Pre-Apple Cup 2019 Pole: Fire or Keep Petersen
Pre-Apple Cup 2019 Pole: Fire or Keep Petersen 71 votes
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KeepTick, tick, tick...
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KeepPeople that haven't been to a league game in the past 10 years don't get to vote.
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KeepI guess the basis for this thread is that there are lots of doog rallying cries on Twitter bemoaning how crazy people are for wanting Pete fired. I don't think anyone really has called for him to be canned after 2019, perhaps less than 10 people total? 20? He needs to make sweeping changes to the O, get Kawasaki back to DC, and probably hire Gerald. He gets at least another year from me, but a huge chunk of the 2016-2018 good will has dissipated.
The fandom seems fractured into different opinion groups:
1 - Fire Petersen after 2019. You're done with him.
2 - "Be passionate! Criticism of millionaire coaches is ok! This team is too talented to lose like this!"
3 - "You're insane, don't you remember how awful Ty or Sark or Gilby or Rick or whoever was. You're not a true Husky fan! You're hurting recruiting by your criticism!"
4 - "As long as we're competing for Rose Bowls every few years, I'm cool with it"
5 - Dawgman types, mouth-drooling doogs who only want to cheer on the lads and are just genuine weirdos. -
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Fuck off, Rowboat. I don't need to physically go to games to have an opinion on the product or the fact that Pete makes the same mistakes over and over again. Not going to games doesn't make me any less of a fan.YellowSnow said:People that haven't been to a league game in the past 10 years don't get to vote.
Am I expecting Petersen to have an epiphany that leads to some pardigm shift? No, I don't. If it happens, I'll be pleasantly surprised. It'll be a fucking Christmas miracle. -
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I’m in the same row boat as @Gladstone. Pete gets another year but the goodwill is gone and I kinda hate him now.Gladstone said:I guess the basis for this thread is that there are lots of doog rallying cries on Twitter bemoaning how crazy people are for wanting Pete fired. I don't think anyone really has called for him to be canned after 2019, perhaps less than 10 people total? 20? He needs to make sweeping changes to the O, get Kawasaki back to DC, and probably hire Gerald. He gets at least another year from me, but a huge chunk of the 2016-2018 good will has dissipated.
The fandom seems fractured into different opinion groups:
1 - Fire Petersen after 2019. You're done with him.
2 - "Be passionate! Criticism of millionaire coaches is ok! This team is too talented to lose like this!"
3 - "You're insane, don't you remember how awful Ty or Sark or Gilby or Rick or whoever was. You're not a true Husky fan! You're hurting recruiting by your criticism!"
4 - "As long as we're competing for Rose Bowls every few years, I'm cool with it"
5 - Dawgman types, mouth-drooling doogs who only want to cheer on the lads and are just genuine weirdos. -
FireYou guys are more tolerant than me. I don't kinda hate him; I really hate him. Can't even listen to his pressers and interviews. Fuck that bullshit. That's all it is any more, lip service and bullshit.
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FireThis board has gone soft. Demanding the firing of coaches for not going 15-0 is what we do.
It’s something that’s easy to call for cause it isn’t going to happen. Long run odds are that wanting him fired is the correct call, and if proven wrong well then that’s fun and awesome. -
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I stand with @whlinder.whlinder said:This board has gone soft. Demanding the firing of coaches for not going 15-0 is what we do.
It’s something that’s easy to call for cause it isn’t going to happen. Long run odds are that wanting him fired is the correct call, and if proven wrong well then that’s fun and awesome. -
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CarefulPurpleBaze said:
I stand with @whlinder.whlinder said:This board has gone soft. Demanding the firing of coaches for not going 15-0 is what we do.
It’s something that’s easy to call for cause it isn’t going to happen. Long run odds are that wanting him fired is the correct call, and if proven wrong well then that’s fun and awesome. -
FireI just want to buy Peterman's boat on the cheap.
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I bet your hate sex with Petersen will be super hot.PurpleBaze said:You guys are more tolerant than me. I don't kinda hate him; I really hate him. Can't even listen to his pressers and interviews. Fuck that bullshit. That's all it is any more, lip service and bullshit.
