Rumor about Peterman
Don't twist; just what I'm hearing.
Prediction tim: Lake won't succeed. Take all the screen shots you want. This is a bad day for Husky football.
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Maybe not. God knows UW has not had success with assistants but you are talking about Lambright and Gilby. L:ake feels different but that might also be the Doog in me.creepycoug said:Stepped down because of the vitriol on HCH.
Don't twist; just what I'm hearing.
Prediction tim: Lake won't succeed. Take all the screen shots you want. This is a bad day for Husky football.
What are your reasons for why not? I'd love to hear them. -
Hardcore is one word!!!
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Yes. That's it.TommySQC said:
Maybe not. God knows UW has not had success with assistants but you are talking about Lambright and Gilby. L:ake feels different but that might also be the Doog in me.creepycoug said:Stepped down because of the vitriol on HCH.
Don't twist; just what I'm hearing.
Prediction tim: Lake won't succeed. Take all the screen shots you want. This is a bad day for Husky football.
What are your reasons for why not? I'd love to hear them.
My reasons? Statistics. Nothing more. I've seen more beloved coordinators bash their heads into the ceiling aka the Peter Principle than I've seen anything else in any other profession.
It's a low odds bidness, and the popular coordinator rarely works out. Just numbers.
Look at how everyone shat all over Criscoballz. The only thing I can say to how that's worked out is that Oregon got lucky ... justy like they did with Chip, and just like they didn't with Helfrich, who'd been there longer than the other two put together. -
As we always said over the long duckade, no one ever went broke betting against UW doing the right thing in football. As we learned again this season as the 5 losses piled up.
So to bet that Lake fails and this is a dark day is the proper bet. We've been through enough coaches to know there is no magic formula for assistants or head coaches to take a job and be great. They have it or they don't.
I think Lake is a great face for the program and a great recruiter and we eliminate the OKG bullshit. If he gets assistants that can coach and lets them coach we should do no worse than where Pete was leading us. Probably better.
A hungry Lake is better than a burned out Petersen riding his boat to work -
SKRONG AGREE!!RaceBannon said:As we always said over the long duckade, no one ever went broke betting against UW doing the right thing in football. As we learned again this season as the 5 losses piled up.
So to bet that Lake fails and this is a dark day is the proper bet. We've been through enough coaches to know there is no magic formula for assistants or head coaches to take a job and be great. They have it or they don't.
I think Lake is a great face for the program and a great recruiter and we eliminate the OKG bullshit. If he gets assistants that can coach and lets them coach we should do no worse than where Pete was leading us. Probably better.
A hungry Lake is better than a burned out Petersen riding his boat to work -
Yeah, but once he gets paid, Lake will probably buy a boat. So there's that.RaceBannon said:As we always said over the long duckade, no one ever went broke betting against UW doing the right thing in football. As we learned again this season as the 5 losses piled up.
So to bet that Lake fails and this is a dark day is the proper bet. We've been through enough coaches to know there is no magic formula for assistants or head coaches to take a job and be great. They have it or they don't.
I think Lake is a great face for the program and a great recruiter and we eliminate the OKG bullshit. If he gets assistants that can coach and lets them coach we should do no worse than where Pete was leading us. Probably better.
A hungry Lake is better than a burned out Petersen riding his boat to work -
Lake already has a boat. It's just a matter of getting a bigger one now.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but once he gets paid, Lake will probably buy a boat. So there's that.RaceBannon said:As we always said over the long duckade, no one ever went broke betting against UW doing the right thing in football. As we learned again this season as the 5 losses piled up.
So to bet that Lake fails and this is a dark day is the proper bet. We've been through enough coaches to know there is no magic formula for assistants or head coaches to take a job and be great. They have it or they don't.
I think Lake is a great face for the program and a great recruiter and we eliminate the OKG bullshit. If he gets assistants that can coach and lets them coach we should do no worse than where Pete was leading us. Probably better.
A hungry Lake is better than a burned out Petersen riding his boat to work -
Ok!!!!UWhuskytskeet said:Hardcore is one word!!!
