Coaching replacement thread
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I just don't want to see us make the same mistake with Hamdan that we did with Smith. They have both been hamstrung with this being Pete's offense. Bush has not shown much ability to adjust in game but let's rememberHoustonHusky said:
Agree on matching the system to your current and likely future qbs, but a big WTF on keeping Bush for another year. He literally called a game where he called run plays into run blitzes for 3 1/2 quarters. That is a special kind of stupid we don’t need for another year.whuggy said:On reflection I'm not liking my suggestion of looking into the staffs of LSU and Oklahoma for a possible Bush replacement. Your offense has to fit the skills of your QB. All the good college offenses have QB's with some degree of mobility. Hurts, Herbert, Tua, Burrow while not run first can escape the pocket and get a few positive yards. Eason and our next likely, Sirmon, are both essentially statues so building an offense similar to those other programs is unlikely to work. I can't really think of any good college offenses that have statue QB's. Ironically Oregon State is probably the first to come to mind. I'm one of the few who wants to give Bush another year. If so I'd have him take a look at what OSU is doing. I'll tell you they don't do any of that stupid WR screen shit. The only other idea I have is look at what has been a pretty successful offense over the years in the NFL with a statue QB in Brady. That's a pretty wide divergence admittedly in the Beavers and the Patriots but they both move the ball with immobile QB's. Of course this is all based on the assumption that Pete loosens the death grip on the offense.
he is operating with an OL that is not living up to expectation and a group of receivers that Millen has essentially called awful. Everyone on here agrees that Pete has to let go. If you are not going to give Hamdan a chance to run an offense, then give me your list of who you would hire. And won't those hires be just as useless if Pete still controls them? I'm all for looking at a new OC if Hamdan fails, but is it Hamdan failing or Pete failing Hamdan?
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He doesn’t seem to get that mad. He used to when he hated some Sark guys. Some of those guys were pretty good too. Now he likes everyone because he recruited them and seems to go lighter on them.whlinder said:
Maybe what I am really trying to say is he doesn't have the passion for winning that he used to. Does he still get pissed off and livid at screwups on the sideline? I checked out a few weeks ago, so no idea.Houhusky said:Isn’t it kind of a paradox to say that Pete doesn’t have the passion for coaching but also cares enough to maintain his death-grip on the offense?
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They are both hamstrung, but smurf did a lot more with this offense then Hamden is doing. Another year won’t fix it...you either have it or you don’t and Hamden doesn’t. Even if it’s something you can learn he’s not going to learn it under Pete.whuggy said:
I just don't want to see us make the same mistake with Hamdan that we did with Smith. They have both been hamstrung with this being Pete's offense. Bush has not shown much ability to adjust in game but let's rememberHoustonHusky said:
Agree on matching the system to your current and likely future qbs, but a big WTF on keeping Bush for another year. He literally called a game where he called run plays into run blitzes for 3 1/2 quarters. That is a special kind of stupid we don’t need for another year.whuggy said:On reflection I'm not liking my suggestion of looking into the staffs of LSU and Oklahoma for a possible Bush replacement. Your offense has to fit the skills of your QB. All the good college offenses have QB's with some degree of mobility. Hurts, Herbert, Tua, Burrow while not run first can escape the pocket and get a few positive yards. Eason and our next likely, Sirmon, are both essentially statues so building an offense similar to those other programs is unlikely to work. I can't really think of any good college offenses that have statue QB's. Ironically Oregon State is probably the first to come to mind. I'm one of the few who wants to give Bush another year. If so I'd have him take a look at what OSU is doing. I'll tell you they don't do any of that stupid WR screen shit. The only other idea I have is look at what has been a pretty successful offense over the years in the NFL with a statue QB in Brady. That's a pretty wide divergence admittedly in the Beavers and the Patriots but they both move the ball with immobile QB's. Of course this is all based on the assumption that Pete loosens the death grip on the offense.
he is operating with an OL that is not living up to expectation and a group of receivers that Millen has essentially called awful. Everyone on here agrees that Pete has to let go. If you are not going to give Hamdan a chance to run an offense, then give me your list of who you would hire. And won't those hires be just as useless if Pete still controls them? I'm all for looking at a new OC if Hamdan fails, but is it Hamdan failing or Pete failing Hamdan?
Edit: And by the way I think we also have big problems on the other side of the ball.
