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The Irony of Chris Petersen
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I’m not a party to that argument. I was adding my two cents on the mental gymnastics you doogs go though to try and find hope that a dumb coach will all of a sudden get smarter.godawgst said:
Einstein the question was how doesn't Pete know he's the problem and I gave a scenario that was plausible.PurpleJ said:
Who started Browning for 4 years? Who picked the OCs?godawgst said:
Do you think he honestly doesn't know his offense has major problems?DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
The vast majority of highly successful driven people are keenly aware of everything around them.
I can see a scenario where he thought the issues were at the qb position with Browning the last 4 years.
This year showed him it goes beyond that.
Strausser couldn't recruit and he made the change
Pease couldn't coach or recruit and he made the change
Lubick checked out last year and he made the change.
Pete will make the change at OC in the next month. The question becomes does he hire someone and give them full reign and total control of the offense, or we get another guy who will just run what Pete wants.
Stop making excuses for Pete’s poor judgement you fucking doog.
We all get that it starts and stops with Pete and it's on him.
You want him fired.
I think he's earned the chance to have a come to Jesus moment about his offense.
You seem to think he is going to up and revamp his offense while winningly acknowledging that he has made the same shitty OC hire twice and chose to start Browning for four years on top of that.
Maybe you are right that he deserves the chance to unfuck himself, but his past decision-making strongly suggests that he won’t.
I’m for firing his ass now, and not having another throwaway year. I have all the evidence I need, you battered wife fucking doog. In the face of all the evidence you still hold out hope that next time will be different. I almost feel bad for you. -
He was at that point in 2015 and half fixed it with the consultant play, then reverted to dumbfuckery by keeping Smith around. He doubled down with Bush.Tequilla said:
Everything @godawgst said is spot onDerekJohnson said:
If he knew that he would have addressed it far sooner.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
The work done in the offseason was an effort of “I’m going to step in and we’ll figure out the right changes to make ...
Instead of getting better it got worse ... that’s not lost on successful people
Consultants get paid big bucks because leaders realize they don’t have all the answers
Pete is now at that point in his career
He can change. Everyone says so. -
I won’t even mention all the dumb personnel decisions like starting a cripple at LT or the shitty receivers, or the bad clock management, or Bob Gregory, or promoting Lake to DC. I’m classy so I won’t do that.
Hold out hope guys! We’re gonna level up! -
He didn’t have a QB in 2014 and a true Frosh in 2015PurpleJ said:
He was at that point in 2015 and half fixed it with the consultant play, then reverted to dumbfuckery by keeping Smith around. He doubled down with Bush.Tequilla said:
Everything @godawgst said is spot onDerekJohnson said:
If he knew that he would have addressed it far sooner.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
The work done in the offseason was an effort of “I’m going to step in and we’ll figure out the right changes to make ...
Instead of getting better it got worse ... that’s not lost on successful people
Consultants get paid big bucks because leaders realize they don’t have all the answers
Pete is now at that point in his career
He can change. Everyone says so.
Try again -
He didn’t have a qb in any of the years after that either. There was one difference in 2016. Guess what it was.Tequilla said:
He didn’t have a QB in 2014 and a true Frosh in 2015PurpleJ said:
He was at that point in 2015 and half fixed it with the consultant play, then reverted to dumbfuckery by keeping Smith around. He doubled down with Bush.Tequilla said:
Everything @godawgst said is spot onDerekJohnson said:
If he knew that he would have addressed it far sooner.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
The work done in the offseason was an effort of “I’m going to step in and we’ll figure out the right changes to make ...
Instead of getting better it got worse ... that’s not lost on successful people
Consultants get paid big bucks because leaders realize they don’t have all the answers
Pete is now at that point in his career
He can change. Everyone says so.
Try again
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Where did I say Pete wasn't aware there was a problem? Look at what I wrote. I said how do we know Pete is aware that HE is part of the problem.godawgst said:
Do you think he honestly doesn't know his offense has major problems?DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
The vast majority of highly successful driven people are keenly aware of everything around them.
I can see a scenario where he thought the issues were at the qb position with Browning the last 4 years.
This year showed him it goes beyond that.
Strausser couldn't recruit and he made the change
Pease couldn't coach or recruit and he made the change
Lubick checked out last year and he made the change.
Pete will make the change at OC in the next month. The question becomes does he hire someone and give them full reign and total control of the offense, or we get another guy who will just run what Pete wants. -
I agree on the above but you missed the point.Tequilla said:
Everything @godawgst said is spot onDerekJohnson said:
If he knew that he would have addressed it far sooner.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
The work done in the offseason was an effort of “I’m going to step in and we’ll figure out the right changes to make ...
Instead of getting better it got worse ... that’s not lost on successful people
Consultants get paid big bucks because leaders realize they don’t have all the answers
Pete is now at that point in his career -
A man who willingly goes four years with Browning and does nothing to rectify it lacks self-awareness. Right now it's hazy whether he realizes that he is the problem and will have the humility to remove himself from the equation.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing. -
It is stated as fact that the AD reads this board. The logic of "Pete is THE problem with the offense" is almost bulletproof and well reasoned and argued on here. If whoever is reading this board isn't at least running this concept up the flagpole as they scramble for answers that would be criminal.DerekJohnson said:
A man who willingly goes four years with Browning and does nothing to rectify it lacks self-awareness. Right now it's hazy whether he realizes that he is the problem and will have the humility to remove himself from the equation.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
Hopefully Pete's boss essentially takes the decision away from him; let go or get let go. -
He didn’t have anyone better. That’s still his fault, but you don’t make a change just to make a change. I think it would be pretty hard to think Browning was going to flame out like he did after his first two years in the program.DerekJohnson said:
A man who willingly goes four years with Browning and does nothing to rectify it lacks self-awareness. Right now it's hazy whether he realizes that he is the problem and will have the humility to remove himself from the equation.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think he can avoid it. He knows it all ends with him. Whether he will make successful changes is another issue.DerekJohnson said:
But... How do you know he is aware that he's the problem?godawgst said:
Boise insiders sad as much when he left that he seemed burnt out.DerekJohnson said:
I had speculated that his move from Boise to UW was in the hopes of rekindling some passion for coaching football.whlinder said:Starting to think he’s lost his passion for coaching. Wonder if he will hang it up this offseason.
He has said he won't be coaching past 60.
I believe he has a 5 year run left in him, and doesn't want to go out like this, so will make the decision to let go of the offense.
You could win a NC with the 2016-17 defenses he had. He will look for a guy/system to do what Ohio State/LSU did when they had their offensive issues and take the final step in being able to win the whole thing.
I think he’s aware he’s the problem. Whether he can completely remove himself from meddling is a fair question. Same for whether he can make the right hire.