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Good poont.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Lake already has a boat. It's just a matter of getting a bigger one now.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but once he gets paid, Lake will probably buy a boat. So there's that.RaceBannon said:As we always said over the long duckade, no one ever went broke betting against UW doing the right thing in football. As we learned again this season as the 5 losses piled up.
So to bet that Lake fails and this is a dark day is the proper bet. We've been through enough coaches to know there is no magic formula for assistants or head coaches to take a job and be great. They have it or they don't.
I think Lake is a great face for the program and a great recruiter and we eliminate the OKG bullshit. If he gets assistants that can coach and lets them coach we should do no worse than where Pete was leading us. Probably better.
A hungry Lake is better than a burned out Petersen riding his boat to work
If he gets one with an espresso maker on board, you're? fucked. -
LIke buttcheeks?UWhuskytskeet said:Hardcore is one word!!!
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RaceBannon said:
As we always said over the long duckade, no one ever went broke betting against UW doing the right thing in football. As we learned again this season as the 5 losses piled up.
So to bet that Lake fails and this is a dark day is the proper bet. We've been through enough coaches to know there is no magic formula for assistants or head coaches to take a job and be great. They have it or they don't.
I think Lake is a great face for the program and a great recruiter and we eliminate the OKG bullshit. If he gets assistants that can coach and lets them coach we should do no worse than where Pete was leading us. Probably better.
A hungry Lake is better than a burned out Petersen riding his boat to work
The thing that concerns me about coach Jim Lake is that he will have no qualms when it comes to recruiting guys who could/should be in prison. A return to the glory days of WASHINGTON.
Then again, Chris Petersen gave us an annual shitpumping so the bar is very high.
Also, the last coach named Jim was Lambright. Another defensive assistant who took over for a quitter and oversaw the slippage of mighty WASHINGTON football. -
Congrats on lasting three days after an Apple Cup before talking shit.Cougarfs said:RaceBannon said:As we always said over the long duckade, no one ever went broke betting against UW doing the right thing in football. As we learned again this season as the 5 losses piled up.
So to bet that Lake fails and this is a dark day is the proper bet. We've been through enough coaches to know there is no magic formula for assistants or head coaches to take a job and be great. They have it or they don't.
I think Lake is a great face for the program and a great recruiter and we eliminate the OKG bullshit. If he gets assistants that can coach and lets them coach we should do no worse than where Pete was leading us. Probably better.
A hungry Lake is better than a burned out Petersen riding his boat to work
The thing that concerns me about coach Jim Lake is that he will have no qualms when it comes to recruiting guys who could/should be in prison. A return to the glory days of WASHINGTON.
Then again, Chris Petersen gave us an annual shitpumping so the bar is very high.
Also, the last coach named Jim was Lambright. Another defensive assistant who took over for a quitter and oversaw the slippage of mighty WASHINGTON football. -
This.RaceBannon said:As we always said over the long duckade, no one ever went broke betting against UW doing the right thing in football. As we learned again this season as the 5 losses piled up.
So to bet that Lake fails and this is a dark day is the proper bet. We've been through enough coaches to know there is no magic formula for assistants or head coaches to take a job and be great. They have it or they don't.
I think Lake is a great face for the program and a great recruiter and we eliminate the OKG bullshit. If he gets assistants that can coach and lets them coach we should do no worse than where Pete was leading us. Probably better.
A hungry Lake is better than a burned out Petersen riding his boat to work
If Pete wasn't willing make the paradigm shift on offense, we were doomed anyhow.
Lake will fail until he doesn't. But considering our last 2 internal coordinator hires (albeit those were under duress) bombed, perhaps it's our turn to be better lucky than good. -
GreenRiverGatorz said:
Lake already has a boat. It's just a matter of getting a bigger one now.creepycoug said:
Yeah, but once he gets paid, Lake will probably buy a boat. So there's that.RaceBannon said:As we always said over the long duckade, no one ever went broke betting against UW doing the right thing in football. As we learned again this season as the 5 losses piled up.
So to bet that Lake fails and this is a dark day is the proper bet. We've been through enough coaches to know there is no magic formula for assistants or head coaches to take a job and be great. They have it or they don't.