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Probably, but his tight little asshole couldn't handle my ME cock. I WOOD wreck him, much like that cartoon train going through that tunnel.Doog_de_Jour said:
I bet your hate sex with Petersen will be super hot.PurpleBaze said:You guys are more tolerant than me. I don't kinda hate him; I really hate him. Can't even listen to his pressers and interviews. Fuck that bullshit. That's all it is any more, lip service and bullshit.
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KeepLook, if anyone has a right to be angry about Petersen’s implosion it’s ME! I adored that man. Besides his BRB, JO silver fox appeal, he guided the team back to Pasadena, and I will forever be thankful to him for getting it so I could go to my first Rose Bowl. For that he’s earned another year, and if I’m a Doog for saying that, so be it.
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They say your job hunt begins the moment you land a new position. If I were Cohen I would start shopping around. Pete’s definitely on notice, regardless of the AC outcome. -
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Relax, man.PurpleBaze said:
Fuck off, Rowboat. I don't need to physically go to games to have an opinion on the product or the fact that Pete makes the same mistakes over and over again. Not going to games doesn't make me any less of a fan.YellowSnow said:People that haven't been to a league game in the past 10 years don't get to vote.
Am I expecting Petersen to have an epiphany that leads to some pardigm shift? No, I don't. If it happens, I'll be pleasantly surprised. It'll be a fucking Christmas miracle.
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I laffed!YellowSnow said:
Relax, man.PurpleBaze said:
Fuck off, Rowboat. I don't need to physically go to games to have an opinion on the product or the fact that Pete makes the same mistakes over and over again. Not going to games doesn't make me any less of a fan.YellowSnow said:People that haven't been to a league game in the past 10 years don't get to vote.
Am I expecting Petersen to have an epiphany that leads to some pardigm shift? No, I don't. If it happens, I'll be pleasantly surprised. It'll be a fucking Christmas miracle. -
KeepUnpopular (around here) opinion:
I'm not a win at all cost guy. If I wanted to see "my guys" lie, cheat, and steal their way to a championship, I'd just skip football altogether and follow politics. Although I'm sure there's at least some amount of grey (or beyond) area travelling to avoid being completely noncompetitive, I like that the staff runs a relatively clean program. I like not having a Louis CK moment once or twice per season and finding out that the guy I was just cheering for Saturday beat the shit out of his girlfriend, stole some lady's purse, or raped a sorority girl earlier in the season, and I'm just now hearing about it. I like that Petersen tends to genuinely care about the players' futures and well being. Call me a pussy, but that kind of stuff gives me the warm tinglies. Hire Urbs, and Washington's in the playoffs again by '21. And I'll be watching something else.
So it's with no small amount of cognitive dissonance that I'm starting to haaaaaaate Chris Petersen. I hate his fucking clock management. I hate his fucking lack of preparation two or three times per season. I hate his fucking squandering of talent. I hate how fucking tedious it is to watch every loss and every win. I hate how every time this team plays somebody with even slightly more talent, I have ZERO hope of victory. Zero. By the end of last season, I was already starting to hate-watch games, but at least I was mostly hate-watching wins. There were a lot of markers of program stability: Every loss is close, no blowouts, solid defense always, excellent fundamentals like tackling, don't give up big plays, don't lose consecutive games, don't lose after a bye, solid upper tier recruiting, players improving every year in the program, a steady stream of NFLers coming out of the program, focus on the trenches, etc. That stability suggested that a ridiculously frustrating ten wins was the floor, and it seemed insane to complain about that, frustrating or not.
This season, every single one of those markers of stability have been ratfucked away. All of the goodwill and benefit of the doubt have been thrown in the trash. Program momentum is a large number with a negative sign in front. It makes all that tedium and annoyance and all of those warts all the more awful: "You used to be a shitty game day coach who's perhaps the best Sunday through Friday coach in the country, so the wins come anyway. Now you're a shitty game day coach who loses to Colorado and Cal. It's not worth it anymore."
