Vorel Bringing the Heat
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/when-it-comes-to-uws-wideouts-the-best-players-will-play-but-who-will-that-be-against-arizona/#comments
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Being detailed means you have been in Petes program for years and earned the benefit of the doubt against talented players.
Pete is very risk averse 99% of the time, but then does some whacky trick play shit every now and then he thinks breaks the mold. Call it Boise State Fiesta Bowl PTSD.
Starting younger talented players is risky and could upset the supplanted upperclassmen. Pete doesnt like to rock the boat and thinks his system is more complicated than it really is.
All our star recruits besides Eason are underclasman so maybe this issue will be alleviated soon.
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@jecornel on his poad talked about Pete’s process and how unlikely Pete will change it. I think the problem is less about the process but more the offensive scheme. In a more contemporary offensive scheme, the best players would rise up. These players all know who’s the best. It’s no surprise. The process is making NFL players. The scheme is underutilizing the same players.
TL;DR - the players all know who’s the best - play them. -
We should hire Sark
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PHD_dawg posted a bit of a gut check post and I believe it was needed for a little rebalance of the hate towards the coaching staff.
However, the fact people are making millions from "just a game" warrants criticism when fans are being fleeced a lot of money and herded like sheep to buy "exclusive" apparel only to be purchased by bots to be flipped for cash. I guess that is the three-stripe life.
Should coaches be paid millions of dollars to be "molders of men?"
Pete is paid millions of dollars to win games which he has done. However, he has beaten a lot dreck over the years. I do applaud Pete for being a stand-up guy and supposedly not offering coffee cups. Reading about him paying respects to a former player passing away is a gesture of thoughtfulness and kindness. It is a trait we all admired in Don James. Don James a great football coach and a great human being.
Young adults that have chosen to enter a billion-dollar industry know that it comes with the media scrutiny, and fan criticism.
Vorel is doing an excellent job of poking holes in this offense, and it's beautiful. Nice to see the willingness to call a spade a spade.
Pete's process sucks. His process includes this so-called practice hard during the week means you play.
What do you mean by contemporary offense? They run a bunch of contemporary shit. They just ask nonphysical players to make physical plays on the outside. If you are going to run bubble screens and tunnel screens, you need good blockers and physical skill players to break arm tackles and shit. We run stupid shit that doesn't fit the starting Wr's. There is no identity to the offense. The empty set scheme is truly an embarrassment. -
“Here’s the thing,” UW’s sixth-year head coach said on Monday. “Guys, they put it on tape in practice, and people don’t understand … you’ve got to do it in practice; you can’t do it half the time or three-quarters of the time.
“Now, maybe do we need to rotate some more guys in there? Actually we’ve been trying to do that with certain personnel groups. But (those personnel groups) haven’t been getting called maybe as much as we thought they were. So we’ll take a better look at that and maybe rotate a few more guys in there.”
“They need to, one, be more detailed to what we’re doing out there,” Petersen said. “They’re making progress. They really are. They are practicing and they are getting a lot of reps out there. They just aren’t where the other guys are right now. But they are growing and they’re getting better all the time.
“You (reporters) don’t cover practice. You don’t see what’s going on out there. That’s no knock on those guys. They’re getting better. They’re young players. That’s what it is.”
“There’s no timetable. It’s when a guy picks it up,” Petersen said. “We’ve played freshmen out there: Dante Pettis, John Ross played as a true (freshman), all those types of things. As long as they can pick it up, they can play.
“When a guy is playing, you’d love to get him more involved. Puka (Nacua’s) playing and we’d like to get him more involved just being out there on the field. We do pay attention to that. But that’s not the issue. That wasn’t the issue on Saturday. The guys that we were going to, we need to be more detailed there. Those guys are our most detailed guys right now.”
“Obviously we’re looking to give those guys an opportunity,” offensive coordinator Bush Hamdan said of the young receivers. “We need some guys to step up and make plays on the outside. The evaluation process is not just a one-week thing during the year. This is going back to spring ball through fall camp through the season.
“As you guys know, the best players will play. This is big-time ball. So whoever those guys end up being, they’ll be playing on Saturday.”
