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The Irony of Chris Petersen
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Agree with all that except with Browning he could have at least brought in a JC transfer to offer competition to Browning and offer a wake up call to his sense of entitlement.RoadDawg55 said:
He didn’t have anyone better. That’s still his fault, but you don’t make a change just to make a change. I think it would be pretty hard to think Browning was going to flame out like he did after his first two years in the program.DerekJohnson said:
A man who willingly goes four years with Browning and does nothing to rectify it lacks self-awareness. Right now it's hazy whether he realizes that he is the problem and will have the humility to remove himself from the equation.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
I think he’s aware he’s the problem. Whether he can completely remove himself from meddling is a fair question. Same for whether he can make the right hire. -
In 1988 I wanted don James fires. In 2019 I want Chris Petersen fired. The difference is in 1988 I thought firing the coach would lead to good things because Washington was serious about football. Now I think it will likely just result in more mediocrity and shit seasons, but I’ll enjoy a new face on the sidelines for awhile
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Will he still boat to work and drink fancy coffee?godawgst said:
Do you think he honestly doesn't know his offense has major problems?DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
The vast majority of highly successful driven people are keenly aware of everything around them.
I can see a scenario where he thought the issues were at the qb position with Browning the last 4 years.
This year showed him it goes beyond that.
Strausser couldn't recruit and he made the change
Pease couldn't coach or recruit and he made the change
Lubick checked out last year and he made the change.
Pete will make the change at OC in the next month. The question becomes does he hire someone and give them full reign and total control of the offense, or we get another guy who will just run what Pete wants. -
The only program I can think of who fired their coach after 3 straight 10 year wins was Solich at Nebraska (who wasn't Tom Osbourne and that was his crime) and 20 years later they are still paying for that.
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Maybe, but any Jc guy worth a shit isn’t going to a school with an established starter. So we probably would bring in a shitty QB worse than Browning and nothing would actually change.DerekJohnson said:
Agree with all that except with Browning he could have at least brought in a JC transfer to offer competition to Browning and offer a wake up call to his sense of entitlement.RoadDawg55 said:
He didn’t have anyone better. That’s still his fault, but you don’t make a change just to make a change. I think it would be pretty hard to think Browning was going to flame out like he did after his first two years in the program.DerekJohnson said:
A man who willingly goes four years with Browning and does nothing to rectify it lacks self-awareness. Right now it's hazy whether he realizes that he is the problem and will have the humility to remove himself from the equation.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
I think he’s aware he’s the problem. Whether he can completely remove himself from meddling is a fair question. Same for whether he can make the right hire. -
Pretty much this, if Pete's either not self aware enough to fire Bush and let go of the offense or to stubborn to then fire his ass. That's it.Emoterman said:
It is stated as fact that the AD reads this board. The logic of "Pete is THE problem with the offense" is almost bulletproof and well reasoned and argued on here. If whoever is reading this board isn't at least running this concept up the flagpole as they scramble for answers that would be criminal.DerekJohnson said:
A man who willingly goes four years with Browning and does nothing to rectify it lacks self-awareness. Right now it's hazy whether he realizes that he is the problem and will have the humility to remove himself from the equation.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
Hopefully Pete's boss essentially takes the decision away from him; let go or get let go. -
With a weak AF OOC and all of the talent on this roster we are ranked 123rd in PPG. That's not "execution" Pete. That's your system.
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In conference we are averaging 25 ppg and if you remove the Arizona game it's only 21 ppg. That's in this dreck fucking conference.
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It’s terrible. Everyone hangs 35+ on Oregon State and Colorado except us.UW_Doog_Bot said:In conference we are averaging 25 ppg and if you remove the Arizona game it's only 21 ppg. That's in this dreck fucking conference.
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Idiotic takePurpleJ said:
He didn’t have a qb in any of the years after that either. There was one difference in 2016. Guess what it was.Tequilla said:
He didn’t have a QB in 2014 and a true Frosh in 2015PurpleJ said:
He was at that point in 2015 and half fixed it with the consultant play, then reverted to dumbfuckery by keeping Smith around. He doubled down with Bush.Tequilla said:
Everything @godawgst said is spot onDerekJohnson said:
If he knew that he would have addressed it far sooner.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
The work done in the offseason was an effort of “I’m going to step in and we’ll figure out the right changes to make ...
Instead of getting better it got worse ... that’s not lost on successful people
Consultants get paid big bucks because leaders realize they don’t have all the answers
Pete is now at that point in his career
He can change. Everyone says so.
Try again
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Didn’t miss the point at allDerekJohnson said:
I agree on the above but you missed the point.Tequilla said:
Everything @godawgst said is spot onDerekJohnson said:
If he knew that he would have addressed it far sooner.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
The work done in the offseason was an effort of “I’m going to step in and we’ll figure out the right changes to make ...
Instead of getting better it got worse ... that’s not lost on successful people
Consultants get paid big bucks because leaders realize they don’t have all the answers
Pete is now at that point in his career
Your premise is that Pete has no knowledge of what and where the problems are
My experience is most successful people are often very aware of what is going on around them and are often the most self aware
It’s possible that Pete isn’t self aware ... we will know how aware he is by the changes he makes in the offseason -
Was there ever a QB on the roster better than Browning?DerekJohnson said:
A man who willingly goes four years with Browning and does nothing to rectify it lacks self-awareness. Right now it's hazy whether he realizes that he is the problem and will have the humility to remove himself from the equation.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
When he put Haener in against Cal how did that work out? -
1) JC players don’t show up at UWDerekJohnson said:
Agree with all that except with Browning he could have at least brought in a JC transfer to offer competition to Browning and offer a wake up call to his sense of entitlement.RoadDawg55 said:
He didn’t have anyone better. That’s still his fault, but you don’t make a change just to make a change. I think it would be pretty hard to think Browning was going to flame out like he did after his first two years in the program.DerekJohnson said:
A man who willingly goes four years with Browning and does nothing to rectify it lacks self-awareness. Right now it's hazy whether he realizes that he is the problem and will have the humility to remove himself from the equation.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
I think he’s aware he’s the problem. Whether he can completely remove himself from meddling is a fair question. Same for whether he can make the right hire.
2) JC QBs rarely make a material difference in CFB -
Pete took a JC quarterback while Browning was here and the guy ended up getting married and quitting the team, IIRC.
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I think he came the same year as Browning. I don’t think he quit. He got pushed out after graduation because he had a family.BleachedAnusDawg said:Pete took a JC quarterback while Browning was here and the guy ended up getting married and quitting the team, IIRC.
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If the players can’t execute the plays that are called that’s a coaching problem anyways. Coaching is about getting the most out of your talent. Pete is absolutely horrible at adjusting his scheme to his personnel. He’s had plenty of time to recruit his guys for his system and it still failed. We haven’t maximized our talent on offense for years.UW_Doog_Bot said:With a weak AF OOC and all of the talent on this roster we are ranked 123rd in PPG. That's not "execution" Pete. That's your system.
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The talent argument is bogus. The performance of his talented teams against decent teams show he has no idea how to prepare a team from a temperament or scheme perspective to win these games. That is a requirement for the position. He must make radical, fundamental changes to the program. Or go.
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whlinder said:
Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
