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How do you far right fringe dumbfucks rationalize withholding the whistleblower complaint?

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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
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  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    There is no point in using logical reasoning with Trump supporters (they let his behavior go, just 'cuz). But I was curious how they justify it. There is of course no justification to withhold a whistleblower complaint to Congress, which is what Pelosi is basically saying.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,587 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
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  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    People see what they want to see. Its not exclusive to one side either.
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    RaceBannon said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
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  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    GDS said:

    RaceBannon said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    The matter could be cleared up with the lawful release of the complaint.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    It's fun to pretend.
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  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    RaceBannon said:

    GDS said:

    RaceBannon said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    ApostleofGrief said:

    Trump has two tricks he uses to justify tyranny. The first is the use of executive privilege when it doesn't apply. The second is to declare national emergencies. When he does this, there is no check on his powers, and that is what the founders feared. So you are endorsing a tyrant.

    Asking a foreign government to investigate possible corruption is tyranny?

    Go lay down before you’re overcome with a case of the vapors.

    Let me guess you had no problem with Obama using our intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign.
    A president who is withholding military aid from a country repeatedly pressuring said country to reopen a closed investigation on the family of his political rival for political purposes is the definition of abuse of power. Reportedly the complaint also deals with a promise being made which could be the second part of the quid pro quo. If this situation was reversed and the Ukrainian President was pushing Trump to investigate his rivals Ukraine would be shut down and people would be filling the streets until the corrupt presidential was removed.
    He didn't withhold aid
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531

    Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia
    By CAITLIN EMMA and CONNOR O’BRIEN
    08/28/2019 06:11 PM EDT
    I think I'll take the president of the Ukraine's word on it

    No aid withheld
    You understand the insanity of trump blocking a whistleblower complaint against himself?
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