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Considering where LSU's offense is now compared to where it had been so stagnant for years in the past, Jimmy needs to follow that blueprint and pluck someone out of the NFL.
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Absolutely idiotic post. Disagree about OL coach. That’s an important role and I would much rather have a great OL coach than an average one.Kingdome_Urinals said:OL coach and WR mean very little in the scheme of things. It's all on CP.
When have you heard of a team that hired a better WR coach and got dramatically better on offense? Never. All WR coaches do the same shit. Some just coach actually good WRs.
We got drastically better with Bush Hamdan as our WR coach. Ross came back and was much improved and it was night and day with Pettis. I don’t think it was all because of him, but it helped having him instead of Pease.
They do the same shit, but the coach needs to get his guys assignment sound, playing with confidence, focused, always seeking to improve, etc.
Teachers mostly teach the same thing. History is history, but some teach it better than others.
The only thing you are right about is that it is all on CP. he does need to hire good coaches and that’s very debatable at this point. -
I”m thinking LSU’s magic is Burrow more than Brady.
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he has a 3 seasons as a DC under his belt and will do everything he can to win in 2020dnc said:On the one hand I think this demonstrates that Eason is overrated even by Lake.
OTOH I like that Lake is trying to do everything to win in 2020 and not take three years to until winning matters. -
Originally I would have agreed with this but I learned recently from "Sub K" on the BDTW podcast that the o line performance has nothing to do with the o line coach as long as he is recruiting well. In this case, poor o line performance is the fault of the running back coach and offensive coordinator. If, however, the o line coach is deemed a poor recruiter, then any deficiencies in o line production fall at his feetRoadDawg55 said:
Absolutely idiotic post. Disagree about OL coach. That’s an important role and I would much rather have a great OL coach than an average one.Kingdome_Urinals said:OL coach and WR mean very little in the scheme of things. It's all on CP.
When have you heard of a team that hired a better WR coach and got dramatically better on offense? Never. All WR coaches do the same shit. Some just coach actually good WRs.
We got drastically better with Bush Hamdan as our WR coach. Ross came back and was much improved and it was night and day with Pettis. I don’t think it was all because of him, but it helped having him instead of Pease.
They do the same shit, but the coach needs to get his guys assignment sound, playing with confidence, focused, always seeking to improve, etc.
Teachers mostly teach the same thing. History is history, but some teach it better than others.
The only thing you are right about is that it is all on CP. he does need to hire good coaches and that’s very debatable at this point. -
Adrian fucking Clemm. Unless you’re getting all 5 star guys, I would argue that coaching is more important because most of these guys are at a similar level on talent and it’s coaching that determines whether they make it or not.bananasnblondes said:
Originally I would have agreed with this but I learned recently from "Sub K" on the BDTW podcast that the o line performance has nothing to do with the o line coach as long as he is recruiting well. In this case, poor o line performance is the fault of the running back coach and offensive coordinator. If, however, the o line coach is deemed a poor recruiter, then any deficiencies in o line production fall at his feetRoadDawg55 said:
Absolutely idiotic post. Disagree about OL coach. That’s an important role and I would much rather have a great OL coach than an average one.Kingdome_Urinals said:OL coach and WR mean very little in the scheme of things. It's all on CP.
When have you heard of a team that hired a better WR coach and got dramatically better on offense? Never. All WR coaches do the same shit. Some just coach actually good WRs.
We got drastically better with Bush Hamdan as our WR coach. Ross came back and was much improved and it was night and day with Pettis. I don’t think it was all because of him, but it helped having him instead of Pease.
They do the same shit, but the coach needs to get his guys assignment sound, playing with confidence, focused, always seeking to improve, etc.
Teachers mostly teach the same thing. History is history, but some teach it better than others.
The only thing you are right about is that it is all on CP. he does need to hire good coaches and that’s very debatable at this point. -
Terrible response, except for the very end. John Ross was good because he was healthy for a full year, had a great defense, a decent QB, a superb TB, and plenty of nice scoring opportunities. A good WR coach, in the sense that they can communicate effectively with kids, is better than a terrible one, for sure.RoadDawg55 said:
Absolutely idiotic post. Disagree about OL coach. That’s an important role and I would much rather have a great OL coach than an average one.Kingdome_Urinals said:OL coach and WR mean very little in the scheme of things. It's all on CP.
When have you heard of a team that hired a better WR coach and got dramatically better on offense? Never. All WR coaches do the same shit. Some just coach actually good WRs.
We got drastically better with Bush Hamdan as our WR coach. Ross came back and was much improved and it was night and day with Pettis. I don’t think it was all because of him, but it helped having him instead of Pease.
They do the same shit, but the coach needs to get his guys assignment sound, playing with confidence, focused, always seeking to improve, etc.
Teachers mostly teach the same thing. History is history, but some teach it better than others.
The only thing you are right about is that it is all on CP. he does need to hire good coaches and that’s very debatable at this point.
But the tone starts at the top. Adams was not in complete control of the WR rotations this year, for instance, it was Pete's stupid system and seniority principles that got everyone constipated.
Same goes for OL in my opinion. Chip Kelly's system at Oregon was largely fool-proof not because of a great OL coach, but because the system was schemed and drilled to perfection at the top.
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John Ross could basically catch a screen or run a go route prior to his jr year. He was a pretty complete college wr by his jr year.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Terrible response, except for the very end. John Ross was good because he was healthy for a full year, had a great defense, a decent QB, a superb TB, and plenty of nice scoring opportunities. A good WR coach, in the sense that they can communicate effectively with kids, is better than a terrible one, for sure.RoadDawg55 said:
Absolutely idiotic post. Disagree about OL coach. That’s an important role and I would much rather have a great OL coach than an average one.Kingdome_Urinals said:OL coach and WR mean very little in the scheme of things. It's all on CP.
When have you heard of a team that hired a better WR coach and got dramatically better on offense? Never. All WR coaches do the same shit. Some just coach actually good WRs.
We got drastically better with Bush Hamdan as our WR coach. Ross came back and was much improved and it was night and day with Pettis. I don’t think it was all because of him, but it helped having him instead of Pease.
They do the same shit, but the coach needs to get his guys assignment sound, playing with confidence, focused, always seeking to improve, etc.
Teachers mostly teach the same thing. History is history, but some teach it better than others.
The only thing you are right about is that it is all on CP. he does need to hire good coaches and that’s very debatable at this point.
But the tone starts at the top. Adams was not in complete control of the WR rotations this year, for instance, it was Pete's stupid system and seniority principles that got everyone constipated.
Same goes for OL in my opinion. Chip Kelly's system at Oregon was largely fool-proof not because of a great OL coach, but because the system was schemed and drilled to perfection at the top.
How would you ever hold a coach accountable if what you said was the case?
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So I havent done a ton of research on each individual OC candidate, but why do we(?) think Todd Monken, whose offense was a complete disaster this year, would be a homerun hire but Kellen Moore, whose offense was statistically pretty damn good, would be a terrible hire?
Is it just the Boise State connection?