I think Lake is a great face for the program and a great recruiter and we eliminate the OKG bullshit. If he gets assistants that can coach and lets them coach we should do no worse than where Pete was leading us. Probably better.
A hungry Lake is better than a burned out Petersen riding his boat to work
Peterman on his boat
Jimmy on his boat. -
What stats are you pointing to? The top 2 current head coaches in the Pac - Shaw and Wittingham - were both coordinators before taking over at each of their respective schools. There are only and handful of "can't miss" hires. Would we be in a better place in terms of future success if we got some up and coming Group of 5 HC over lake? I'm not sure I buy that.creepycoug said:
Yes. That's it.TommySQC said:
Maybe not. God knows UW has not had success with assistants but you are talking about Lambright and Gilby. L:ake feels different but that might also be the Doog in me.creepycoug said:Stepped down because of the vitriol on HCH.
Don't twist; just what I'm hearing.
Prediction tim: Lake won't succeed. Take all the screen shots you want. This is a bad day for Husky football.
What are your reasons for why not? I'd love to hear them.
My reasons? Statistics. Nothing more. I've seen more beloved coordinators bash their heads into the ceiling aka the Peter Principle than I've seen anything else in any other profession.
It's a low odds bidness, and the popular coordinator rarely works out. Just numbers.
Look at how everyone shat all over Criscoballz. The only thing I can say to how that's worked out is that Oregon got lucky ... justy like they did with Chip, and just like they didn't with Helfrich, who'd been there longer than the other two put together. -
The simple odds are that in any given year there are a lot more coaching fails than successes bc that's how the odds are stacked to begin with. Odds are that Jimmy fails simply because of that. Hopefully for us? he beats the odds.
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That OKG bullshit was bullshit from day one. If Lake starts recruiting some people with an questionable backgrounds I'll be happy.RaceBannon said:As we always said over the long duckade, no one ever went broke betting against UW doing the right thing in football. As we learned again this season as the 5 losses piled up.
So to bet that Lake fails and this is a dark day is the proper bet. We've been through enough coaches to know there is no magic formula for assistants or head coaches to take a job and be great. They have it or they don't.
I think Lake is a great face for the program and a great recruiter and we eliminate the OKG bullshit. If he gets assistants that can coach and lets them coach we should do no worse than where Pete was leading us. Probably better.
A hungry Lake is better than a burned out Petersen riding his boat to work -
LEAVEImnotverygoodatthis said:
That OKG bullshit was bullshit from day one. If Lake starts recruiting some people with an questionable backgrounds I'll be happy.RaceBannon said:As we always said over the long duckade, no one ever went broke betting against UW doing the right thing in football. As we learned again this season as the 5 losses piled up.
So to bet that Lake fails and this is a dark day is the proper bet. We've been through enough coaches to know there is no magic formula for assistants or head coaches to take a job and be great. They have it or they don't.
I think Lake is a great face for the program and a great recruiter and we eliminate the OKG bullshit. If he gets assistants that can coach and lets them coach we should do no worse than where Pete was leading us. Probably better.
A hungry Lake is better than a burned out Petersen riding his boat to work -
Just @UW_Doog_Bot post. I already answered this question Yella! Just the numbers.YellowSnow said:
What stats are you pointing to? The top 2 current head coaches in the Pac - Shaw and Wittingham - were both coordinators before taking over at each of their respective schools. There are only and handful of "can't miss" hires. Would we be in a better place in terms of future success if we got some up and coming Group of 5 HC over lake? I'm not sure I buy that.creepycoug said:
Yes. That's it.TommySQC said:
Maybe not. God knows UW has not had success with assistants but you are talking about Lambright and Gilby. L:ake feels different but that might also be the Doog in me.creepycoug said:Stepped down because of the vitriol on HCH.
Don't twist; just what I'm hearing.
Prediction tim: Lake won't succeed. Take all the screen shots you want. This is a bad day for Husky football.
What are your reasons for why not? I'd love to hear them.
My reasons? Statistics. Nothing more. I've seen more beloved coordinators bash their heads into the ceiling aka the Peter Principle than I've seen anything else in any other profession.
