Are you trying to tell me that our incompetent government bureaucrats that can't handle basic public service can design the internet. You know who doesn't want the merger of Sprint and Tmobile? Ignorant leftards and Verizon and AT&T.
You like monopolies and also think they are good for the free market. Like Dabonehead, you think it's great to give ISPs the power to control the internet of information and services, and not limit them to simply being the access points, like the utilities that they are. Of course Verizon and AT&T don't want Sprint and Tmobile to merger. Monopolies gonna monopoly.
You think monopolies can be sustained in a free market. What a stooge.
OregonBlitzFag wants bureaucrats and politicians to keep things “fair” by picking winners and losers rather than the consumer.
Imagine being that far up the states ass.
Meanwhile, internet service have never been so cheap, fast and reliable. But yeah, let’s change that. It’s really shitty.
Mike hates free markets and hates the idea of a free internet. He wants large corporations like AT&T to control what info, apps and services we have access to and which ones we don't. Sort of like how he wants wants corporate America to set immigration policy, which means unrestricted open borders for the cheap labor. Mike wants to see a corporate dictatorship, where the biggest monopoly sets all the rules and runs the kingdom.
The only monopoly is the government. And if the government is being bought off and run by corporate American, that simply means the government is too big and has too much power. Take away the power and size and the incentive to influence it is diminished. Of course controlling 535 members of Congress seems to be too tall of an order. So let’s focus on the millions of corporations and citizens rather than 535 corrupt humans. 536 counting the POTUS
AT&T is openly advertising that cellular customers can stream the company’s DirecTV Now product without it counting against monthly data caps. Meanwhile, all of the competing video services like Sling TV, Paystation Vue, YouTube TV, Netflix or Amazon Prime count against AT&T data caps – and video can quickly kill a monthly data plan download allotment. AT&T’s behavior is almost a pure textbook example of why net neutrality rules were put into place – to stop ISPs from putting competitor’s products at an automatic disadvantage. AT&T is the biggest cellular provider in the country and this creates a huge advantage for DirecTV Now. All of the major cellular carriers are doing something similar in allowing some video to not count against the monthly data cap, but AT&T is the only one pushing their own video product.
In November a large study of 100,000 cellphone users by Northeastern University and the University of Massachusetts showed that Sprint was throttling Skype. This is not something that the carrier announced, but it’s a clear case of pushing web traffic to the ‘Internet slow lane’. We can only speculate why Sprint would do this, but regardless of their motivation this is clearly a violation of net neutrality.
This same study showed numerous incidents where all of the major cellular carriers throttled video services at times. YouTube was the number one target of throttling, followed by Netflix, Amazon Prime, and the NBC Sports app
? All of that is good. Why do you hate Competition and the market. OBK is as much of a statist as the HondoBros
What a stupid argument, probably the dumbest argument you have ever made on this forum. How is it good competition to allow ISP monopolies to throttle or speed up traffic to websites of their choosing? It harms smaller competitors. Also what happens when ISPs start getting political and decide to throttle traffic to conservative websites while simultaneously speeding up the flow of traffic to sites like CNN and the Bezos Post?
Offering Directv without it counting against your data plan has nothing to do with throttling. In fact TMobile does the same thing with Netflix.
Funny how the government is ok charging people more to drive in a less crowded lane on the freeway who chose to pay the fee for the privilege of going faster. OBF thinks everyone should be equally miserable in the slow lane.
Mike now hates states rights. And roads still have nothing to do with the internet.
Mike hates free markets and hates the idea of a free internet. He wants large corporations like AT&T to control what info, apps and services we have access to and which ones we don't. Sort of like how he wants wants corporate America to set immigration policy, which means unrestricted open borders for the cheap labor. Mike wants to see a corporate dictatorship, where the biggest monopoly sets all the rules and runs the kingdom.
That happened with citizens United.
Citizens united has nothing to do with the internet....
Correct. But it has to do with OBKs comment saying you want a corporate dictatorship.
Funny how the government is ok charging people more to drive in a less crowded lane on the freeway who chose to pay the fee for the privilege of going faster. OBF thinks everyone should be equally miserable in the slow lane.
Mike now hates states rights. And roads still have nothing to do with the internet.