I want a coach who does things the right way, so I don't want to fire Chris Petersen. But I also want to win, and I'm increasingly thinking Chris Petersen isn't the guy for that. So I'm kind of at a loss. I'm getting a lot more work done around the house on Saturdays now, though, so at least I've got that going for me. Which is nice. -
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I 100% AGREE with this. POTW.1to392831weretaken said:Unpopular (around here) opinion:
I'm not a win at all cost guy. If I wanted to see "my guys" lie, cheat, and steal their way to a championship, I'd just skip football altogether and follow politics. Although I'm sure there's at least some amount of grey (or beyond) area travelling to avoid being completely noncompetitive, I like that the staff runs a relatively clean program. I like not having a Louis CK moment once or twice per season and finding out that the guy I was just cheering for Saturday beat the shit out of his girlfriend, stole some lady's purse, or raped a sorority girl earlier in the season, and I'm just now hearing about it. I like that Petersen tends to genuinely care about the players' futures and well being. Call me a pussy, but that kind of stuff gives me the warm tinglies. Hire Urbs, and Washington's in the playoffs again by '21. And I'll be watching something else.
So it's with no small amount of cognitive dissonance that I'm starting to haaaaaaate Chris Petersen. I hate his fucking clock management. I hate his fucking lack of preparation two or three times per season. I hate his fucking squandering of talent. I hate how fucking tedious it is to watch every loss and every win. I hate how every time this team plays somebody with even slightly more talent, I have ZERO hope of victory. Zero. By the end of last season, I was already starting to hate-watch games, but at least I was mostly hate-watching wins. There were a lot of markers of program stability: Every loss is close, no blowouts, solid defense always, excellent fundamentals like tackling, don't give up big plays, don't lose consecutive games, don't lose after a bye, solid upper tier recruiting, players improving every year in the program, a steady stream of NFLers coming out of the program, focus on the trenches, etc. That stability suggested that a ridiculously frustrating ten wins was the floor, and it seemed insane to complain about that, frustrating or not.
This season, every single one of those markers of stability have been ratfucked away. All of the goodwill and benefit of the doubt have been thrown in the trash. Program momentum is a large number with a negative sign in front. It makes all that tedium and annoyance and all of those warts all the more awful: "You used to be a shitty game day coach who's perhaps the best Sunday through Friday coach in the country, so the wins come anyway. Now you're a shitty game day coach who loses to Colorado and Cal. It's not worth it anymore."
I want a coach who does things the right way, so I don't want to fire Chris Petersen. But I also want to win, and I'm increasingly thinking Chris Petersen isn't the guy for that. So I'm kind of at a loss. I'm getting a lot more work done around the house on Saturdays now, though, so at least I've got that going for me. Which is nice. -
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Yeah that would have been a fantastic twist. Oh well.Postal91 said: -
KeepHis seat is ice cold
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FireI've seen enough. Too much of an uptight pussy. And the whitest cracker I've ever seen.
I am known for being angry around Thanksgiving.
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FireLotta support for Chry Petingham in this thread.
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No one is debating the efficacy of the pole in getting him fired. Every person here knows Cohen won't touch him. This is just a pulse check.sonics1993 said:His seat is ice cold
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My pulse is quickened.Gladstone said:
No one is debating the efficacy of the pole in getting him fired. Every person here knows Cohen won't touch him. This is just a pulse check.sonics1993 said:His seat is ice cold
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KeepI liked you guys during the Sark years. A foolish asshole who drives you nuts and entertains me is what I need again.
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Odds are Pete probably isn't going to be Dabo and we aren't leveling up to Clemson. But I'd say for the moment, it's longer odds that his replacement would be an improvement. There just aren't that many infallible, walk on water coaches out there.whlinder said:This board has gone soft. Demanding the firing of coaches for not going 15-0 is what we do.
It’s something that’s easy to call for cause it isn’t going to happen. Long run odds are that wanting him fired is the correct call, and if proven wrong well then that’s fun and awesome.
Furthermore, our own history suggest, if you give a coach who's had some good success 17 years they can get it done, eventually -
Keepfire him after he loses the AC
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@firecohentooGladstone said:
No one is debating the efficacy of the pole in getting him fired. Every person here knows Cohen won't touch him. This is just a pulse check.sonics1993 said:His seat is ice cold
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KeepIf they don't win 10 regular season games next year, including beating Michigan, I want him fired.