It's a low odds bidness, and the popular coordinator rarely works out. Just numbers.
Look at how everyone shat all over Criscoballz. The only thing I can say to how that's worked out is that Oregon got lucky ... justy like they did with Chip, and just like they didn't with Helfrich, who'd been there longer than the other two put together.
For your Shaw and Wittingham, I can name 20 off the top of my head that turned ugly.
Hiring the right guy is hard. Hiring a shit-show, the numbers would suggest, is easy as fuck.
You? just lost a guy who made UW something out of very little and hired someone else. No insurance company would ever underwrite this thing. Add in the qualitative factor that it's some popular slick "the players choice" dude named "Jimmy" who's best known for DBU ... it has "fail" written all over it. But that's just me.
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We're fuct.
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Harv is slipping.Imnotverygoodatthis said:
That OKG bullshit was bullshit from day one. If Lake starts recruiting some people with an questionable backgrounds I'll be happy.RaceBannon said:As we always said over the long duckade, no one ever went broke betting against UW doing the right thing in football. As we learned again this season as the 5 losses piled up.
So to bet that Lake fails and this is a dark day is the proper bet. We've been through enough coaches to know there is no magic formula for assistants or head coaches to take a job and be great. They have it or they don't.
I think Lake is a great face for the program and a great recruiter and we eliminate the OKG bullshit. If he gets assistants that can coach and lets them coach we should do no worse than where Pete was leading us. Probably better.
A hungry Lake is better than a burned out Petersen riding his boat to work -
Alls I'm saying is we're just as likely to fail with Lake as an up and comer HC from somewhere else. Statistically there's no difference.creepycoug said:
Just @UW_Doog_Bot post. I already answered this question Yella! Just the numbers.YellowSnow said:
What stats are you pointing to? The top 2 current head coaches in the Pac - Shaw and Wittingham - were both coordinators before taking over at each of their respective schools. There are only and handful of "can't miss" hires. Would we be in a better place in terms of future success if we got some up and coming Group of 5 HC over lake? I'm not sure I buy that.creepycoug said:
Yes. That's it.TommySQC said:
Maybe not. God knows UW has not had success with assistants but you are talking about Lambright and Gilby. L:ake feels different but that might also be the Doog in me.creepycoug said:Stepped down because of the vitriol on HCH.
Don't twist; just what I'm hearing.
Prediction tim: Lake won't succeed. Take all the screen shots you want. This is a bad day for Husky football.
What are your reasons for why not? I'd love to hear them.
My reasons? Statistics. Nothing more. I've seen more beloved coordinators bash their heads into the ceiling aka the Peter Principle than I've seen anything else in any other profession.
It's a low odds bidness, and the popular coordinator rarely works out. Just numbers.
Look at how everyone shat all over Criscoballz. The only thing I can say to how that's worked out is that Oregon got lucky ... justy like they did with Chip, and just like they didn't with Helfrich, who'd been there longer than the other two put together.
For your Shaw and Wittingham, I can name 20 off the top of my head that turned ugly.
Hiring the right guy is hard. Hiring a shit-show, the numbers would suggest, is easy as fuck.
You? just lost a guy who made UW something out of very little and hired someone else. No insurance company would ever underwrite this thing. Add in the qualitative factor that it's some popular slick "the players choice" dude named "Jimmy" who's best known for DBU ... it has "fail" written all over it. But that's just me. -
Don't take creep too seriously.
He was betting on the Cuog in the AC as recently as last season. -
There are like 130 D1 coaches. About five of them are good. If you're suggesting the odds of Lake not being one of the five are high, I'd say I agree. If you're suggesting that, knowing keeping Petersen is off the table, hiring somebody other than either Lake or one of those five (impossible) provides improved odds of a sixth good coach joining the fraternity, I'd like to see the numbers that prove it.
Petersen left. So the question is now what? Lake's as big of a coin toss as most anybody else would be. -
Hurtful.dflea said:Don't take creep too seriously.
He was betting on the Cuog in the AC as recently as last season.