Mike hates free markets and hates the idea of a free internet. He wants large corporations like AT&T to control what info, apps and services we have access to and which ones we don't. Sort of like how he wants wants corporate America to set immigration policy, which means unrestricted open borders for the cheap labor. Mike wants to see a corporate dictatorship, where the biggest monopoly sets all the rules and runs the kingdom.
That happened with citizens United.
Citizens united has nothing to do with the internet....
Correct. But it has to do with OBKs comment saying you want a corporate dictatorship.
Except I don’t. Fuckwit. I want smaller government. With a smaller government citizens united isn’t even relevant. It’s only relevant because dickheads like you want the government to have more and more power that can then be bought. It’s cute you think net neutrality is about “fairness”.
Funny how the government is ok charging people more to drive in a less crowded lane on the freeway who chose to pay the fee for the privilege of going faster. OBF thinks everyone should be equally miserable in the slow lane.
Mike now hates states rights. And roads still have nothing to do with the internet.
Mike hates free markets and hates the idea of a free internet. He wants large corporations like AT&T to control what info, apps and services we have access to and which ones we don't. Sort of like how he wants wants corporate America to set immigration policy, which means unrestricted open borders for the cheap labor. Mike wants to see a corporate dictatorship, where the biggest monopoly sets all the rules and runs the kingdom.
That happened with citizens United.
Citizens united has nothing to do with the internet....
Correct. But it has to do with OBKs comment saying you want a corporate dictatorship.
Except I don’t. Fuckwit. I want smaller government. With a smaller government citizens united isn’t even relevant. It’s only relevant because dickheads like you want the government to have more and more power that can then be bought. It’s cute you think net neutrality is about “fairness”.
Yep, Hondo is the kind of dipshit who wants a massive Federal government involved in nearly every aspect of our lives but then is naive enough to believe that nobody with money and power will try and use their resources in order to influence the government.
Just look at Iowa and the corn ethanol scam. High gas prices and crappy performance for the working schmo and tens of billions of dollars to millionaire corn farmers.
The FCC’s repeal is a radical break from an almost 20 year bipartisan FCC tradition of protecting an open internet. Some proponents of the repeal argue that a year after the decision, the internet is still functioning — but that doesn’t mean the internet isn’t changing. Consumers may not have noticed broadband providers making network management adjustments, because they are purposefully small and gradual, but they are crucial steps in preventing an open internet.
There have been several potential net neutrality violations since the repeal went into effect:
AT&T and Verizon both torture the meaning of the word “unlimited” by offering multiple unlimited plans. But the more expensive ones are either paired with the company’s own streaming service, or the companies degrade the quality of the video under certain conditions. These practices may give the carrier’s content an advantage in the marketplace over smaller, independent video producers.
Sprint has been throttling internet traffic to Microsoft’s Skype service, causing the video quality to be poorer than it should be, which is especially worrisome because Skype is a tool that competes with Sprint’s calling service. These are only two examples of how companies can favor their own content over competitors’ without rules forbidding this behavior.
Comcast has new speed limits where videos will be throttled to 480p on all its mobile plans unless customers pay extra.
A recent study shows that the largest U.S. telecom companies, including Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile, are slowing down internet traffic from apps like YouTube and Netflix.
Verizon’s throttling of services even affected the Santa Clara County Fire Department’s ability to provide emergency services during the California wildfires. The fire department experienced slowed down speeds on their devices and had to sign up for a new, expensive plan before speeds were restored.
Other examples continue to show that internet companies have already used the lack of net neutrality rules to their advantage to make money and block certain content.
I'm not sure you noticed, but cellular infrastructure costs a lot of money. Sprint and TMobile are not competitive with Verizon or AT&T unless paying less for shitty coverage is your bag. One of the big problems with a new cellular rollout is the blackmail that has to be paid to the feds and local and state governments. Check your cell bill. So, with a merger we could have three competitive networks or just the two. I support more competition. You just spout leftard rhetoric. The development of the internet and cellular service is one of the great triumphs of capitalism and the free enterprise system. Feel free to ignore government incompetence and have the government run it. Just like they run Tri-Met - the supper cheap and efficient Portland transit system.
