Just like the net neutrality horseshit
https://mises.org/wire/two-years-after-trumps-exit-paris-agreement-its-proven-be-farce
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You like to give ISPs (utilities) carte blanche power to speed up or throttle traffic flow to websites of their choosing. That's what you like to do.
"ISPs are already violating the Old Net Neutrality Rules"
https://potsandpansbyccg.com/2019/02/13/isps-are-violating-the-old-net-neutrality-rules/ -
1) that didn’t happenoregonblitzkrieg said:You like to give ISPs (utilities) carte blanche power to speed up or throttle traffic flow to websites of their choosing. That's what you like to do.
2) you like to give the state power over the free market when it’s not required. That’s what you like to do.
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AT&T is openly advertising that cellular customers can stream the company’s DirecTV Now product without it counting against monthly data caps. Meanwhile, all of the competing video services like Sling TV, Paystation Vue, YouTube TV, Netflix or Amazon Prime count against AT&T data caps – and video can quickly kill a monthly data plan download allotment. AT&T’s behavior is almost a pure textbook example of why net neutrality rules were put into place – to stop ISPs from putting competitor’s products at an automatic disadvantage. AT&T is the biggest cellular provider in the country and this creates a huge advantage for DirecTV Now. All of the major cellular carriers are doing something similar in allowing some video to not count against the monthly data cap, but AT&T is the only one pushing their own video product.
In November a large study of 100,000 cellphone users by Northeastern University and the University of Massachusetts showed that Sprint was throttling Skype. This is not something that the carrier announced, but it’s a clear case of pushing web traffic to the ‘Internet slow lane’. We can only speculate why Sprint would do this, but regardless of their motivation this is clearly a violation of net neutrality.
This same study showed numerous incidents where all of the major cellular carriers throttled video services at times. YouTube was the number one target of throttling, followed by Netflix, Amazon Prime, and the NBC Sports app -
? All of that is good. Why do you hate Competition and the market. OBK is as much of a statist as the HondoBrosoregonblitzkrieg said:AT&T is openly advertising that cellular customers can stream the company’s DirecTV Now product without it counting against monthly data caps. Meanwhile, all of the competing video services like Sling TV, Paystation Vue, YouTube TV, Netflix or Amazon Prime count against AT&T data caps – and video can quickly kill a monthly data plan download allotment. AT&T’s behavior is almost a pure textbook example of why net neutrality rules were put into place – to stop ISPs from putting competitor’s products at an automatic disadvantage. AT&T is the biggest cellular provider in the country and this creates a huge advantage for DirecTV Now. All of the major cellular carriers are doing something similar in allowing some video to not count against the monthly data cap, but AT&T is the only one pushing their own video product.
In November a large study of 100,000 cellphone users by Northeastern University and the University of Massachusetts showed that Sprint was throttling Skype. This is not something that the carrier announced, but it’s a clear case of pushing web traffic to the ‘Internet slow lane’. We can only speculate why Sprint would do this, but regardless of their motivation this is clearly a violation of net neutrality.
This same study showed numerous incidents where all of the major cellular carriers throttled video services at times. YouTube was the number one target of throttling, followed by Netflix, Amazon Prime, and the NBC Sports app -
1.) It's already happening.MikeDamone said:
1) that didn’t happenoregonblitzkrieg said:You like to give ISPs (utilities) carte blanche power to speed up or throttle traffic flow to websites of their choosing. That's what you like to do.
2) you like to give the state power over the free market when it’s not required. That’s what you like to do.
2.) You like to give ISPs power over the free internet when it's not required. That's what you like to do. -
What a stupid argument, probably the dumbest argument you have ever made on this forum. How is it good competition to allow ISP monopolies to throttle or speed up traffic to websites of their choosing? It harms smaller competitors. Also what happens when ISPs start getting political and decide to throttle traffic to conservative websites while simultaneously speeding up the flow of traffic to sites like CNN and the Bezos Post?MikeDamone said:
? All of that is good. Why do you hate Competition and the market. OBK is as much of a statist as the HondoBrosoregonblitzkrieg said:AT&T is openly advertising that cellular customers can stream the company’s DirecTV Now product without it counting against monthly data caps. Meanwhile, all of the competing video services like Sling TV, Paystation Vue, YouTube TV, Netflix or Amazon Prime count against AT&T data caps – and video can quickly kill a monthly data plan download allotment. AT&T’s behavior is almost a pure textbook example of why net neutrality rules were put into place – to stop ISPs from putting competitor’s products at an automatic disadvantage. AT&T is the biggest cellular provider in the country and this creates a huge advantage for DirecTV Now. All of the major cellular carriers are doing something similar in allowing some video to not count against the monthly data cap, but AT&T is the only one pushing their own video product.