“We want to go up and snatch the football,” Adams said of his players’ mentality this week. “We want to study the crosshairs. We want to get off the ground. We want to rotate our shoulders. We want to make a triangle with our hands and we want to snatch the football.
“We emphasize being a frisbee-snatching dog. When the ball’s in the air, it’s ours. That’s what we preach. We say that every day.”
“I think some of the young guys are progressing as the season has gone on,” Adams said. “I think Spiker’s progressing. I think Terrell Bynum, his snap count has gone up. Puka’s snap count has gone up. We’re just going to keep getting better each week, and these guys’ roles are going to keep increasing with the way they practice.”
He mentions playing Pettis and Ross as freshman, showing he’s not against playing freshman. What it says is he truly believes that the young kids on this roster haven’t picked up the playbook, not that they aren’t talented enough.
Which again proves your fucking offense sucks and you need to change your system so freshman can pick it up. WR is supposed to be the position young kids can play right away at. -
How hard is it to script two different routes? Puka, all you're going to do is a fade and post, got that. Osborne can you handle a 5 and out or a quick slant? Ok, those are yours this season.DoogCourics said:“Here’s the thing,” UW’s sixth-year head coach said on Monday. “Guys, they put it on tape in practice, and people don’t understand … you’ve got to do it in practice; you can’t do it half the time or three-quarters of the time.
“Now, maybe do we need to rotate some more guys in there? Actually we’ve been trying to do that with certain personnel groups. But (those personnel groups) haven’t been getting called maybe as much as we thought they were. So we’ll take a better look at that and maybe rotate a few more guys in there.”
“They need to, one, be more detailed to what we’re doing out there,” Petersen said. “They’re making progress. They really are. They are practicing and they are getting a lot of reps out there. They just aren’t where the other guys are right now. But they are growing and they’re getting better all the time.
“You (reporters) don’t cover practice. You don’t see what’s going on out there. That’s no knock on those guys. They’re getting better. They’re young players. That’s what it is.”
“There’s no timetable. It’s when a guy picks it up,” Petersen said. “We’ve played freshmen out there: Dante Pettis, John Ross played as a true (freshman), all those types of things. As long as they can pick it up, they can play.
“When a guy is playing, you’d love to get him more involved. Puka (Nacua’s) playing and we’d like to get him more involved just being out there on the field. We do pay attention to that. But that’s not the issue. That wasn’t the issue on Saturday. The guys that we were going to, we need to be more detailed there. Those guys are our most detailed guys right now.”
“Obviously we’re looking to give those guys an opportunity,” offensive coordinator Bush Hamdan said of the young receivers. “We need some guys to step up and make plays on the outside. The evaluation process is not just a one-week thing during the year. This is going back to spring ball through fall camp through the season.
“As you guys know, the best players will play. This is big-time ball. So whoever those guys end up being, they’ll be playing on Saturday.”
“We want to go up and snatch the football,” Adams said of his players’ mentality this week. “We want to study the crosshairs. We want to get off the ground. We want to rotate our shoulders. We want to make a triangle with our hands and we want to snatch the football.
“We emphasize being a frisbee-snatching dog. When the ball’s in the air, it’s ours. That’s what we preach. We say that every day.”
“I think some of the young guys are progressing as the season has gone on,” Adams said. “I think Spiker’s progressing. I think Terrell Bynum, his snap count has gone up. Puka’s snap count has gone up. We’re just going to keep getting better each week, and these guys’ roles are going to keep increasing with the way they practice.”
He mentions playing Pettis and Ross as freshman, showing he’s not against playing freshman. What it says is he truly believes that the young kids on this roster haven’t picked up the playbook, not that they aren’t talented enough.
Which again proves your fucking offense sucks and you need to change your system so freshman can pick it up. WR is supposed to be the position young kids can play right away at.
Nobody gets open, nobody catches, nobody blocks, nobody makes anyone miss.
The backups can't be worse if they tried. -
Our coaches are so corny...DoogCourics said:
“We want to go up and snatch the football,” Adams said of his players’ mentality this week. “We want to study the crosshairs. We want to get off the ground. We want to rotate our shoulders. We want to make a triangle with our hands and we want to snatch the football.
