yeah idk.
Helfrich had his play calling duties stripped after the Boise St game in 2009. That was the first and only game Helfrich ever play called. Can you be a good coordinator and not call plays? I guess, but not likely.
Frost called plays 2013 and onward? Helf never did? Holy christ. So much for playing devil's advocate.
I am pretty firmly (lulz) against Helfrich as it's still debated how much of an impact he really had while working under revolutionary-at-the-time Chip. And he sucked everywhere else.
That being said, to play devil's advocate you can also argue that Chip never was remotely as good either once he was separated from Helfrich. And the VAJ Oregon offense might have been their best O of that era if he had stayed healthy. So yeah idk.
Helfrich had his play calling duties stripped after the Boise St game in 2009. That was the first and only game Helfrich ever play called. Can you be a good coordinator and not call plays? I guess, but not likely.
I am pretty firmly (lulz) against Helfrich as it's still debated how much of an impact he really had while working under revolutionary-at-the-time Chip. And he sucked everywhere else.
That being said, to play devil's advocate you can also argue that Chip never was remotely as good either once he was separated from Helfrich. And the VAJ Oregon offense might have been their best O of that era if he had stayed healthy. So yeah idk.
Helfrich had his play calling duties stripped after the Boise St game in 2009. That was the first and only game Helfrich ever play called. Can you be a good coordinator and not call plays? I guess, but not likely.
Frost called plays 2013 and onward? Helf never did? Holy christ. So much for playing devil's advocate.
Correct. I'm sure Helf called things here and there, but he has not been the primary play caller for a team since 2008. Kelly, Frost, and Nagy all called the plays. Helf is a glorified analyst.
I am pretty firmly (lulz) against Helfrich as it's still debated how much of an impact he really had while working under revolutionary-at-the-time Chip. And he sucked everywhere else.
That being said, to play devil's advocate you can also argue that Chip never was remotely as good either once he was separated from Helfrich. And the VAJ Oregon offense might have been their best O of that era if he had stayed healthy. So yeah idk.
Helfrich had his play calling duties stripped after the Boise St game in 2009. That was the first and only game Helfrich ever play called. Can you be a good coordinator and not call plays? I guess, but not likely.
Frost called plays 2013 and onward? Helf never did? Holy christ. So much for playing devil's advocate.
Correct. I'm sure Helf called things here and there, but he has not been the primary play caller for a team since 2008. Kelly, Frost, and Nagy all called the plays. Helf is a glorified analyst.
Is it possible we hired him as an assistant a la tedford with someone else doing playcalling. Im on board with that.
I am pretty firmly (lulz) against Helfrich as it's still debated how much of an impact he really had while working under revolutionary-at-the-time Chip. And he sucked everywhere else.
That being said, to play devil's advocate you can also argue that Chip never was remotely as good either once he was separated from Helfrich. And the VAJ Oregon offense might have been their best O of that era if he had stayed healthy. So yeah idk.
Helfrich had his play calling duties stripped after the Boise St game in 2009. That was the first and only game Helfrich ever play called. Can you be a good coordinator and not call plays? I guess, but not likely.
Frost called plays 2013 and onward? Helf never did? Holy christ. So much for playing devil's advocate.
Correct. I'm sure Helf called things here and there, but he has not been the primary play caller for a team since 2008. Kelly, Frost, and Nagy all called the plays. Helf is a glorified analyst.
Is it possible we hired him as an assistant a la tedford with someone else doing playcalling. Im on board with that.
It's entirely possible he'd be a fantastic play caller. /shrug I think his biggest issue is that he hits on his QB recruits about 1 in 4 times.
Hiring coordinators is far more art than science. Our best OC in recent history, Gilby, we got from Idaho. Times have changed. Gilby left a HC job to make $55,000 as our OC. Gilby won at Idaho, too. Had this occurred today, he'd have a host of quality HC options which of course he would have failed miserably.
There's the lottery ticket, a young slick Kliff Kingsbury starter kit, unproven, installs the spread, abandons the run and signs 5 WR recruiting classes. No TEs. No RB. No thanks.
The bar is fucking low when Sark is calling plays in Tuscaloosa.
I want a balanced up tempo offense. No more immobile QBs. Helfrich signed Mariotta and Herbert. They worked out ok. A Heisman for Mariotta. Herbert goes in the top-10, with a good OL he led Oregon to a top 5 finish. Cristobal signed Cale Millen
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Hth
That being said, to play devil's advocate you can also argue that Chip never was remotely as good either once he was separated from Helfrich. And the VAJ Oregon offense might have been their best O of that era if he had stayed healthy. So yeah idk.
Firmly against sling blade.
That said he is probably better than bush. But still.
Why have Chip’s offenses at UCLA sucked and looked nothing schematically like the elite ones he had at Oregon?
Hiring coordinators is far more art than science. Our best OC in recent history, Gilby, we got from Idaho. Times have changed. Gilby left a HC job to make $55,000 as our OC. Gilby won at Idaho, too. Had this occurred today, he'd have a host of quality HC options which of course he would have failed miserably.
There's the lottery ticket, a young slick Kliff Kingsbury starter kit, unproven, installs the spread, abandons the run and signs 5 WR recruiting classes. No TEs. No RB. No thanks.
The bar is fucking low when Sark is calling plays in Tuscaloosa.
I want a balanced up tempo offense. No more immobile QBs. Helfrich signed Mariotta and Herbert. They worked out ok. A Heisman for Mariotta. Herbert goes in the top-10, with a good OL he led Oregon to a top 5 finish. Cristobal signed Cale Millen
One thing that hasn’t been talked about - dude can’t recruit.