In November a large study of 100,000 cellphone users by Northeastern University and the University of Massachusetts showed that Sprint was throttling Skype. This is not something that the carrier announced, but it’s a clear case of pushing web traffic to the ‘Internet slow lane’. We can only speculate why Sprint would do this, but regardless of their motivation this is clearly a violation of net neutrality.
This same study showed numerous incidents where all of the major cellular carriers throttled video services at times. YouTube was the number one target of throttling, followed by Netflix, Amazon Prime, and the NBC Sports app -
ISPs are the free market.oregonblitzkrieg said:
1.) It's already happening.MikeDamone said:
1) that didn’t happenoregonblitzkrieg said:You like to give ISPs (utilities) carte blanche power to speed up or throttle traffic flow to websites of their choosing. That's what you like to do.
2) you like to give the state power over the free market when it’s not required. That’s what you like to do.
2.) You like to give ISPs power over the free internet when it's not required. That's what you like to do.
OBK and the HondoBros. Two sides of the same statist coin. Just like be proved last week. The more you dig the more you find leftists and the far right are really the same. ANTIFA and the proud boys both love government to control people. -
MikeDamone doesn't know about monopolies. SAD.
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or maybe hes a soy boy for rober barons who knows with this guy
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I know that the state creates monopolies. Without they state they don’t and can’t last.Gwad said:MikeDamone doesn't know about monopolies. SAD.
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No they are not. ISPs are utilities that provide access to the internet. Now apply your FS argument to another scenario. Water companies are utilities that provide access to water. Lets start allowing water utilities to speed up or throttle the delivery of water to certain homes and businesses and not others.MikeDamone said:
ISPs are the free market.oregonblitzkrieg said:
1.) It's already happening.MikeDamone said:
1) that didn’t happenoregonblitzkrieg said:You like to give ISPs (utilities) carte blanche power to speed up or throttle traffic flow to websites of their choosing. That's what you like to do.
2) you like to give the state power over the free market when it’s not required. That’s what you like to do.
2.) You like to give ISPs power over the free internet when it's not required. That's what you like to do.
OBK and the HondoBros. Two sides of the same statist coin. Just like be proved last week. The more you dig the more you find leftists and the far right are really the same. ANTIFA and the proud boys both love government to control people. -
Gwad said:
or maybe hes a soy boy for rober barons who knows with this guy
Gwad and OBK. Different sides of the same coin. -
You're struggling in this thread and trying to deflect to other issues. Lets keep on topic: Your desire to see the government help large monopolies like AT&T rig the free market of the internet, by allowing ISP utilities to speed up and throttle traffic to websites of their choosing, which they've already begun to do. Or were you one of those idiots who believed Verizon and AT&T when they promised to not engage in these practices?MikeDamone said:Gwad said:or maybe hes a soy boy for rober barons who knows with this guy
Gwad and OBK. Different sides of the same coin. -
My original issue was the Paris accord. Try to keep up.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're struggling in this thread and trying to deflect to other issues. Lets keep on topic: Your desire to see the government help large monopolies like AT&T rig the free market of the internet, by allowing ISP utilities to speed up and throttle traffic to websites of their choosing, which they've already begun to do. Or were you one of those idiots who believed Verizon and AT&T when they promised to not engage in these practices?MikeDamone said:Gwad said:or maybe hes a soy boy for rober barons who knows with this guy
Gwad and OBK. Different sides of the same coin.
You’re rudimentary understanding of economics and what creates companies like AT&T is forcing to align with fascists and socialists. But from a racist like you I’d expect as much. You and Hondo. Bros for life.
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What do fascists, socialists, racists and the Hondo Bros have to do with net neutrality? Maybe your argument is just weak and you're trying to tread water.
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over 100 million Americans have one option for an internet provider......
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MikeDamone has an above rudimentary understanding of economics though!oregonblitzkrieg said:What do fascists, socialists, racists and the Hondo Bros have to do with net neutrality? Maybe your argument is just weak and you're trying to tread water.
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1) you’re a racist. Established factoregonblitzkrieg said:What do fascists, socialists, racists and the Hondo Bros have to do with net neutrality? Maybe your argument is just weak and you're trying to tread water.
