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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,139 Founders Club
    Bush 1 encouraged the Kurds and Irqaui people to revolt after Gulf War 1 and watched them get bombed and gassed. That's the Colin Powell Bushie wing you libtards now worship because they hate Trump for not going along with their bullshit wars

    The Kurds have no country. I'm pretty sure if Trump took up arms against a NATO ally there would be real hell to pay

    You folks have never given a shit about any of those folks over there so let's not pretend we do know. Thanks
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,139 Founders Club
    ramenduck said:

    Bendintheriver said:

    HHusky said:

    Turkey reportedly preparing to cross the border at any moment. I’m sure the TugCons will defend Daddy no matter what happens. Betraying or abandoning allies is shameful.

    You talk about something you have no clue about. We are in the mess because BO was sucking Iran and Russia's dicks. Two wonderful countries with wonderful leaders right? Yes, BO was afraid to cozy up to anyone who was anti-assad because if he did it would upset Russia and Iran. So he got the YPG to do the dirty work against ISIS. They did what they were supposed to do, we supported them with all of our weapons and airforce, it is time to leave. Period. Trump really has very little choice. We can't continue to go down this road and work with a group YPG who is approved by the Iranians and Russians if we want to re-balance our foreign policy.

    Thanks a lot BO and Susan Rice, you not only fucked this thing up by sucking Iranian and Russian dick, you put our country in an unsustainable situation and then we get to hear from ignorant idiots like HH and the hondo bro's who are against war except when they can make cheap political points off of being a make believe Patton.
    Who had the Obama/Susan Rice parlay in the Atlduck pool?

    History started in 2016 post of the day
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,139 Founders Club
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,133 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    Except for joobs. I can’t trust anyone who is against joobs.
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    RaceBannon said:

    Bush 1 encouraged the Kurds and Irqaui people to revolt after Gulf War 1 and watched them get bombed and gassed. That's the Colin Powell Bushie wing you libtards now worship because they hate Trump for not going along with their bullshit wars

    The Kurds have no country. I'm pretty sure if Trump took up arms against a NATO ally there would be real hell to pay

    You folks have never given a shit about any of those folks over there so let's not pretend we do know. Thanks

    Get a country then pop off? If only there was an example of the world not caring what happens to stateless people leading to dire consequences. Godwin covers the spread again!
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    GDS said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Bush 1 encouraged the Kurds and Irqaui people to revolt after Gulf War 1 and watched them get bombed and gassed. That's the Colin Powell Bushie wing you libtards now worship because they hate Trump for not going along with their bullshit wars

    The Kurds have no country. I'm pretty sure if Trump took up arms against a NATO ally there would be real hell to pay

    You folks have never given a shit about any of those folks over there so let's not pretend we do know. Thanks

    Get a country then pop off? If only there was an example of the world not caring what happens to stateless people leading to dire consequences. Godwin covers the spread again!
    You should start a go fund me.


    Do something.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,977
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Agreeing with essentially all our military advisors that keeping a small contingent in Northern Syria to help the Kurds and ensure the 11k ISIS fighters captured and detained remain detained is now considered “pro-war”? FS

    We could execute all of them. Problem solved.
    The people we're abandoning hold the prisoners. We don't.
    I guess they figure out what to do with them then. Maybe Turkish bombs will settle that.
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    We'll see how it plays out. I'm not for abandoning allies. Problem here is they're both allies. Seems Trump's told Turkey there will be consequences if the they jump in. So we're to stay forever? The anti-war crowd is now pro war because they're anti Trump? TDS is very real.

    Right. Daddy will destroy the Turkish economy on twitter.

    We're there. People can argue about whether we should have been there, but that's the fact. As Colin Powell said to W about our military adventures, "You break it, you bought it."
    And Simone has to yet us out. Short of executing 60k Isis trash there isn't much we can do. They'll be let go eventually and will go back to raping and pillaging. That's why they make drones.
    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know how you gals would be howling if a Democrat had ever done anything this reckless.
    Welp. It was the toothless recklessness that got us in there in the first place, so there’s that.