“We emphasize being a frisbee-snatching dog. When the ball’s in the air, it’s ours. That’s what we preach. We say that every day.”
I bet Puka's got some regrets...
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no wonder the offense sucks
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Sounds like a bunch of fucking bullshit.DoogCourics said:“Here’s the thing,” UW’s sixth-year head coach said on Monday. “Guys, they put it on tape in practice, and people don’t understand … you’ve got to do it in practice; you can’t do it half the time or three-quarters of the time.
“Now, maybe do we need to rotate some more guys in there? Actually we’ve been trying to do that with certain personnel groups. But (those personnel groups) haven’t been getting called maybe as much as we thought they were. So we’ll take a better look at that and maybe rotate a few more guys in there.”
“They need to, one, be more detailed to what we’re doing out there,” Petersen said. “They’re making progress. They really are. They are practicing and they are getting a lot of reps out there. They just aren’t where the other guys are right now. But they are growing and they’re getting better all the time.
“You (reporters) don’t cover practice. You don’t see what’s going on out there. That’s no knock on those guys. They’re getting better. They’re young players. That’s what it is.”
“There’s no timetable. It’s when a guy picks it up,” Petersen said. “We’ve played freshmen out there: Dante Pettis, John Ross played as a true (freshman), all those types of things. As long as they can pick it up, they can play.
“When a guy is playing, you’d love to get him more involved. Puka (Nacua’s) playing and we’d like to get him more involved just being out there on the field. We do pay attention to that. But that’s not the issue. That wasn’t the issue on Saturday. The guys that we were going to, we need to be more detailed there. Those guys are our most detailed guys right now.”
“Obviously we’re looking to give those guys an opportunity,” offensive coordinator Bush Hamdan said of the young receivers. “We need some guys to step up and make plays on the outside. The evaluation process is not just a one-week thing during the year. This is going back to spring ball through fall camp through the season.
“As you guys know, the best players will play. This is big-time ball. So whoever those guys end up being, they’ll be playing on Saturday.”
“We want to go up and snatch the football,” Adams said of his players’ mentality this week. “We want to study the crosshairs. We want to get off the ground. We want to rotate our shoulders. We want to make a triangle with our hands and we want to snatch the football.
“We emphasize being a frisbee-snatching dog. When the ball’s in the air, it’s ours. That’s what we preach. We say that every day.”
“I think some of the young guys are progressing as the season has gone on,” Adams said. “I think Spiker’s progressing. I think Terrell Bynum, his snap count has gone up. Puka’s snap count has gone up. We’re just going to keep getting better each week, and these guys’ roles are going to keep increasing with the way they practice.”
He mentions playing Pettis and Ross as freshman, showing he’s not against playing freshman. What it says is he truly believes that the young kids on this roster haven’t picked up the playbook, not that they aren’t talented enough.
Which again proves your fucking offense sucks and you need to change your system so freshman can pick it up. WR is supposed to be the position young kids can play right away at.
What he doesn't really address is the inequity of such a process. Especially in today's talent meta.
The kids see it.
Now that the talent is far greater than what he's accustomed to at Boise he's got to adjust accordingly.
If he can hold all these very talented kids in thrall with this built for life stuff then great.
Given that he's shown weaknesses in gameplanning and gameday adjustments that's still very concerting.
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You play stars all the time. While I know Fuller is our best WR, he’s not a star. Baccellia is a mediocre at best WR and it’s baffling he has a stranglehold on one of the WR spots. Nobody outside of Fuller and Baccellia has even got a chance to show if they can do anything.
Get the younger guys some reps in games. We rotate a lot on defense, why not on offense? The might even become more “detailed” and practice better if they felt involved.
I don’t know, it all seems strange. At this point it feels like Pete is doubling down. You know he hates being questioned by dumbass fans and the media, but it comes with the territory.
Another part of me feels like the back up WR’s aren’t any good and that’s why they don’t play. We make fun of Pete and how much he loves practice, but they really do see these players every day. I have a hard time believing a good player would be kept off the field.
Pete deserves to be questioned. He’s talked a lot about improving the offense, but it hasn’t improved. The WR’s have not played well for the third year in a row.