2) fascists. Socialists, HondoBros and racists (you) want government to create pretend monopolies so government can heroically break up the monopolies they created with even more control and stifling of the market and meddling in it. -
The real horseshit is the entire GOP lining up to support that shitbag Ajit Pai, a former corporate attorney for Verizon, in advancing his agenda of helping monopolies like Verizon and AT&T kill competition in favor of directing traffic to their own platforms and services, by throttling access to competitor websites. He's the same shithead who is spearheading the forced rollout of 5g, along with rules that forbid local governments from effectively opposing the rollout of this untested and dangerous technology. Sounds like a real 'free market' sort of guy. A real DKG. Damone's kind of guy.
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And that’s my point, dumbfuck. The monopoly can’t exist without your beloved government. Then they want to ride in and “fix it” by taking it over. Fuck off. Statist.oregonblitzkrieg said:The real horseshit is the entire GOP lining up to support that shitbag Ajit Pai, a former corporate attorney for Verizon, in advancing his agenda of helping monopolies like Verizon and AT&T kill competition in favor of directing traffic to their own platforms and services, by throttling access to competitor websites. He's the same shithead who is spearheading the forced rollout of 5g, along with rules that forbid local governments from effectively opposing the rollout of this untested and dangerous technology. Sounds like a real 'free market' sort of guy. A real DKG. Damone's kind of guy.
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Shredding net neutrality rules only helps the ISP monopolies consolidate power and destroy up and coming competition. Not to mention giving them the ability to decide what information you should have access to and what information you shouldn't. Why do you support that? I thought you liked the free market.MikeDamone said:
And that’s my point, dumbfuck. The monopoly can’t exist without your beloved government. Then they want to ride in and “fix it” by taking it over. Fuck off. Statist.oregonblitzkrieg said:The real horseshit is the entire GOP lining up to support that shitbag Ajit Pai, a former corporate attorney for Verizon, in advancing his agenda of helping monopolies like Verizon and AT&T kill competition in favor of directing traffic to their own platforms and services, by throttling access to competitor websites. He's the same shithead who is spearheading the forced rollout of 5g, along with rules that forbid local governments from effectively opposing the rollout of this untested and dangerous technology. Sounds like a real 'free market' sort of guy. A real DKG. Damone's kind of guy.
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Problem with isp shit is that it's not a free market at all. It's terrible rigged bullshit
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Daboner hates the free market and thinks AT&T and Verizon need to have the power to decide what you do and don't have access to online.Pitchfork51 said:Problem with isp shit is that it's not a free market at all. It's terrible rigged bullshit
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OregonBlitzFag hates the free market and thinks the government needs to have the power to decide what you do and don’t have access to online.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Daboner hates the free market and thinks AT&T and Verizon need to have the power to decide what you do and don't have access to online.Pitchfork51 said:Problem with isp shit is that it's not a free market at all. It's terrible rigged bullshit
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Pitchfork51 said:
Problem with isp shit is that it's not a free market at all. It's terrible rigged bullshit
Rigged by the government -
"I know you are but what am I."MikeDamone said:
OregonBlitzFag hates the free market and thinks the government needs to have the power to decide what you do and don’t have access to online.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Daboner hates the free market and thinks AT&T and Verizon need to have the power to decide what you do and don't have access to online.Pitchfork51 said:Problem with isp shit is that it's not a free market at all. It's terrible rigged bullshit
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Yes. That was my pointMikeDamone said:Pitchfork51 said:Problem with isp shit is that it's not a free market at all. It's terrible rigged bullshit
Rigged by the government -
I really hate it when my internet and cellphone are magnitudes better than 10 years ago. Unlike my commute on I-5. You want to turn the internet over to the same people who can't build a new bridge over the Columbia, can't build an Obamacare website, can't fix the Portland pot holes etc. Look at electricity prices in Cali. Like leftards and fascistscare about price and reliability for the working man.
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So I guess you're with DabonHer. You sound like a typical GOP, fall in line with everything the party does, stooge, they can do no wrong. Why? Because the democrats suck. Sorry, that's not a good enough reason to justify turning over the Internet to the ISP monopolies so they can have sole discretion over what info, apps, products, websites you and I have access to. I've already cited examples of what they are starting to do by way of throttling the competition. Keep toeing the party line though, like a good little minion. I'm guessing you also support Verizon shill, FCC chairman Ajit Pai's forced rollout of 5g. Your own local government is forbidden to oppose it.WestlinnDuck said:I really hate it when my internet and cellphone are magnitudes better than 10 years ago. Unlike my commute on I-5. You want to turn the internet over to the same people who can't build a new bridge over the Columbia, can't build an Obamacare website, can't fix the Portland pot holes etc. Look at electricity prices in Cali. Like leftards and fascistscare about price and reliability for the working man.