    And it would only take a WaPo or NYT article on how the poor ISIS were being abused in captivity for your team to demand release of them anyway.

    But Trumps the bad guy. Not the country invading.
    You're not really conversant in the facts of this situation, obviously.
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    The status quo wasn’t getting civilians bombarded by a modern military.

    Poor Turkey. Now Daddy, in his infinite wisdom, is going to destroy their economy.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Agreeing with essentially all our military advisors that keeping a small contingent in Northern Syria to help the Kurds and ensure the 11k ISIS fighters captured and detained remain detained is now considered “pro-war”? FS

    We could execute all of them. Problem solved.
    The people we're abandoning hold the prisoners. We don't.
    I guess they figure out what to do with them then. Maybe Turkish bombs will settle that.
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    We'll see how it plays out. I'm not for abandoning allies. Problem here is they're both allies. Seems Trump's told Turkey there will be consequences if the they jump in. So we're to stay forever? The anti-war crowd is now pro war because they're anti Trump? TDS is very real.

    Right. Daddy will destroy the Turkish economy on twitter.

    We're there. People can argue about whether we should have been there, but that's the fact. As Colin Powell said to W about our military adventures, "You break it, you bought it."
    And Simone has to yet us out. Short of executing 60k Isis trash there isn't much we can do. They'll be let go eventually and will go back to raping and pillaging. That's why they make drones.
    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know how you gals would be howling if a Democrat had ever done anything this reckless.
    Welp. It was the toothless recklessness that got us in there in the first place, so there’s that.

    And it would only take a WaPo or NYT article on how the poor ISIS were being abused in captivity for your team to demand release of them anyway.

    But Trumps the bad guy. Not the country invading.
    You're not really conversant in the facts of this situation, obviously.
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    The status quo wasn’t getting civilians bombarded by a modern military.

    Poor Turkey. Now Daddy, in his infinite wisdom, is going to destroy their economy.
    Wtf is the status quo in the Middle East? Pre Trump? Pre US intervention?

    I don’t know how anyone could even pretend to know what the status quo in the Middle East looks like, other than war and bloodshed.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,139 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Agreeing with essentially all our military advisors that keeping a small contingent in Northern Syria to help the Kurds and ensure the 11k ISIS fighters captured and detained remain detained is now considered “pro-war”? FS

    We could execute all of them. Problem solved.
    The people we're abandoning hold the prisoners. We don't.
    I guess they figure out what to do with them then. Maybe Turkish bombs will settle that.
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    We'll see how it plays out. I'm not for abandoning allies. Problem here is they're both allies. Seems Trump's told Turkey there will be consequences if the they jump in. So we're to stay forever? The anti-war crowd is now pro war because they're anti Trump? TDS is very real.

    Right. Daddy will destroy the Turkish economy on twitter.

    We're there. People can argue about whether we should have been there, but that's the fact. As Colin Powell said to W about our military adventures, "You break it, you bought it."
    And Simone has to yet us out. Short of executing 60k Isis trash there isn't much we can do. They'll be let go eventually and will go back to raping and pillaging. That's why they make drones.
    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know how you gals would be howling if a Democrat had ever done anything this reckless.
    Welp. It was the toothless recklessness that got us in there in the first place, so there’s that.

    And it would only take a WaPo or NYT article on how the poor ISIS were being abused in captivity for your team to demand release of them anyway.

    But Trumps the bad guy. Not the country invading.
    You're not really conversant in the facts of this situation, obviously.
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    The status quo wasn’t getting civilians bombarded by a modern military.