And I give more props now than I did at the time to Brownsocks...he may not have an arm which caused problems with good defenses (Cal), but at least he said FU to the dumbest playcalls of Bush’s and audibled out. Eason doesn’t seem to have the confidence or foresight or whatever it is to audible out of the plays and tell Bush to pound sand. -
This is the 3rd season I've posted this name for OC... Jeff Horton.
Not flashy, but he's experienced enough to tell Pete his BS sucks.
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GayThoughts said:
I’m hearing offensive genius Willie Taggart is available.
But, actual possible offensive genius Kendal Briles might be available. @dirtysouwfdawg got his home address to send him a cake? -
Just wait till jimmy lake gets his blitz package read down things will get ugly in a hurryPurpleThrobber said:Jimmy Lake will beat Cuog again Friday and talk shit. He'll become the board's darling once again.
Except he doesn't deserve it.
#teamkwiat
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Not sure why Lake doesn't deserve to be the head coach at this point. Defense isn't the problem. Pete is.PurpleThrobber said:Jimmy Lake will beat Cuog again Friday and talk shit. He'll become the board's darling once again.
Except he doesn't deserve it.
#teamkwiat
Get a recruiter and let the specialists take the offense and defense. Fuck Pete -
Some of the names that are being tossed around on Doogman..
Doug Nussmeier
Norm Chow
Chris Tomey
Jon Kitna -
Jake Browning OC
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CHRISTinsinceredawg said:Some of the names that are being tossed around on Doogman..
Doug Nussmeier
Norm Chow
Chris Tomey
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Moore is on the fast track to nfl hc and he’s going to come back to college to learn recruiting, comical. The entire point of where Pete goes wrong is he brings in green coaches who he can boss around and they get rail roaded into decisions. They need an experienced offensive mind who is either been in the game a while or has been fcs and has enough balls to have an opinion. Bush was comically under experienced coming in here.AEB said:Kellen Moore for HC. OC for Cowboys, young, and will run a similar player development program. Will keep D staff ex Lake/Gregory.
A few guys that we “could” get(the lists of guys we don’t have a shot at are dmc FS)
Lindgren at OSU. Been OC at two colleges in the pac12 and is making osu look good.
Zak hill - yes it’s annoying hes from bsu but he’s not a Peterson Guy. He’s coached at fcs and now is oc and doing well with all kinds of different players.
Baldwin - not my fav choice but possible and has experience. Let’s remember it’s still cal. Jesus could coach the offense and it’s still cal.
Sanford - bsu guy but did well at Norte dame before getting some crust on his star. Doing well at Utah state but nothing sexy about this hire.
Harrell - will need a job in 2 weeks. USC has looked decent with his offense. Their team is just a mess. He’s young and doesn’t have experience so he’s more a roll of the dice. But him or lindgren are probably my favorites that I’ve seen.
Basically there isn’t a lot of sexy names. And they have to want to work for a coach that may not let them, coach.
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lmaoinsinceredawg said:Some of the names that are being tossed around on Doogman..
Doug Nussmeier
Norm Chow
Chris Tomey
Jon Kitna
Any site other than braintrust central Dawgman and I'd think you were trolling. -
Art Briles has learned his lesson and is a reformed man.
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I’m in Texas now... I know dads coaching at mount Vernon high school in no where Texas if that helps. He already has two ineligible players for being a cheater.Emoterman said:GayThoughts said:I’m hearing offensive genius Willie Taggart is available.
But, actual possible offensive genius Kendal Briles might be available. @dirtysouwfdawg got his home address to send him a cake? -
Are we willing to embrace an air raid system?
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I don't need a coach I believe can win multiple national championships. I need a coach who can show he has the ability to win one. What I don't want is a coach who has proven time and time again that that isn't a possibility under his regime. Chris Petersen has shown us that in multiple ways, multiple times.
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My post on Moore was simply having Petersen hire his replacement. In actual fact were he to retire sooner than expected, he’d be a Strong influence over Cohn. I could see him endorsing Moore, and shit, the dude is OC of the Cowboys. That’s better than any BS coach that’ll sign up to be Pete’s OC.
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Besides, you know, a playoff berth.Gladstone said:I don't need a coach I believe can win multiple national championships. I need a coach who can show he has the ability to win one. What I don't want is a coach who has proven time and time again that that isn't a possibility under his regime. Chris Petersen has shown us that in multiple ways, multiple times.
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@ArtBriles true?BleachedAnusDawg said:Art Briles has learned his lesson and is a reformed man.
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Bodie Reeder from North Texassonics1993 said:Anybody got some names for OC?
Only 32, used to be at Eastern Washington.