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That's probably right.YellowSnow said:
Alls I'm saying is we're just as likely to fail with Lake as an up and comer HC from somewhere else. Statistically there's no difference.creepycoug said:
Just @UW_Doog_Bot post. I already answered this question Yella! Just the numbers.YellowSnow said:
What stats are you pointing to? The top 2 current head coaches in the Pac - Shaw and Wittingham - were both coordinators before taking over at each of their respective schools. There are only and handful of "can't miss" hires. Would we be in a better place in terms of future success if we got some up and coming Group of 5 HC over lake? I'm not sure I buy that.creepycoug said:
Yes. That's it.TommySQC said:
Maybe not. God knows UW has not had success with assistants but you are talking about Lambright and Gilby. L:ake feels different but that might also be the Doog in me.creepycoug said:Stepped down because of the vitriol on HCH.
Don't twist; just what I'm hearing.
Prediction tim: Lake won't succeed. Take all the screen shots you want. This is a bad day for Husky football.
What are your reasons for why not? I'd love to hear them.
My reasons? Statistics. Nothing more. I've seen more beloved coordinators bash their heads into the ceiling aka the Peter Principle than I've seen anything else in any other profession.
It's a low odds bidness, and the popular coordinator rarely works out. Just numbers.
Look at how everyone shat all over Criscoballz. The only thing I can say to how that's worked out is that Oregon got lucky ... justy like they did with Chip, and just like they didn't with Helfrich, who'd been there longer than the other two put together.
For your Shaw and Wittingham, I can name 20 off the top of my head that turned ugly.
Hiring the right guy is hard. Hiring a shit-show, the numbers would suggest, is easy as fuck.
You? just lost a guy who made UW something out of very little and hired someone else. No insurance company would ever underwrite this thing. Add in the qualitative factor that it's some popular slick "the players choice" dude named "Jimmy" who's best known for DBU ... it has "fail" written all over it. But that's just me.
I feel like you're distinguishing the ways you're going to lose to the house in Vegas. I think Mrs. Yella is going to react with the same negative emotions whether you fuck the pooch on the black jack or craps table.
And, in all fairness, this is where I have to axe: where's the skepticism levied on Crisco? The #1 thing both doods represented when is recruiting chops. -
Lovely reasoning.1to392831weretaken said:There are like 130 D1 coaches. About five of them are good. If you're suggesting the odds of Lake not being one of the five are high, I'd say I agree. If you're suggesting that, knowing keeping Petersen is off the table, hiring somebody other than either Lake or one of those five (impossible) provides improved odds of a sixth good coach joining the fraternity, I'd like to see the numbers that prove it.
Petersen left. So the question is now what? Lake's as big of a coin toss as most anybody else would be.
I used pretty much the same when saying that Cristo wasn't a bad hire and that his recruiting acumen would be a good thing for a program like Oregon. I was pretty much mocked incessantly for it.
I've come for my penance. When Oregon hired Crisco, what was it they should have done instead? Because this feels an awful lot like that hire, only my boyfriend had more experience than Lake. -
I'm not a gambler, Tio Creep. Don't have the stomach for it.creepycoug said:
That's probably right.YellowSnow said:
Alls I'm saying is we're just as likely to fail with Lake as an up and comer HC from somewhere else. Statistically there's no difference.creepycoug said:
Just @UW_Doog_Bot post. I already answered this question Yella! Just the numbers.YellowSnow said:
What stats are you pointing to? The top 2 current head coaches in the Pac - Shaw and Wittingham - were both coordinators before taking over at each of their respective schools. There are only and handful of "can't miss" hires. Would we be in a better place in terms of future success if we got some up and coming Group of 5 HC over lake? I'm not sure I buy that.creepycoug said:
Yes. That's it.TommySQC said:
Maybe not. God knows UW has not had success with assistants but you are talking about Lambright and Gilby. L:ake feels different but that might also be the Doog in me.creepycoug said:Stepped down because of the vitriol on HCH.
Don't twist; just what I'm hearing.
Prediction tim: Lake won't succeed. Take all the screen shots you want. This is a bad day for Husky football.
What are your reasons for why not? I'd love to hear them.
My reasons? Statistics. Nothing more. I've seen more beloved coordinators bash their heads into the ceiling aka the Peter Principle than I've seen anything else in any other profession.