    Poor Turkey. Now Daddy, in his infinite wisdom, is going to destroy their economy.
    Tell that to Northern Iraq
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dnc said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Agreeing with essentially all our military advisors that keeping a small contingent in Northern Syria to help the Kurds and ensure the 11k ISIS fighters captured and detained remain detained is now considered “pro-war”? FS

    We could execute all of them. Problem solved.
    The people we're abandoning hold the prisoners. We don't.
    I guess they figure out what to do with them then. Maybe Turkish bombs will settle that.
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    We'll see how it plays out. I'm not for abandoning allies. Problem here is they're both allies. Seems Trump's told Turkey there will be consequences if the they jump in. So we're to stay forever? The anti-war crowd is now pro war because they're anti Trump? TDS is very real.

    Right. Daddy will destroy the Turkish economy on twitter.

    We're there. People can argue about whether we should have been there, but that's the fact. As Colin Powell said to W about our military adventures, "You break it, you bought it."
    And Simone has to yet us out. Short of executing 60k Isis trash there isn't much we can do. They'll be let go eventually and will go back to raping and pillaging. That's why they make drones.
    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know how you gals would be howling if a Democrat had ever done anything this reckless.
    Welp. It was the toothless recklessness that got us in there in the first place, so there’s that.

    And it would only take a WaPo or NYT article on how the poor ISIS were being abused in captivity for your team to demand release of them anyway.

    But Trumps the bad guy. Not the country invading.
    You're not really conversant in the facts of this situation, obviously.
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    The status quo wasn’t getting civilians bombarded by a modern military.

    Poor Turkey. Now Daddy, in his infinite wisdom, is going to destroy their economy.
    Wtf is the status quo in the Middle East? Pre Trump? Pre US intervention?

    I don’t know how anyone could even pretend to know what the status quo in the Middle East looks like, other than war and bloodshed.
    He’s a Union lawyer, He knows all.
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    edited October 2019
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Agreeing with essentially all our military advisors that keeping a small contingent in Northern Syria to help the Kurds and ensure the 11k ISIS fighters captured and detained remain detained is now considered “pro-war”? FS

    We could execute all of them. Problem solved.
    The people we're abandoning hold the prisoners. We don't.
    I guess they figure out what to do with them then. Maybe Turkish bombs will settle that.
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    We'll see how it plays out. I'm not for abandoning allies. Problem here is they're both allies. Seems Trump's told Turkey there will be consequences if the they jump in. So we're to stay forever? The anti-war crowd is now pro war because they're anti Trump? TDS is very real.

    Right. Daddy will destroy the Turkish economy on twitter.

    We're there. People can argue about whether we should have been there, but that's the fact. As Colin Powell said to W about our military adventures, "You break it, you bought it."
    And Simone has to yet us out. Short of executing 60k Isis trash there isn't much we can do. They'll be let go eventually and will go back to raping and pillaging. That's why they make drones.
    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know how you gals would be howling if a Democrat had ever done anything this reckless.
    Welp. It was the toothless recklessness that got us in there in the first place, so there’s that.

    And it would only take a WaPo or NYT article on how the poor ISIS were being abused in captivity for your team to demand release of them anyway.

    But Trumps the bad guy. Not the country invading.
    You're not really conversant in the facts of this situation, obviously.
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    The status quo wasn’t getting civilians bombarded by a modern military.

    Poor Turkey. Now Daddy, in his infinite wisdom, is going to destroy their economy.
    Great and unmatched. Cmon we need to stay on Dear Leaders talking points.

    Dear Leader played 18 holes yesterday and somehow carded 19 hole in ones!
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,875 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Agreeing with essentially all our military advisors that keeping a small contingent in Northern Syria to help the Kurds and ensure the 11k ISIS fighters captured and detained remain detained is now considered “pro-war”? FS

    We could execute all of them. Problem solved.
    The people we're abandoning hold the prisoners. We don't.
    I guess they figure out what to do with them then. Maybe Turkish bombs will settle that.
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    We'll see how it plays out. I'm not for abandoning allies. Problem here is they're both allies. Seems Trump's told Turkey there will be consequences if the they jump in. So we're to stay forever? The anti-war crowd is now pro war because they're anti Trump? TDS is very real.