To the far left fascists I'm an 'alt-right racist.' To GOP robots that don't question any of their party's own policies, no matter how stupid and short-sighted they may be, I'm a 'left-tard.' I must be doing something right.
Net Neutrality isn't a left or right issue, jackass. Keep supporting FCC Chairman Ajit Pai though, a former Verizon attorney, who stripped your power away to oppose the FCC's forced rollout of 5g, so that Verizon can cash in on taking away your right to be safe and healthy in your own neighborhood. Trump says it's great. If it's so great, why is it banned in West Palm Beach?
I'm not sure you noticed, but cellular infrastructure costs a lot of money. Sprint and TMobile are not competitive with Verizon or AT&T unless paying less for shitty coverage is your bag. One of the big problems with a new cellular rollout is the blackmail that has to be paid to the feds and local and state governments. Check your cell bill. So, with a merger we could have three competitive networks or just the two. I support more competition. You just spout leftard rhetoric. The development of the internet and cellular service is one of the great triumphs of capitalism and the free enterprise system. Feel free to ignore government incompetence and have the government run it. Just like they run Tri-Met - the supper cheap and efficient Portland transit system.
Combating the high infrastructure costs and prohibitive barriers to entry is the aim of net neutrality. You like to talk about electricity markets so why don't you take a closer look at how deregulated electricity markets are designed. It's not through vertical integration of generation, transmission and retail....which is the current state of the internet.
This thread is why there is no point to providing evidence. People here are so misinformed they’re arguing against themselves without even knowing it. And they have no interest to learn.
YEARS of this. It’s like arguing with a fucking doog about football. Only option is to DIAFF.
If you have the government permit access to your property for a price that the government thinks is fair - then you won't get the property constructed. It's the same people who were bitching about Microsoft Explorer and how the government needed to intervene. Same with AT&T land lines.
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You think monopolies can be sustained in a free market. What a stooge.
OregonBlitzFag wants bureaucrats and politicians to keep things “fair” by picking winners and losers rather than the consumer.
Imagine being that far up the states ass.
Meanwhile, internet service have never been so cheap, fast and reliable. But yeah, let’s change that. It’s really shitty.
The only monopoly is the government. And if the government is being bought off and run by corporate American, that simply means the government is too big and has too much power. Take away the power and size and the incentive to influence it is diminished. Of course controlling 535 members of Congress seems to be too tall of an order. So let’s focus on the millions of corporations and citizens rather than 535 corrupt humans. 536 counting the POTUS
There have been several potential net neutrality violations since the repeal went into effect:
AT&T and Verizon both torture the meaning of the word “unlimited” by offering multiple unlimited plans. But the more expensive ones are either paired with the company’s own streaming service, or the companies degrade the quality of the video under certain conditions. These practices may give the carrier’s content an advantage in the marketplace over smaller, independent video producers.
Sprint has been throttling internet traffic to Microsoft’s Skype service, causing the video quality to be poorer than it should be, which is especially worrisome because Skype is a tool that competes with Sprint’s calling service. These are only two examples of how companies can favor their own content over competitors’ without rules forbidding this behavior.
Comcast has new speed limits where videos will be throttled to 480p on all its mobile plans unless customers pay extra.
A recent study shows that the largest U.S. telecom companies, including Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile, are slowing down internet traffic from apps like YouTube and Netflix.
Verizon’s throttling of services even affected the Santa Clara County Fire Department’s ability to provide emergency services during the California wildfires. The fire department experienced slowed down speeds on their devices and had to sign up for a new, expensive plan before speeds were restored.
Other examples continue to show that internet companies have already used the lack of net neutrality rules to their advantage to make money and block certain content.
https://publicknowledge.org/blog/broadband-providers-are-quietly-taking-advantage-of-an-internet-without-net-neutrality-protections/
Net Neutrality isn't a left or right issue, jackass. Keep supporting FCC Chairman Ajit Pai though, a former Verizon attorney, who stripped your power away to oppose the FCC's forced rollout of 5g, so that Verizon can cash in on taking away your right to be safe and healthy in your own neighborhood. Trump says it's great. If it's so great, why is it banned in West Palm Beach?
Start using your brain.
YEARS of this. It’s like arguing with a fucking doog about football. Only option is to DIAFF.