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How do you far right fringe dumbfucks rationalize withholding the whistleblower complaint?
ApostleofGrief
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Because it's fake. HTH
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We live in the post truth age, so you decide what is true, regardless of what is true?Sledog said:Because it's fake. HTH
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The law is a violation of executive privilege and was never intended to apply to the President, let it play out in the courts.
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Someone’s snatch is sour early this morning
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Because Obama, Hillary, Biden and Hunter Biden. That's why.
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Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
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Yeah, the story has nothing to do with Biden, how dare anyone bring it up.2001400ex said:Because Obama, Hillary, Biden and Hunter Biden. That's why.
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Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign. -
In your words. Who exactly can use executive privilege other than the president?SFGbob said:The law is a violation of executive privilege and was never intended to apply to the President, let it play out in the courts.
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A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign. -
There is no point in using logical reasoning with Trump supporters (they let his behavior go, just 'cuz). But I was curious how they justify it. There is of course no justification to withhold a whistleblower complaint to Congress, which is what Pelosi is basically saying.GDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign. -
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
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People see what they want to see. Its not exclusive to one side either.
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT -
The matter could be cleared up with the lawful release of the complaint.GDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT -
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld -
It's fun to pretend.GDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign. -
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld -
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld -
You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.SFGbob said:
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld -
I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?Gwad said:
You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.SFGbob said:
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld -
Because it will show urgent and credible misconduct of the executive.SFGbob said:
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld
No whistleblowerSFGbob said:
I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?Gwad said:
You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.SFGbob said:
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld -
What misconduct will it show? Detail it for me.ApostleofGrief said:
Because it will show urgent and credible misconduct of the executive.SFGbob said:
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld
No whistleblowerSFGbob said:
I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?Gwad said:
You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.SFGbob said:
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld -
Ridiculous comment. JFC.SFGbob said:
What misconduct will it show? Detail it for me.ApostleofGrief said:
Because it will show urgent and credible misconduct of the executive.SFGbob said:
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld
No whistleblowerSFGbob said:
I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?Gwad said:
You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.SFGbob said:
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld -
That's fucking ironic.ApostleofGrief said:
There is no point in using logical reasoning with Trump supporters (they let his behavior go, just 'cuz). But I was curious how they justify it. There is of course no justification to withhold a whistleblower complaint to Congress, which is what Pelosi is basically saying.GDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign. -
Can you understand the insanity of having a n entire class of morons make shit up about you for three years, and when it was all found to be untrue, they Trump-up another fictious allegation? Can you imagine?ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld -
Great non-answer as always.ApostleofGrief said:
Ridiculous comment. JFC.SFGbob said:
What misconduct will it show? Detail it for me.ApostleofGrief said:
Because it will show urgent and credible misconduct of the executive.SFGbob said:
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld
No whistleblowerSFGbob said:
I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?Gwad said:
You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.SFGbob said:
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld -
IT WAS ALL A LIE! Ukrainian Foreign Minister Denies Trump Put Pressure on President During July Call (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/it-was-all-a-lie-ukrainian-foreign-minister-denies-trump-put-pressure-on-president-during-july-call-video/ -
It’s pretty obvious you label it ridiculous in order to avoid answering an inconvenient question you have no logical answer for.😂ApostleofGrief said:
Ridiculous comment. JFC.SFGbob said:
What misconduct will it show? Detail it for me.ApostleofGrief said:
Because it will show urgent and credible misconduct of the executive.SFGbob said:
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld
No whistleblowerSFGbob said:
I don't have a script. I noticed you dodged the question. Is that part of your script? I'd like to know the details of everything Obama promised the Iranians. Can I see transcripts to those conversations?Gwad said:
You've lost touch with the script I think you need a long walk for perspective.SFGbob said:
Why is it insane for a President to believe that his private conversations with other foreign leaders remain private? Tyranny!!!!ApostleofGrief said:
You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?RaceBannon said:
I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on itGDS said:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531RaceBannon said:
He didn't withhold aidGDS said:
A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.SFGbob said:
Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?ApostleofGrief said:Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.
Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.
Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
No aid withheld