    Right. Daddy will destroy the Turkish economy on twitter.

    We're there. People can argue about whether we should have been there, but that's the fact. As Colin Powell said to W about our military adventures, "You break it, you bought it."
    And Simone has to yet us out. Short of executing 60k Isis trash there isn't much we can do. They'll be let go eventually and will go back to raping and pillaging. That's why they make drones.
    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know how you gals would be howling if a Democrat had ever done anything this reckless.
    Welp. It was the toothless recklessness that got us in there in the first place, so there’s that.

    And it would only take a WaPo or NYT article on how the poor ISIS were being abused in captivity for your team to demand release of them anyway.

    But Trumps the bad guy. Not the country invading.
    You're not really conversant in the facts of this situation, obviously.
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    The status quo wasn’t getting civilians bombarded by a modern military.

    Poor Turkey. Now Daddy, in his infinite wisdom, is going to destroy their economy.
    Wtf is the status quo in the Middle East? Pre Trump? Pre US intervention?

    I don’t know how anyone could even pretend to know what the status quo in the Middle East looks like, other than war and bloodshed.
    Been that way forever and worse since mooselimbdom.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Agreeing with essentially all our military advisors that keeping a small contingent in Northern Syria to help the Kurds and ensure the 11k ISIS fighters captured and detained remain detained is now considered “pro-war”? FS

    We could execute all of them. Problem solved.
    The people we're abandoning hold the prisoners. We don't.
    I guess they figure out what to do with them then. Maybe Turkish bombs will settle that.
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    We'll see how it plays out. I'm not for abandoning allies. Problem here is they're both allies. Seems Trump's told Turkey there will be consequences if the they jump in. So we're to stay forever? The anti-war crowd is now pro war because they're anti Trump? TDS is very real.

    Right. Daddy will destroy the Turkish economy on twitter.

    We're there. People can argue about whether we should have been there, but that's the fact. As Colin Powell said to W about our military adventures, "You break it, you bought it."
    And Simone has to yet us out. Short of executing 60k Isis trash there isn't much we can do. They'll be let go eventually and will go back to raping and pillaging. That's why they make drones.
    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know how you gals would be howling if a Democrat had ever done anything this reckless.
    Welp. It was the toothless recklessness that got us in there in the first place, so there’s that.

    And it would only take a WaPo or NYT article on how the poor ISIS were being abused in captivity for your team to demand release of them anyway.

    But Trumps the bad guy. Not the country invading.
    You're not really conversant in the facts of this situation, obviously.
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    The status quo wasn’t getting civilians bombarded by a modern military.

    Poor Turkey. Now Daddy, in his infinite wisdom, is going to destroy their economy.
    Wtf is the status quo in the Middle East? Pre Trump? Pre US intervention?

    I don’t know how anyone could even pretend to know what the status quo in the Middle East looks like, other than war and bloodshed.
    Been that way forever and worse since mooselimbdom.
    I’m not sure it’s actually any worse under Islam.

    It’s been jacked forever, probably will be jacked forever.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,133 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:

    dnc said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Agreeing with essentially all our military advisors that keeping a small contingent in Northern Syria to help the Kurds and ensure the 11k ISIS fighters captured and detained remain detained is now considered “pro-war”? FS

    We could execute all of them. Problem solved.
    The people we're abandoning hold the prisoners. We don't.
    I guess they figure out what to do with them then. Maybe Turkish bombs will settle that.
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    We'll see how it plays out. I'm not for abandoning allies. Problem here is they're both allies. Seems Trump's told Turkey there will be consequences if the they jump in. So we're to stay forever? The anti-war crowd is now pro war because they're anti Trump? TDS is very real.

    Right. Daddy will destroy the Turkish economy on twitter.