It's a low odds bidness, and the popular coordinator rarely works out. Just numbers.
Look at how everyone shat all over Criscoballz. The only thing I can say to how that's worked out is that Oregon got lucky ... justy like they did with Chip, and just like they didn't with Helfrich, who'd been there longer than the other two put together.
For your Shaw and Wittingham, I can name 20 off the top of my head that turned ugly.
Hiring the right guy is hard. Hiring a shit-show, the numbers would suggest, is easy as fuck.
You? just lost a guy who made UW something out of very little and hired someone else. No insurance company would ever underwrite this thing. Add in the qualitative factor that it's some popular slick "the players choice" dude named "Jimmy" who's best known for DBU ... it has "fail" written all over it. But that's just me.
I feel like you're distinguishing the ways you're going to lose to the house in Vegas. I think Mrs. Yella is going to react with the same negative emotions whether you fuck the pooch on the black jack or craps table.
And, in all fairness, this is where I have to axe: where's the skepticism levied on Crisco? The #1 thing both doods represented when is recruiting chops.
I never criticized or mocked the Mario hire. I said there wasn't enough evidence suggest whether he likely succeed or fail. -
Yes, there was. The fact that he wasn't Nick Saban and the odds. That's always it.YellowSnow said:
I'm not a gambler, Tio Creep. Don't have the stomach for it.creepycoug said:
That's probably right.YellowSnow said:
Alls I'm saying is we're just as likely to fail with Lake as an up and comer HC from somewhere else. Statistically there's no difference.creepycoug said:
Just @UW_Doog_Bot post. I already answered this question Yella! Just the numbers.YellowSnow said:
What stats are you pointing to? The top 2 current head coaches in the Pac - Shaw and Wittingham - were both coordinators before taking over at each of their respective schools. There are only and handful of "can't miss" hires. Would we be in a better place in terms of future success if we got some up and coming Group of 5 HC over lake? I'm not sure I buy that.creepycoug said:
Yes. That's it.TommySQC said:
Maybe not. God knows UW has not had success with assistants but you are talking about Lambright and Gilby. L:ake feels different but that might also be the Doog in me.creepycoug said:Stepped down because of the vitriol on HCH.
Don't twist; just what I'm hearing.
Prediction tim: Lake won't succeed. Take all the screen shots you want. This is a bad day for Husky football.
What are your reasons for why not? I'd love to hear them.
My reasons? Statistics. Nothing more. I've seen more beloved coordinators bash their heads into the ceiling aka the Peter Principle than I've seen anything else in any other profession.
It's a low odds bidness, and the popular coordinator rarely works out. Just numbers.
Look at how everyone shat all over Criscoballz. The only thing I can say to how that's worked out is that Oregon got lucky ... justy like they did with Chip, and just like they didn't with Helfrich, who'd been there longer than the other two put together.
For your Shaw and Wittingham, I can name 20 off the top of my head that turned ugly.
Hiring the right guy is hard. Hiring a shit-show, the numbers would suggest, is easy as fuck.
You? just lost a guy who made UW something out of very little and hired someone else. No insurance company would ever underwrite this thing. Add in the qualitative factor that it's some popular slick "the players choice" dude named "Jimmy" who's best known for DBU ... it has "fail" written all over it. But that's just me.
I feel like you're distinguishing the ways you're going to lose to the house in Vegas. I think Mrs. Yella is going to react with the same negative emotions whether you fuck the pooch on the black jack or craps table.
And, in all fairness, this is where I have to axe: where's the skepticism levied on Crisco? The #1 thing both doods represented when is recruiting chops.
I never criticized or mocked the Mario hire. I said there wasn't enough evidence suggest whether he likely succeed or fail.
I think I'm often misunderstood on this point. I defended Mario because (1) recruiting chops (clearly established and now proven) + (2) roll the dice.
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Mario had a horrible head coach record
He really isn't a comp. I was messing with @MikeSeaver
I don't think Cristobal has anything to do with Lake
And all Cristobal has done is not quite match Rick unless he wins Friday and in the Rose Bowl
Still too early