    We're there. People can argue about whether we should have been there, but that's the fact. As Colin Powell said to W about our military adventures, "You break it, you bought it."
    And Simone has to yet us out. Short of executing 60k Isis trash there isn't much we can do. They'll be let go eventually and will go back to raping and pillaging. That's why they make drones.
    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know how you gals would be howling if a Democrat had ever done anything this reckless.
    Welp. It was the toothless recklessness that got us in there in the first place, so there’s that.

    And it would only take a WaPo or NYT article on how the poor ISIS were being abused in captivity for your team to demand release of them anyway.

    But Trumps the bad guy. Not the country invading.
    You're not really conversant in the facts of this situation, obviously.
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    The status quo wasn’t getting civilians bombarded by a modern military.

    Poor Turkey. Now Daddy, in his infinite wisdom, is going to destroy their economy.
    Wtf is the status quo in the Middle East? Pre Trump? Pre US intervention?

    I don’t know how anyone could even pretend to know what the status quo in the Middle East looks like, other than war and bloodshed.
    He’s a Union lawyer, He knows all.
    Oh fuck. This explains so much.

    Acceptance of corruption, elitism within the ranks, no regard for economic realities.

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,139 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Agreeing with essentially all our military advisors that keeping a small contingent in Northern Syria to help the Kurds and ensure the 11k ISIS fighters captured and detained remain detained is now considered “pro-war”? FS

    We could execute all of them. Problem solved.
    The people we're abandoning hold the prisoners. We don't.
    I guess they figure out what to do with them then. Maybe Turkish bombs will settle that.
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    We'll see how it plays out. I'm not for abandoning allies. Problem here is they're both allies. Seems Trump's told Turkey there will be consequences if the they jump in. So we're to stay forever? The anti-war crowd is now pro war because they're anti Trump? TDS is very real.

    Right. Daddy will destroy the Turkish economy on twitter.

    We're there. People can argue about whether we should have been there, but that's the fact. As Colin Powell said to W about our military adventures, "You break it, you bought it."
    And Simone has to yet us out. Short of executing 60k Isis trash there isn't much we can do. They'll be let go eventually and will go back to raping and pillaging. That's why they make drones.
    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know how you gals would be howling if a Democrat had ever done anything this reckless.
    Welp. It was the toothless recklessness that got us in there in the first place, so there’s that.

    And it would only take a WaPo or NYT article on how the poor ISIS were being abused in captivity for your team to demand release of them anyway.

    But Trumps the bad guy. Not the country invading.
    You're not really conversant in the facts of this situation, obviously.
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    The status quo wasn’t getting civilians bombarded by a modern military.

    Poor Turkey. Now Daddy, in his infinite wisdom, is going to destroy their economy.
    Wtf is the status quo in the Middle East? Pre Trump? Pre US intervention?

    I don’t know how anyone could even pretend to know what the status quo in the Middle East looks like, other than war and bloodshed.
    Been that way forever and worse since mooselimbdom.
    I’m not sure it’s actually any worse under Islam.

    It’s been jacked forever, probably will be jacked forever.
    As one who thought it was a neat idea to make the Middle East safe for democracy I eventually came to the same conclusion

    Leaving our troops as targets is a stupid plan that the left used to agree with me on

    I took a tremendous amount of shit for backing the endless wars.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,133 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Agreeing with essentially all our military advisors that keeping a small contingent in Northern Syria to help the Kurds and ensure the 11k ISIS fighters captured and detained remain detained is now considered “pro-war”? FS

    We could execute all of them. Problem solved.
    The people we're abandoning hold the prisoners. We don't.
    I guess they figure out what to do with them then. Maybe Turkish bombs will settle that.
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    We'll see how it plays out. I'm not for abandoning allies. Problem here is they're both allies. Seems Trump's told Turkey there will be consequences if the they jump in. So we're to stay forever? The anti-war crowd is now pro war because they're anti Trump? TDS is very real.

    Right. Daddy will destroy the Turkish economy on twitter.

    We're there. People can argue about whether we should have been there, but that's the fact. As Colin Powell said to W about our military adventures, "You break it, you bought it."
    And Simone has to yet us out. Short of executing 60k Isis trash there isn't much we can do. They'll be let go eventually and will go back to raping and pillaging. That's why they make drones.
    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know how you gals would be howling if a Democrat had ever done anything this reckless.
    Welp. It was the toothless recklessness that got us in there in the first place, so there’s that.

    And it would only take a WaPo or NYT article on how the poor ISIS were being abused in captivity for your team to demand release of them anyway.

    But Trumps the bad guy. Not the country invading.
    You're not really conversant in the facts of this situation, obviously.
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    The status quo wasn’t getting civilians bombarded by a modern military.

    Poor Turkey. Now Daddy, in his infinite wisdom, is going to destroy their economy.
    Wtf is the status quo in the Middle East? Pre Trump? Pre US intervention?

    I don’t know how anyone could even pretend to know what the status quo in the Middle East looks like, other than war and bloodshed.
    Been that way forever and worse since mooselimbdom.
    I’m not sure it’s actually any worse under Islam.

    It’s been jacked forever, probably will be jacked forever.
    As one who thought it was a neat idea to make the Middle East safe for democracy I eventually came to the same conclusion

    Leaving our troops as targets is a stupid plan that the left used to agree with me on

    I took a tremendous amount of shit for backing the endless wars.
    Endless wars need to end.

    Our? defense spending is absurd. The country should have far better infrastructure and educational systems in place than we are currently (not) funding.
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  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    RaceBannon said:

    dnc said:

    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Agreeing with essentially all our military advisors that keeping a small contingent in Northern Syria to help the Kurds and ensure the 11k ISIS fighters captured and detained remain detained is now considered “pro-war”? FS

    We could execute all of them. Problem solved.
    The people we're abandoning hold the prisoners. We don't.
    I guess they figure out what to do with them then. Maybe Turkish bombs will settle that.
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    We'll see how it plays out. I'm not for abandoning allies. Problem here is they're both allies. Seems Trump's told Turkey there will be consequences if the they jump in. So we're to stay forever? The anti-war crowd is now pro war because they're anti Trump? TDS is very real.

    Right. Daddy will destroy the Turkish economy on twitter.

    We're there. People can argue about whether we should have been there, but that's the fact. As Colin Powell said to W about our military adventures, "You break it, you bought it."
    And Simone has to yet us out. Short of executing 60k Isis trash there isn't much we can do. They'll be let go eventually and will go back to raping and pillaging. That's why they make drones.
    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know how you gals would be howling if a Democrat had ever done anything this reckless.
    Welp. It was the toothless recklessness that got us in there in the first place, so there’s that.

    And it would only take a WaPo or NYT article on how the poor ISIS were being abused in captivity for your team to demand release of them anyway.

    But Trumps the bad guy. Not the country invading.
    You're not really conversant in the facts of this situation, obviously.
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    The status quo wasn’t getting civilians bombarded by a modern military.

    Poor Turkey. Now Daddy, in his infinite wisdom, is going to destroy their economy.
    Wtf is the status quo in the Middle East? Pre Trump? Pre US intervention?

    I don’t know how anyone could even pretend to know what the status quo in the Middle East looks like, other than war and bloodshed.
    Been that way forever and worse since mooselimbdom.
    I’m not sure it’s actually any worse under Islam.

    It’s been jacked forever, probably will be jacked forever.
    As one who thought it was a neat idea to make the Middle East safe for democracy I eventually came to the same conclusion

    Leaving our troops as targets is a stupid plan that the left used to agree with me on

    I took a tremendous amount of shit for backing the endless wars.
    Instead of being a dodgy prick just answer whether you think it’s good and smart to enable the slaughter of the Kurds by a fascistic country that flooded Syria with jihadis at the outset of the civil war and has a history of genocide. Is removing our handful of troops that were preventing this smart or not?

    I’m against our post 9/11 forever war and the ever expanding military industrial complex. But the Kurds are the good guys in the region who are fighting for secular democratic government and did the heavy lifting taking ISIS territory in Syria. Stationing a few hundred troops in Syria to prevent their slaughter by the Turkish army is a small price to pay.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,139 Founders Club
    Turkey is in NATO

    We've fucked the Kurds for decades

    I'd kick Turkey out
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    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

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    Sledog Member Posts: 37,875 Standard Supporter
    I think the better question is why is NATO allowing this to happen? What fucking good are they?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,139 Founders Club
    HardlyClothed said:


    See?
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  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    Trump’s actions in Syria are not anti-NATO or anti-DC militarism groupthink. Trump piggies really are dense.
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  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    RaceBannon said:

    HardlyClothed said:


    See?
    And yet you’re defending Trump and supporting the slaughter of the Kurds with voodoo logic that he’s somehow against the forever war.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,139 Founders Club
    HardlyClothed said:

    RaceBannon said:

    HardlyClothed said:


    See?
    And yet you’re defending Trump and supporting the slaughter of the Kurds with voodoo logic that he’s somehow against the forever war.
    You're selective outrage is selective

    Fuck off
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  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    You still haven’t answered whether you think Trump’s actions were correct. I won’t hold my breath.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,139 Founders Club
    HardlyClothed said:

    You still haven’t answered whether you think Trump’s actions were correct. I won’t hold my breath.

    I did too

    I support his actions

    Bring everyone home. We aren't there to win. No more human targets

    There are all sorts of people getting fucked in the mid east including those fucked by your precious Iranian Mullahs

    You don't give a shit
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    Is it good we’re fucking over the Kurds or not? Take a position. All you’ve offered is “we’ve fucked over the kurds for decades”. Does that make enabling their slaughter Ok? Yes or no.
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    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,139 Founders Club
    How many times do you want the same answer?

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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,977
    GDS said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    GDS said:

    Agreeing with essentially all our military advisors that keeping a small contingent in Northern Syria to help the Kurds and ensure the 11k ISIS fighters captured and detained remain detained is now considered “pro-war”? FS

    We could execute all of them. Problem solved.
    The people we're abandoning hold the prisoners. We don't.
    I guess they figure out what to do with them then. Maybe Turkish bombs will settle that.
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    We'll see how it plays out. I'm not for abandoning allies. Problem here is they're both allies. Seems Trump's told Turkey there will be consequences if the they jump in. So we're to stay forever? The anti-war crowd is now pro war because they're anti Trump? TDS is very real.

    Right. Daddy will destroy the Turkish economy on twitter.

    We're there. People can argue about whether we should have been there, but that's the fact. As Colin Powell said to W about our military adventures, "You break it, you bought it."
    And Simone has to yet us out. Short of executing 60k Isis trash there isn't much we can do. They'll be let go eventually and will go back to raping and pillaging. That's why they make drones.
    It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know how you gals would be howling if a Democrat had ever done anything this reckless.
    Welp. It was the toothless recklessness that got us in there in the first place, so there’s that.

    And it would only take a WaPo or NYT article on how the poor ISIS were being abused in captivity for your team to demand release of them anyway.

    But Trumps the bad guy. Not the country invading.
    You're not really conversant in the facts of this situation, obviously.
    dnc said:

    Trusting Turkey with the ISIS fighters seems foolish as hell. Their "ally" status is always day to day.

    That said, "Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East" is as true as anything any American politician has said in years.

    I don't love this move but I don't pretend to know what the best thing.

    Fuck the Middle East.

    The status quo wasn’t getting civilians bombarded by a modern military.

    Poor Turkey. Now Daddy, in his infinite wisdom, is going to destroy their economy.
    Great and unmatched. Cmon we need to stay on Dear Leaders talking points.

    Dear Leader played 18 holes yesterday and somehow carded 19 hole in ones!
    I gave him a promotion.
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